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Deteriorating again in hospital

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 18:32

Argh.
Mum was ok on fri having gone in xmas eve. Plans afoot to get her back on wafarin after the weeken and home ASAP.

Yesterday coughing lots and mysteriously on oxygen. Sta,paed my foot a bit and insisted on seeing a doc. What point is " they'll be here Monday " ? No that not ok. She's not okNOW ! Anyway. Seen and xrayed " don't think its infection ".... Yeah right

Today she's much worse. Away with the faries ( not her at all) scrabbling at the bedding etc. Had oral antibiotic at 3pm but thatsnt going to work fast enough is it? Awaiting more bloods and another doc review.

Darent leave. :(

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VivaLeBeaver · 12/01/2015 21:40

Pleased she's improving.

Viewofthehills · 12/01/2015 21:27

Very happy to hear that. Hope she continues to improve.

2015herewego · 12/01/2015 21:02

So pleased to here you got this sorted - what an ordeal for your mum and you.

twentyten · 12/01/2015 17:38

So pleased to hear. Well done. ThanksThanksThanks

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Theas18 · 12/01/2015 16:53

Thanks for all the support. I'm ignoring the chat thread now as people think I'm being mean to the junior docs. I'm not. I know they are working under hellish pressures. However if I as a gp sent a patient like mum in as new admission I'd be hugely annoyed and probably would complain if it took 9hrs from her arriving in hospital to getting iv antibiotics so I'm not sure how it's different just because she's sittibg quietly and uncomplainingly on a ward.

IV treatment is magic of course. She's now talking sense and has shuffled to the loo nearly as well as Saturday with her zimmer. Last night she was taking 2 to get her on a commode. She's even drinking Her fortisip !

No out of the woods of course but dodged this bullet at the moment.

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Needmoresleep · 12/01/2015 06:39

I hope that you both got a good nights sleep and that things have started to improve. Thoughts are with you and your poor mum.

ChristmasHiccups · 11/01/2015 23:59

Yay :)

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 23:58

Well finally seen by a pleasant ( if slightly smarmy) registrar who " appreciated all my concerns" and has agreed to iv rx which is really all I was concerned about.

At least he didn't try to bs about the bits like the clotting that he didn't understand so kudos for that Mr registrar!

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MyOneandYoni · 11/01/2015 23:55

Good luck... You sound like a fantastic daughter...

olympicsrock · 11/01/2015 23:51

Good thought. Usually of pts have a v high resp rate the protocol is for register to review and outreach to be called.

Arriettyborrower · 11/01/2015 23:49

Does the hospital have an Outreach Team?

olympicsrock · 11/01/2015 23:39

Do not phone the cons directly they would think you were very ott. They may not be on call and it would be unreasonable.

olympicsrock · 11/01/2015 23:38

Hi Thea. Her resp rate is concerning. I would have a look at the ons chart and calculate her News score. Ask what the hospital policy is for escalating g given her News score or Early warning score. Ask to speak to the site manager. Threaten a formal complaint.

Fairyfellowsmasterstroke · 11/01/2015 23:33

OP - A doctor has picked up your thread in Chat. Lets hope professional advice is coming your way.

Thats why I love MNers x

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mamadoc · 11/01/2015 23:32

Just do whatever it takes. Call switchboard and say it's Dr so and so they will assume you are a GP.

I have called the consultant via switchboard before now when my mum was very ill and not getting good care. He was not best pleased but I did not care at all. I never had to meet him again!

I am not normally a person to do that and nor do I think it is right that 'he who shouts loudest' but when it comes to my own family I was no way going to stand by and let them screw up.

Start mentioning unacceptable delay and that you are going to complain that will likely get some action.

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 23:18

Resps are24-28 depending if awake or asleep. She's had s drink and looks a bit better say out and on a decent O2 amount via mask.
Sat out in chair and seems easing breathing
Obs have been some and aren't changing.
Have resorted to calling the senior sister myself via outsiide line as ward clear think I'm being too much of a pest !

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FabULouse · 11/01/2015 23:14

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VivaLeBeaver · 11/01/2015 23:09

New onset confusion with the Obs you've said are raised suggests she's scoring enough for a sepsis care bundle to be started. Ask the nurses if it's been done and if not should it have been according to their policy?

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 23:09

54 mins at 22.05 add another 65 to that.

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 22:56

Grand now the nurses don't have time to call. There is casually nothing active going on but I'll give them 2 more mins and call myself via switch I think!

Gawd this is beyond awful

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 22:54

I reckon that's 10 mins. 11 now. Off to agitate again

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 22:43

Doc will be 5-10 mins apparently. We'll see.

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Theas18 · 11/01/2015 22:34

She was mentally fine on Friday / Saturday even!
Bloody hell if it was 54 mins at 2205 it's now 84 mins!

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lalamumto3 · 11/01/2015 22:07

Hope you get seen soon, I was amazed at how quickly my mum responded to iv antibiotic so please push for them. Also make sure they know she was mentally fine at Christmas.

Good luck