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The Cockroach Cafe Mark 2 (general coping with oldies)

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yolofish · 09/01/2020 11:50

Morning all! regulars or newbies, coping with your oldies is a frustrating, exhausting and difficult business however much we love them. The Cockroach Cafe is open to all, a place to vent, rant, ask questions, get advice, and hopefully laugh too.

For newbies: why cockroach? My DM attended a 'small animal event' in a nursing home, and was presented with a "small animal with a hard back" the name of which species she couldn't remember. My ever helpful DB suggested cockroach, and it has become a toast on here. So cockroach mes amis/amies, and may you all live to fight another day.

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countrygirl99 · 28/05/2020 05:25

Fingers crossed for your dad Dint
FIL had another panic yesterday. He had a hemorrhage in his eye losing the sight in that eye at Easter. Nearly 2 weeks ago he told DH he was getting pains in the eye, DH encouraged him to speak to his GP or optician but he didn't, despite saying he would and said the pain had gone, but it hadn't. Early yesterday morning he was on the phone in tears as he couldn't sleep, convinced brain cancer was the only possible explanation, then MIL would have to go into a care home and would inevitably die of Covid within days. SIL went to sit with MIL and he went to A&E. It's uveitis. It's a good job he already can't see out of that eye because failing to get treatment could have badly damaged his sight. Naturally he didn't bother to call when he got home as the problem was solved so no need and wasn't answering the phone as he was fussing around MIL so it was mid afternoon when SIL got back home and phoned before we knew the result.

MereDintofPandiculation · 27/05/2020 09:46

Thanks, everyone, for you good wishes

Knotaknitter · 27/05/2020 09:33

Dint I'm thinking of you and hoping that everything works out well. I was thinking what I'd do in your situation, who would I tell? I really don't know. I think I'd go with the easy option and keep my mouth shut simply so that I didn't have the added work of managing everyone else's feelings, the phone calls for updates, everyone else's "what ifs". You have enough to worry about without adding to it. If there was anything they could do then that would be a reason to tell them.

MereDintofPandiculation · 27/05/2020 08:51

User73688823 There was something in the papers yesterday about one of the genes that predisposes to dementia possibly also predisposing to severe Covid. My dad is in his 98th year, with paranoid fantasies, but everyone agrees he does not have dementia and still has capacity for most decisions. So maybe the converse will work?

I remember DS2 saying about him, about 15 years ago "In the last 5 years he's had two heart attacks, pneumonia and has written off two cars - he's indestructible".

sandwich Good idea, I'll think about it. I don't like lying to relatives though. I suppose it's not lying, it's simply not broadcasting his medical details to all and sundry.

maddywest · 27/05/2020 08:49

Thinking of you and your dad Dint. I know it's anecdata, but my Mum contracted Covid in her care home and spent 3 weeks in hospital on oxygen, but is now out and seems to be recovering, slowly. She's 88 with some existing respiratory issues. It's still shit though, they're confined to their rooms because there are other cases of covid in the home, so she's losing her mobility and her mind at the same time. it's all so grim Sad

notaflyingmonkey · 27/05/2020 07:55

Fingers crossed Dint. It feels like there is so little that we know about this bloody virus.

I spent an hour reading up on it last night as I was feeling unwell (I think it was a combination of the high pollen added to my already high stress levels), and felt no further on in my understanding than when I started.

It scares me how fucking reckless so many people in this country are being about it though.

User73688823 · 26/05/2020 23:35

Fingers crossed ~Dint~.
Nobody seems to know yet why some people get really unwell and some not at all. Genes or environment (?? Exposure to something else earlier which somehow provides protection ???).

Rinsefirst · 26/05/2020 22:51

Dint I know of a 94, 93 , 87 and 86 who have all recovered after 14 days. Their only symptoms have been lethargy. Stay positive.

thesandwich · 26/05/2020 22:29

Thinking of you and your dfdint. Everything crossed. At least he is in familiar surroundings with people he knows.
The memorial thing sounds lovely- as far as telling people to prompt them to write, could you just say he is struggling with lockdown?
🌺🌺🌺

MereDintofPandiculation · 26/05/2020 22:11

Who can tell? he's at the high end of the 90s, so the probability of death is high, but I think still less than 50%, in other words what I have to remember is he has more chance of surviving than of dying. He's unlikely to be considered for ICU, as the reasoning will be that at that age and with comorbidities he won't survive, so we just have to hope he doesn't get that ill. For the time being he will stay in the nursing home, and I suppose we're very lucky he's in a nursing home not a care home.

He's confined to his room. Apparently coping well mentally and not too spooked out by everyone being in full PPE, visors etc. They're trying to work out how to persuade him to drink more - he's resisting drinking because he doesn't want to have to wee. He probably doesn't know his test result, and although knowing it might persuade him to drink, it might also worry him. So hard to know what to do.

He's 5 days in from the test, so probably the next week is critical in knowing just how badly he's likely to be affected.

DS1 is delivering some stuff to us on Thursday, so I shall tell him then, and prime his best friend because I'm very conscious that DS1 is living on his own. DS2 is closer to his grandfather but he has a partner.

Difficult to know what to do about telling people. Obvious thought is "if he hasn't got symptoms, then don't worry anyone". But on the other hand, if he doesn't develop symptoms and I have to tell people, it just gets too difficult to remember not to tell them when the test was and reveal that I've not told them things. Besides, it might spur them into writing letters, and he'd appreciate that.

Meanwhile, we had the chance to subscribe and get his name on a memorial that is important to him, and when I explained the circumstance, they queue-jumped us and emailed the certificate, so that's something nice we've been able to do for him.

Sorry about that brain dump! Apart from DH I haven't yet got anyone in real life to talk to (not talking to friends until I've told family).

notaflyingmonkey · 26/05/2020 17:27

What does that mean for him Dint?

thesandwich · 26/05/2020 12:30

dint I’m really sorry to hear that- I know you have been worried.
Everything crossed for him. He sounds like a fighter.
🌺🌺
cockroach to everyone.

MereDintofPandiculation · 26/05/2020 10:32

My Dad tested positive for Covid. Tested Friday, results yesterday. No symptoms apart from fatigue.

MereDintofPandiculation · 26/05/2020 10:31

I'm sorry to hear that, Lilac. I hope you find some way to stay.

notaflyingmonkey · 25/05/2020 22:34

Stay Lilac. This is a safe place.

thesandwich · 25/05/2020 20:47

lilac I’m sorry you are going! Reinvent and come back! I know you offer some v wise advice here. 🌺🌺

LilacTree11 · 25/05/2020 19:39

Hello everyone

I am a regular but have NC over the years

I remember Thigh, the Vortex of Doom etc

I hope you and yours are all okay

It might seem odd but I wanted to say bye and thank you. I have to deregister because on Friday night, someone started a thread to get me banned and though there’s great support here, I don’t feel safe staying on.

If anyone knows any other places to chat about elderly parents, I’d be grateful for recommendations

All the best

MereDintofPandiculation · 24/05/2020 11:57

because I have no idea what day it is Yes, I was thinking the other day they'll have to make changes to that dementia test!

Nice to see you all, Jace, sandwich, Knot, nota* and anyone else I've missed. It's been so quiet here recently! I guess everyone's gardening - the gardening board has been heaving.

I'm feeling smug about hair - It's 50 years since I've been to a hair dresser, so I'm not feeling the loss. There's an advantage to normally having your hair long and shapeless - no amount of neglect can make it look worse. I feel sorry for those with neat short cuts.

thesandwich · 23/05/2020 20:09

Good to see you nota and knota
‘Tis v quiet on here as I think we all soldier on with no idea what day it is.......
Understand completely about the importance of gardens. It has been a lifesaver.
Here dm too keeps moaning about her hair but no way am I trying to cut it.......

Knotaknitter · 23/05/2020 18:00

Mum has a revelation where she gets it that I'm staying away not because I think she's infectious but in case I am. Next time I see her we do it all over again. It's been nine weeks now and each time it's a fresh realisation. I do have more appreciation now for the importance of structure in your life because I have no idea what day it is - Alexa could tell me anything and I'd believe it.

My MIL looked at me, saw I'd had my hair cut and told me I should cut hers. How I am to do this while remaining six feet away I'm not quite sure but I'm not doing it because there's so much that I can do wrong and I'd never hear the end of it. I suggested she could stand in front of a mirror with scissors, like I did, or wait for the hairdresser to open again. I dare say I'm being bad mouthed to the family for my unreasonable behaviour in not giving her what she wants but I don't care. Not caring is remarkably freeing, I wish I'd reached this stage decades earlier.

notaflyingmonkey · 23/05/2020 17:26

I thought I would check in as the thread is no longer showing on my ''I'm on'' list.

Things relatively ok here. DM still doesn't have a clue what's going on in the world and why myself and DB 'refuse' to take her to get her hair cut. I've been going to see her 2 or 3 times a week to take her food, do a bit of cleaning/gardening etc, but trying to stay 2 metres away from her. I went to see her on Wednesday when it was v hot and she still had her central heating on. Poor thing was sat in her underwear, melting.

I've been working from home for two months now, and am trying to keep on top of my own mental health by going for a walk or doing a spot of gardening each day. I don't always manage it, but I am grateful for a garden to sit in if nothing else.

Hope everyone is ok, cockroach all.

VictoriaBun · 21/05/2020 13:24

Is there anything she would enjoy doing ?
If she has a garden could you take round a few bedding plants that she would enjoy planting ? Or even a couple of pot plants to look after ( although obviously you could end up watering etc )
Or if her dementia is quite advanced a doll to care for ?

JaceLancs · 21/05/2020 11:06

Not been on here for a while
DM dementia getting worse - she is coping ok with lockdown but lack of social contact other than family doing shopping and phonecalls is just upsetting her
I can’t do anything about lack of routine but that’s what she needs - at least pre COVID she had church and coffee mornings regularly

MereDintofPandiculation · 03/05/2020 10:38

although getting twitchy at the thought that the over 70s may never be allowed out again. Not surprised, I'm getting twitchy about that, and I'm not quite 70 yet.

yoloPenguinsEatfish · 02/05/2020 21:53

True, and I'd have to take the post upstairs to our bedroom where the iron/board lives and then it could have shed germs everywhere? I'm not quite sure how PIL logistics work, but anyway they are ok although getting twitchy at the thought that the over 70s may never be allowed out agan.

Horrible times for oldies and those coping with them.