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dad went suddenly blind at 83: advice please on how to help him

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funnyperson · 17/10/2012 03:47

I would really like help on where to go for advice on how to support my dad who went blind yesterday. He has been admitted to hospital, very ill, for septicemia which is improving with iv antibiotics but he suddenly lost all sight in one eye and most of the sight in the other yesterday morning. We managed to get the eye specialists to see him urgently they say he has vitreous haemmorhages.
What do we do when he gets home? How best to cope? What will he need? Who do we ask? Help, we are lost here and very sad for him.

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funnyperson · 23/11/2012 05:35

To our happy surprise dad has turned a corner! He is sitting up, alert and breathing, though the tube is still down. He has a marvellous nurse, has had the same one for three days which has been fantastic. His pain relief is about right. He is coughing and gagging on the tube though which is very worrying. But they turn the pain relief off to help him wake up for a short time every day. This will strengthen his muscles. His eyes are better- he is alert and looking around and taking in all that happens in the ITU. He is signing because he can't talk with the tube down. So happy.

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gingeroots · 22/11/2012 09:21

How's it going funnyperson ?

Could you take him home ?

funnyperson · 18/11/2012 05:41

We had a good meeting. Everyone agreed that dad needed pain relief, and since then he has been prescribed some and is more settled. He is very very weak now and even with the best nursing and medical care I fear he will not survive.
We would so like to scoop him up and bring him home.

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gingeroots · 16/11/2012 08:56

I am so sorry you are all going through this .

Well done for expressing your wishes and for putting it in writing .

I'm desperately trying to think that the meeting might be a good thing ? If you can just get one senior person to see sense things might alter .
Can you take someone to support you ,would PALS help ?

I'm wondering which hospital this is ,I imagine you can't say .

Thinking of you .

funnyperson · 16/11/2012 05:38

They rotate because 'the nurses like variety'.
Nothing to do with the patients then.

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funnyperson · 16/11/2012 05:37

In three weeks he has only ever had the same nurse twice.

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funnyperson · 16/11/2012 05:36

Dad is stable on his ventilator and, thank goodness, they have been sedating him.
He is stuck because he has a different nurse every day and they don't want to /can't be bothered to wean him off. Its bizarre- the consultants will say that the tube will come out tomorrow and ask the nurse to change the settings, and it simply doesn't happen. There is a lack of nursing will to progress him, in case he deteriorates, and the doctors, who are more confident, simply aren't around enough.
The nurses are dead keen for dad to have a tracheostomy- it makes it easier for them. But dad didn't want anyone to cut his throat so we've told the staff in writing that he and we don't want that. They are cross. Families and patients shouldn't have opinions. We have been hauled up before a panel of 5 tomorrow, only one of whom is actually involved in dad's care.
Mum and I are shattered.

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gingeroots · 13/11/2012 08:32

Delighted to hear that funnyperson .

And what Dibbler said .

How are you yourself ?

CMOTDibbler · 12/11/2012 22:00

Brilliant news ! Hope he's getting some better care too.

funnyperson · 12/11/2012 21:54

Wonderful news today: the eye doctors have been and say that dad can see light with the blind eye! His eyes are improving with all the drops!

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Mollydoggerson · 11/11/2012 22:47

That's good to hear x

funnyperson · 11/11/2012 14:56

Thank goodness dad was sedated last night and this morning when they woke him up the consultant on today said he was clearly very active and uncomfortable and recommended pain relief. I could have cried with relief. Thank goodness.

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Mollydoggerson · 11/11/2012 00:07

I am so sorry your Dad is in so much pain and distress and that your family are going through this.

Keep screaming and fighting for him, surely something can be done. Threaten solicitors/media. I am thinking of you and wishing you strength.

hellymelly · 10/11/2012 23:59

OMG that is unbelievable, I am so sorry you are all going through this, your Dad suffering, you all having to watch. Why are the nurses going against the consultant? I do think you need to complain higher up. Would age concern be any help I wonder? I would call them and ask for advice as his "care" sounds terrible. He can't go on like this and nor can you. Complain as high up as you can, and be very vocal. Threaten to contact your local paper etc. I hope things improve.

gingeroots · 10/11/2012 23:43

What a terrible terrible time for you all .

I wish I had some wise words but my only advice is to complain .

I am so sorry .

At least your father knows you are there .

hugs

funnyperson · 10/11/2012 21:44

They stopped the sedation yesterday morning and for pain relief put him on oral paracetamol. I made a fuss and they (after an hour of arguing) gave the paracetamol iv as per prescription but it is smashing his liver to bits.

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funnyperson · 10/11/2012 21:42

Dad is still on a ventilator in ITU. His chest is getting better but his heart in infected.
The latest torture has been to stop the sedation and pain relief and make him wake up with his ventilator tube stuck down his throat. He has been coughing and gagging and tears coming out of his eyes, all day, and the saddest thing has been watching his head twist and turn and his weak hand come up to try to move the tube, and his tongue coming out to try and push it out. He is triggering all his breaths himself .The nurse says and the consultant says he cannot have the tube out, and the nurse has refused to give him any sedation and refuses to accept that he is in pain and discomfort and is suffering and we have watched him suffer for 10 hours today and I have argues with the nurse to no avail even when the consultant said to sedate him because the tube wasnt coming out today. He must be so tired and it is so sad and distressing and inhuman.
I dont care how many degrees or courses they have been on, or how clever they think they are, I think the nurse today was one of the most inhuman persons I have come across in my life.

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gingeroots · 09/11/2012 09:24

funnyperson how are things ?

straighttohellymelly · 31/10/2012 22:36

Oh funnyperson, your poor Dad, he is having such an awful time. How terribly upsetting about the meat, that is just rubbish of them to not have upheld that, they must be used to kosher diets etc, and vegetarianism is so common. Not a mistake they should be making. I do agree that hospitals don't pull out all the stops when someone is elderly, but DH's Grandma had eye surgery in her early 90's , so old age doesn't always rule things out. Could you ask to have a family meeting with his consultant and team? My own Dad died a few weeks ago but when he was in hospital we had a few meeting like that which helped to get everyone's perspective and to clarify what was happening. If I were you i would try and push for that tomorrow, and see what their reasons are for the treatment (or lack of) that he is having.
The hourly obs must be horrible. I was on two hour obs in hospital after having dd1, they woke me each time to take my blood pressure and it drove me demented with tiredness.
I am wishing your Dad better soon, you sound such a loving daughter, he must be so proud of you.

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funnyperson · 31/10/2012 21:16

I dont feel grateful any more. I should, but I dont.

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funnyperson · 31/10/2012 21:15

Different tortures are devised for dad everyday
today it is very high flow cold oxygen via facemask which bubbles loudly and dries up the nostrils and throat. freezing the face and making the voice so hoarse one cannot be understood.
After 2 weeks the family and he are so tired of him being seriously ill, watching him gasp for every breath, while people do endless blood tests and x rays and washes and always always seem to be t him so he has had no rest.
He wont eat any hospital food at all now.

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funnyperson · 31/10/2012 02:34

Thank you- it really helps to know someone is out there

Dad has fewer tubes in and is no longer in renal failure but still in serious heart failure. He is getting black spots in his good eye, the other eye is still blind. The hospital are being very very very slow about treating his eyes or transferring him to a specialist unit. It has been so distressing as each consultant just seems to wash their hands of him because he is old. Yesterday evening he was transferred from ITU to the ward and the ward have now got him on hourly observations because he is so ill, so he isn't getting any sleep at all and is exhausted.
No consultant or senior doc appears to be in charge any more. They decided he would not be transferred to a specialist eye unit (because he is old nad his blind eye has been written off) and instead want him to go down to eye clinic in a wheel chair tomorrow. He cant it in a wheelchair as yet as he is too ill and is still in a lot of oxygen. I think he is simply going to loose the sight in his 'good eye' . Worst of all is watching him suffer and in pain.
Yesterday, to cap it all, the speech therapist said he could have something to eat and the ward gave him meat- he is a Hindu vegetarian. So are his children and grandchildren and his entire family for thousands of years. It was clearly on his records. Matron gave me a written apology after I complained about the smirking staff nurse who did it - but the apology was 'at your request' so clearly through gritted teeth.

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harbingerofdoom · 29/10/2012 19:46

Funnyperson, hope your Dad is getting better. He has been sounding stronger.

straighttohellymelly · 27/10/2012 21:42

Hoping your Dad continues to improve and is feeling properly better soon.