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Emigrating and Dmil can't come for 2 years

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Mosman · 01/05/2012 20:08

And doesn't want to leave her pension, she'd loose 25% of it if she leaves the UK.
She's not in the best of health at the moment and on that basis alone would struggle to gain entry, but that aside its a long trip, she wants to travel in comfort which she/we could not afford but I think she wants us to pay for business class for her whilst we travel cattle class due to her arthritis.
We are definitely going but I'm quite cross with her that her bloody pension is coming before being with her family but if we left her behind what would happen to her if she deteriates is there any provision for those with no immediate family? What are people's experiences with social services etc please ?

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Mosman · 23/06/2012 12:44

I'm more concerned about what Kate knows that I don't

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ShellyBobbs · 23/06/2012 12:22

Someone rattle your cage madwoman? Yes, you NEVER see people posting on threads once they go over the MN 28 day limit Hmm

Mosman · 20/06/2012 14:34

Is it something you've had experience of Kate ?

I can't honestly afford professional advice on top of what I've already spent getting my daughter out, which has been a whole saga all on it's on.

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KatieWimslow · 20/06/2012 14:30

I would strongly suggest seeking professional advice.

Someone who truly knows and understands the in's and out's...

KW
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Mosman · 18/06/2012 08:56

She knows she can't come permanently, it'll be 6 months to begin with to help us get settled and then with a bit of luck she won't want to come again.
That's the plan anyway if we finally get out there.
Thanks for the info CL that is very good to know about the insurance.

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madwomanintheattic · 17/06/2012 03:12

Did you get bored and want to start the ruck over again, shellybob? Only ordinarily, people don't post on month old threads...

CaliforniaLeaving · 17/06/2012 02:23

I don't think you could force her to do anything at her age Mosman, even if you wanted too.
My mother is 74 and used to come to California twice a year to see us for a month or two at a time. She is getting to the end of being able to do the long haul flights they are doing her in, and we are a lot closer that Australia. She's coming in October and then we should be moving back to her in 2013.
She has also found it more and more difficult to find medical insurance for her trips out, many won't cover more than 30 days and they get more and more expensive every year as she gets older. Last time it was almost as expensive as the flight.
US has an agreement of sorts with UK so UK pensioners living here get the cost of living increases, no agreement with Aus so they are frozen at the amount they get when they move. I believe it's the same for Canada.
You may want to rethink moving her out permanently, anything could happen medically and isn't Aus more like US and you'd be on the hook for the financial aspect of it all.

ShellyBobbs · 06/06/2012 23:10

Mosman All I can say is that you sound like a saint, I can't believe some of the abuse you've had on here.

Good luck to you, I really hope everything works out for you.

Jux · 06/05/2012 21:29

Yes, you should now. Your dh should be dealing with her now the main decision's been made.

Mind you, people are more likely to grass on what they see as benefit cheats, though she's not what you'd call a typical one. Just be aware.

Mosman · 06/05/2012 20:52

Well it turns out as long as she keeps her mouth shut they would never know where she is 6 months of the year. she's doing my head in already tbh, i know she can't help it but the conversations are all about her and i can't help thinking i should be devoting the energy to the little children I am actually responsible for.

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Jux · 06/05/2012 20:41

Hmmm, good luck. Is she willing to sacrifice that 25% now?

Mosman · 06/05/2012 17:16

I thought once we were permanent residents we could bring her over with full medical care after 2 years, it seems not.

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amothersplaceisinthewrong · 06/05/2012 17:13

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Have you thought what would happen if MIL comes out to live with you and then becomes ill with (say) ALzheimers or some very debilitiating conditions. Who would look after her - would there be funding in your new country for this or would it fall to you and your family.

I would most definietly think that at 75 your MIL should stay where she is. 75 is too old to be making a new life on the other side of the world.

Jux · 04/05/2012 20:27

Oh Mosman, how can your dh expect you to support her as well? What does he say? Does he back you up?

Sexist I know, but it didn't occur to me that you were the breadwinner and paying for it all. I suppose because it was MIL making financial demands, I assumed those demands were being made on your dh, not you.

How on earth can you expect to have a good future in a new country with an extra adult who has such expectations of you? How is that going to work?

It raises your sense of duty to an exceptional level. Hats off to you.

Organize a spa day for your next day off. DH to deal with everything, absolutely everything, so you get a decent rest, and deep relaxation, or you simply won't last the course.

Have you got a job out there? Has dh? Have you got a house to go to, or will you be in a hotel, or what?

It really is important that you get some time off. Please make that your priority.

ToothbrushThief · 04/05/2012 16:25

Oh Mosman that all sounds horrible. But without doubt ...leave her behind. It sounds tbh like they are abusing your willingness to provide. I would not financially maintain another adult....partner or parent in law.

(Nor would I expect to be maintained)

madwomanintheattic · 04/05/2012 14:56

Have you not passed your medicals yet then? So you guys don't have visas yet?

If it's a tb cxr, the fags won't impact.

madwomanintheattic · 04/05/2012 14:55

I thought you were in the middle of an employment tribunal as well?

When are you actually supposed to be going?

Are you sure your other work worries etc aren't just combining into a v stressful time and you are not overreacting?

If your marriage is in trouble before you even go, then you all really need to sit down calmly and discuss whether you are going to bother.

Usually the big new start just moves your existing troubles issues and difficulties to an unfamiliar location. You take your metaphorical baggage with you, as well as your literal stuff.

Emigrating is stressful, we all know that. But in this case I'm not sure you ave all sat down and discussed it rationally, it seems full of expectations and bitterness. All of the adults involved need to make up their own minds.

I wish you luck, and I hope it all works out.

RabidAnchovy · 04/05/2012 14:24

Leave her behind, and tell your DH if he wants to stay with her he is more then welcome. Please do not take her with you for the sake of your sanity

Mosman · 04/05/2012 09:32

I am very stressed and smoking heavily which is not good for the chest xray I have coming up

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Mosman · 04/05/2012 09:31

Jux whenever I sit down and explain that I am the main breadwinner in our family and that I am just about holding it together to pay for my family never mind top up her pocket money she bursts into tears and looks at DH and says how can she be so selfish ?

Selfish ? I owe her nothing financially, her son is basically being supported by me which is fine and she thinks she comes as part of that package and is like a 5th child to me.

Honestly I married him when she lived 300 miles away if I'd had any idea she was part of the package I can honestly say I wouldn't have married him, if we spilt up it'll be down to her, the last few days have really highlighted that she and I don't get on and I am damned if I do and damned if I don't.

I'm considering going on my own (with the lovely children of course).

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RabidAnchovy · 04/05/2012 08:48

Go, start a fantastic new life, send her a post card. Job done

Jux · 04/05/2012 08:42

Try to take a step back, take some deep breaths and look for objectivity. Trite, I know, but your posts show how stressed you are, and I think that if you an find half an hour to just sit and be quiet, it will help.

I do applaud your sense of duty and obligation towards your MIL despite her unpleasantness.

I'm glad she's made a decision and I hope it doesn't impact too harshly on your ability to settle into your new life.

You've ensured she understands the implications of her staying alone in UK, but does she understand the implications of her going with you? You won't necessarily be able to support her financially. Is she still expecting the top-up to her pension, for instance?

ToothbrushThief · 04/05/2012 08:20

Your decisions impact on her

You seem to want everyone to fall in line with you and your thoughts. You cannot make her think the way you want her to. All you can do is decide your own path

Mosman · 04/05/2012 08:15

She an adult of course she is but her decisions impact on other people, it's annoying that she doesn't care about that, if she didn't understand then it was important to ensure she did.

As it happens she's decided to come but after this thread bringing to light feelings and things I haven't thought of previously I'm not sure I want her son to come nevermind her.

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ToothbrushThief · 04/05/2012 07:41

OP - she is an adult capable of making decisions. Let her.

You are resenting her manipulation of you to pay for travel that you can't afford and pension top up.

Put it to her - this is the deal - it's her choice whatever she decides. Yes you have to accept living with the worry but it might be the best choice for her.

Accept her choice.
My 85 yr old neighbour lives alone. She copes and is very independent.