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The Cockroach Cafe Mark 2 (general coping with oldies)

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yolofish · 09/01/2020 11:50

Morning all! regulars or newbies, coping with your oldies is a frustrating, exhausting and difficult business however much we love them. The Cockroach Cafe is open to all, a place to vent, rant, ask questions, get advice, and hopefully laugh too.

For newbies: why cockroach? My DM attended a 'small animal event' in a nursing home, and was presented with a "small animal with a hard back" the name of which species she couldn't remember. My ever helpful DB suggested cockroach, and it has become a toast on here. So cockroach mes amis/amies, and may you all live to fight another day.

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AutumnRose1 · 16/02/2020 16:58

I've just been having a quick chat with mum, I'm going there tomorrow.

she is feeling better physically. I don't know if she genuinely can't remember stuff or is just being uncertain of what she wants, but once again it has come up that she wants to go somewhere on the Tube, I am not prepared to take her, she has plenty of money for a cab....gah.

More moans about the usual shit. Welcome to adulthood at 81, mother.

I might have to be ill for next week's visit.

yolofish · 16/02/2020 16:42

parsley nota dint autumn and anyone else I have missed... I can hear your screams from here!

The frustration, the fact that DB was a 'saint' for doing stuff I did for 3 days at a time when I did it the rest of the time... OMG I FEEL you xxx

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AutumnRose1 · 16/02/2020 14:50

hairbrush yes, it's funny how things work on this thread!

how are you?

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 16/02/2020 14:00

A couple of days ago I was going to stop reading the posts in this section. Now I have read @Parsley65's story and feel like running out and embracing my mum for the sheer joy of knowing she is in the granny annex and not 20 miles away.

AutumnRose1 · 16/02/2020 10:57

nota how do you not scream at that kind of thing?

MereDintofPandiculation · 16/02/2020 09:56

Well done yolo!

MereDintofPandiculation · 16/02/2020 09:56

Parsley I notice with my dad the obvious solution doesn't seem to occur. To a man of his age, like it or not, the obvious solution from back in the days when he was growing up was that a woman of the house would do it. And when you're very old, even though you don't have dementia, your early life looms more important and things you've learned in later life recede into the background.

My dad was having trouble because the cloth bag he was using for his shopping dragged on the floor. I said "why don't you tie a knot in the handles to shorten them? "Oh, that's clever, I never thought of that!" This was a man who was at the cutting edge of research in his field when he was working.

The learning point for me is not to assume the obvious solutions have been tried and found wanting. It's too easy to assume that the obvious steps have been taken and start to thinking about more complex solutions. Make sure you've suggested the obvious and simple solutions first.

notaflyingmonkey · 16/02/2020 09:02

I feel your pain Parsley. My DM doesn't like it when DB and I split the responsibility for things like taking her to medical appointments as 'he works'. (I also work, full time, commute and have two kids).

She is currently angling for me to take her to get her hair cut as she doesn't like having someone coming to the house to do it. DB visits on a Saturday, but she won't ask him to take her.

thesandwich · 15/02/2020 21:50

Omg........

AutumnRose1 · 15/02/2020 21:40

Parsley
I don’t have enough 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 for that.

Parsley65 · 15/02/2020 21:37

I just had a phone call from my Father aged 92. He doesn't have dementia.

He had taken a bowl out of the microwave and it was hot and he'd dropped it.
He asked if I could go over in the morning to clean it up.

I said "but my brother is coming over to see you in the morning. He can do it"

My Df said "Can he?"

Me: "Yes, of course. Why not?"

Df: "I didn't think of that!"

Just for reference my brother lives two miles away from him and is a bachelor. I live 20 miles away and have two children.

I'm tearing out my hair... Hmm

AutumnRose1 · 15/02/2020 18:56

yolo have you spoken to your local MP? Might be worth sending them a copy. And head of local health authority maybe.

Well done on fighting for this. Flowers

yolofish · 15/02/2020 18:48

Just spoke to DB sandwich. Need to photocopy the letter and send it to him on Mon and then we'll decide what to do. He wants to know the process/reviews of what they are saying they will put in place - which is a fair point.

Closure, not really. She was treated very badly, it was like a perfect storm of poor care.

So I think we'll stick with it a bit in order to try and make sure it doesnt happen again - ha, of course it will happen again.

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thesandwich · 15/02/2020 18:24

yolo I’m so glad you have had a response from the hospital which acknowledges some of their mistakes and it sounds as if it could make a difference to others.
Well done for fighting for your dm. Will that give you some degree of closure?

yolofish · 15/02/2020 17:55

Six page letter from the hospital.

A lot of we are so sorry - and they misspelt mum's first name which is annoying.

OTH there is some good stuff; they are going to use her case in teaching, in order to encourage more joined up thinking across departments. They have changed some ward routines to establish things like ensuring elderly patients are helped to eat, and once weekly weighing. They have also set up something called zonal nursing where there is a nurse on every bay and h/she cannot leave unless there is some available to step in.

So on the whole I think it is the best result we could have expected; they have acknowledged serious failings and outlined actions to reduce them in future.

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MereDintofPandiculation · 15/02/2020 10:53

hairbrush Don't feel you have to help others on here - there's lots of us around, someone will be able to help, it doesn't have to be you. Be focussed on the threads that will help you, and try not to even read ones that may bring back memories. Or just duck out completely, and only come back when you want specific advice or a rant.

MereDintofPandiculation · 15/02/2020 10:47

Autumn reading further down your post, it looks like you've got a good neighbour there, and my fears are unfounded.

MereDintofPandiculation · 15/02/2020 10:45

Autumn Yes, of course Mum thinks the neighbour isn't doing enough, that's taken for granted! As far as the neighbour's concerned I'm projecting my own experience of "neighbours" telling me how they go in once a week and see "old Mrs X", followed immediately by "she's got family, but they don't do anything - she's lucky if she sees her daughter once a week". There's no evidence of your mother's neighbour feeling like that, but it's a common feeling. I might be completely off-beam.

yolofish · 14/02/2020 20:44

monkey hello! are you ok? life going on the same way can be very tedious and soul destroying...

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AutumnRose1 · 14/02/2020 20:35

Hello nota you okay yourself?

notaflyingmonkey · 14/02/2020 19:56

I seem to have dropped off this thread, so just popping in to say hello.

Life goes on in much the same way, so nowt to report.

yolofish · 14/02/2020 16:19

hairbrush you dip in/out just as much as you want, or not. As sandwich says, we are randoms but we do all know what you are going through, and we can help if we can, even if just as an outlet to vent or a hand to hold.

I think I would have gone mad without this place... and for me, it was somewhere to just come and 'be' and say the stuff without constantly dumping it on DH and the DDs - although I did that too!

Take care of yourself.

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thesandwich · 14/02/2020 15:48

hairbrush I understand..... this is a random group of internet strangers so think hard about what you are getting/ giving-
Sounds brutal but you are giving so much of yourself to your dm. It’s fine to dip in and out, only if it helps.
It can be a brilliant source of support and advice, but if that c9mes at too high a price...

AutumnRose1 · 14/02/2020 15:38

hairbrush I’ve had times where I’ve thought the board wasn’t good for me but in balance decided it keeps me sane, and civil, for the outside world. My friends would be shocked at my wee song there.

It’s best to get it out here than say it to the wrong person.

But maybe have a break and see how you feel. There are particular threads where I don’t go because they’re too stressful.

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 14/02/2020 15:34

Yes - she is my fairy at the bottom of my garden.

I am trying to decide whether this section of Mumsnet is good for me or not. I was replying to the person who was struggling to feed her mum while she was in hospital and I had a full on panic attack remembering the agony of being told wait in the relatives room knowing it was where my cousin was when she was told her mum had died. I have been in floods of tears all day with the frustration/hopelessness and guilt.