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Deteriorating again in hospital

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 18:32

Argh.
Mum was ok on fri having gone in xmas eve. Plans afoot to get her back on wafarin after the weeken and home ASAP.

Yesterday coughing lots and mysteriously on oxygen. Sta,paed my foot a bit and insisted on seeing a doc. What point is " they'll be here Monday " ? No that not ok. She's not okNOW ! Anyway. Seen and xrayed " don't think its infection ".... Yeah right

Today she's much worse. Away with the faries ( not her at all) scrabbling at the bedding etc. Had oral antibiotic at 3pm but thatsnt going to work fast enough is it? Awaiting more bloods and another doc review.

Darent leave. :(

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2015herewego · 11/01/2015 22:07

Here is the reposted thread on "general health " for you to keep eye on

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/general_health/2279849-Urgent-medical-nursing-help-Desperately-needed-please-help?

I have asked any posters to post advice on this thread too. Good Luck. I hope your Mum gets seen very soon.

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 22:05

Still 54 mins since senior sister intervened and no doc

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Fairyfellowsmasterstroke · 11/01/2015 22:01

Glad to hear you're next on the list to be seen.

It's been a real rollercoaster for you and your mum - praying for a positive outcome.

Flowers Flowers

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 21:57

Any reposting appreciated.

She's sat out now and clearly ventilating better with oxygen via mask rather than spec as was mouth breathing and nose bleeding !

Hope they'll be here soon it has been promised.

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2015herewego · 11/01/2015 21:54

I can see not much traffic in chat either yet - what about posting in "general health" maybe somewhere other medics check out). If you want me to repeat post for you on there just let me know on here and I will.

mamadoc · 11/01/2015 21:47

Have you told them you are a Dr? Time to pull rank and be the annoying medical relative I am afraid. Shouldn't have to do it but I have found it is effective when advocating for my terminally ill mum.

Be assertive and ask to speak to the on call Dr yourself or to escalate to the reg or consultant if they are not willing. Present her symptoms in a detached professional way (I have been known to quote NICE guidance)

2015herewego · 11/01/2015 21:46

good idea.

twentyten · 11/01/2015 21:46

Sending BrewBrew. Keep fighting.

Fairyfellowsmasterstroke · 11/01/2015 21:38

OP - Try starting a new thread in chat (high traffic) asking for nursing/medical advice.

Some one "in the job" might advise.

2015herewego · 11/01/2015 21:36

I don't understand - how much worse do they need your poor mum to get before they do give iv?

VivaLeBeaver · 11/01/2015 21:35

Have they done her blood sugar levels?

VivaLeBeaver · 11/01/2015 21:34

And maybe threaten to ring CQC in the morning?

VivaLeBeaver · 11/01/2015 21:33

Site sister if the senior (ward?) sister doesn't sort it.

Fairyfellowsmasterstroke · 11/01/2015 21:32

Eaten 1 jelly baby and had 2 inches of juice since I arrived at 3pm - I thought that was what OP had eaten Confused Confused

bigbluebus · 11/01/2015 21:27

2 inches of juice since 3pm is not enough. She will start to dehydrate very shortly. Are they recording her food/fluid input?

Very difficult to escalate at weekends - especially at this time of day, as there will be no one more senior around. Consultant only likely to be on call for emergencies, so unless they happen to have been called in for something else they won't be on the premises.

You could try threatening them with escalating it on the basis she's not at least getting fluids - but I doubt there is actually anyone to escalate to at this time on a Sunday.

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 21:15

She's not having anything iv at the moment at all and that's my beef really. They aren't giving her a fighting chance to get over this.

Seen the senior sister who is going to twist his arrogant sho arm to get him to review her

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MrsMcGregor · 11/01/2015 21:00

PALS? Though that won't be quick enough. Is she not having the antibiotics and paracetamol IV? When Mum went in she was immediately up on IV although she did have sepsis. Can you ask to go above the registrar's head? There must be a more senior consultant who can be contacted. I really feel for you. Sending distinctly Unmumsnetty

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 20:33

NEWS. Wise pulse up, resps up, bp ok, temp ok ( within 4hrs of paracetamol ) O2 low and just about ok on oxygen , consciousness a bit down as to normal but fluctuates - given she's normally 100% on the ball that's not right. ( she discussed car depreciation on xmas day with me)

Have asked to escalate because he's now refused to see her.
This is getting serious. Where next? The press , what?

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 20:24

Nagged again. This is a good record.

Obs stable. Still needing oxygen - surely if that's due to infection she needs iv treatment as she's never needed it before.

Eaten 1 jelly baby and had 2 inches of juice since I arrived at 3pm.

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Needmoresleep · 11/01/2015 19:53

What a nightmare. Very best wishes.

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 19:34

Still no doc. Sounds like she doesn't want to go against what the registrar decided earlier. Nagged again.

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bigbluebus · 11/01/2015 19:20

Last time DD was in we had a number of wanderers and many shouters. It is very sad but does provide some 'entertainment' and a "there but for the grace of God go I" feeling. The fire alarm went off twice in one morning as a patient on the floor below had discovered how to set it off. Thankfully we weren't evacuated.
DH had to stay one night with DD on the ward and was very worried when an old lady at the other end of the bay kept shouting "bring me back my knickers" Smile

VivaLeBeaver · 11/01/2015 19:20

And don't be afraid of being a pita. It doesn't matter what the nurses think, etc. I'm sure the majority of them detested me! Grin

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 19:19

You are so right work will just have to cope. After all I have to be physically and mentally 100% present and with it, and I can't be till I know things are as good as I can get them.

Lovely lady across the way toddled past and said " yknow she was really quite well last night" . Which is also interesting.

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VivaLeBeaver · 11/01/2015 19:18

Do you know what she's scoring on NEWS chart?

I remember it been like this with my dad. I had to insist on Drs, insist on outreach review, insist on more pain relief. Nurses tried fobbing me off several times.

Your mum is lucky to have you.