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Elderly parents

its so very hard to see your parents get old

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ssd · 08/09/2011 20:36

thats it really

my mum is 84, I can't believe she's that old, but when I see her I see every year in her IYKWIM

she's very frail and infirm

I can remember when she could walk aroind with me, she doesn't do that anymore, she clings onto me and walks about 3 metres with a stick

I just wish she could be a gran to my kids, she was a great gran to my older siblings kids but she's too old to do anything with mine, also she's a different woman to the one she was 10 yrs ago

Its not fair, and I absolutely dread it happening to me

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ssd · 28/09/2011 16:22

Dumbledoresgirl, again, I'm so sorry. I feel I can see a lot of things in your post, fear, guilt, sadness and pity for your mum. I don't have experience of demantia or strokes, so I couldnt give you any advice rather than to say I'm sorry this has happened to your mum and dad and you. I nodded my head in recognition of what your mum said when she was younger ""if I ever get dementia, just knock me over the head and put me out of my misery".", I can remember my mum and dad saying separate things like that, then when it actually came true I remembered it and it killed me seeing them like that.I hope that makes sense. I suspect you are missing the mum you had and don't know what to do for the best for the mum you have now. The only practical thing I can think of is seeing her gp, and ringing up social services to see how they can help. Are you near your mum and dad?

sorry I'm not much use, I hope someone else with more experience comes along, but I just wanted to let you know you're not alone.

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GentleOtter · 28/09/2011 10:04

Dumbledoresgirl - I wanted to add my support for you.

There is never an age in our lives when we feel grown up in regard to our parents and sometimes the day comes when we step into the role of 'parent' and they, the child.

It is important to try and get support, for yourself and your parents and if you can, some counselling for coping, feelings of guilt, etc.

The Princess Royal Trust for carers are excellent for offering support and advice - we found them while we were struggling with dad (who had repeated TIAs and dementia), it was a hideously difficult time, more so coping with guilt and exhaustion as we had a new baby too.

I did not want you to feel alone or isolated and we are all here for you. x

Dumbledoresgirl · 28/09/2011 09:21

Thank you twentyten and ssd. It is good to have found this little place as I can tell from reading the posts here that I will be talking to people who are going through the same feelings that I am. I will try and explain my situation but I have a feeling it might not say all I want to say.

In brief: my mother had a major stroke 6 years ago. It affected her sight and her mental processes so that she can no longer read, drive, etc, and is easily flustered and confused, eg, she enjoys cooking but can no longer read the recipes correctly (esp figures) and if anyone talks to her as she is cooking, she falls to pieces. She is highly frustrated (and, we now know, depressed) by all this - understandably. She has also had some mobility problems lately (unrelated to the stroke, just part of getting old) though these have been successfully treated.

The thing that triggered off my last post was my brother emailing me to tell me he had seen our parents recently and my mother had been totally confused by everything going on around her. I mean, majorly confused, as in: "what are we doing here?" "why are we here?" "I don't recognise this place at all" (somewhere she has visited frequently). It all sounds like she is developing dementia, although it might just have been the stress of visiting my brother had caused her a really bad attack of confusion.

I can't think of anything worse than seeing a loved one succumb to dementia. Many years ago when she was fit and well, my mother used to say "if I ever get dementia, just knock me over the head and put me out of my misery". I know she would still feel that way now. In fact, I know she wishes the stroke had killed her rather than living the restricted life she has now. I know this will sound selfish, but I can't bear the thought of watching my mother slowly lose herself and become a husk. I would rather she died now than see that. I also worry that if she has dementia, I will get it too one day. Sorry, that is shamelessly selfish of me....

My brother's email hit me at a bad time. I am in the middle of a little bout of depression myself, and my dh is away this week which I always hate. I rely on him a lot for support as I don't have many friends and anyway, don't see much of them. Initially, I couldn't ring my father to ask about my mother as I was too afraid of what he would say, but he rang me yesterday and talking to him did help calm me down a bit though also made me sad to hear about him managing the situation. I am just so sad that there is a situation for him (and her) to manage. I wanted my parents to enjoy a long and happy old age without the horrid things that can affect older people, the worst of which, I feel, is dementia.

Sorry, I haven't said half of what I feel is in me, but that is my basic situation. I know part of me is just in shock and I will get used to the idea that it is now my role to care for my parents instead of the other way around, but right now, my reaction is simply to cry that I can no longer rely on my mother to be the rock in my stormy sea. I am 46 btw! (you would think I would have grown up by now!) and my mother is 79.

ssd · 28/09/2011 08:17

oh dumbledore, I'm so sorry, we're here to talk when you're ready

you aren't alone, I can promise you that

I'm a bit disappointed the elderly parents topic hasn't been more use to everyone, but it might mean not so many people are having a difficult time with their old folks

I'm so sorry you are

you'll get great advice here when your ready to post, I know I did

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twentyten · 27/09/2011 14:50

Oh poor dumbledore!Yes it,s a bit quiet here but just wanted to reach out a hand,cuppa,box of tissues and bar of choc and say you are not alone.

Talk when you are ready.

you are not alone

Dumbledoresgirl · 27/09/2011 10:00

I don't know if this thread is still active or if anyone will read this. I heard some disturbing news about my mother yesterday and all I have been able to do since is think about it and cry a little from time to time. I don't feel up to talking about it yet, but reading this thread made me realise I am not alone. I desperately wish someone would just hold my hand while I cry.

ssd · 23/09/2011 20:47

thank you!

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twentyten · 23/09/2011 14:26

Good to hear it!! keep looking after yourself-small pleasures help a lot!And if you need it-seek help and support.

ssd · 23/09/2011 13:59

thanks twentyten

am actually doing ok now, think that when when I posted here a lot i was feeling really down, but being able to post here and get it all out really helped, I'll be posting again when it all goes crazy, but so far its fine!

thanks so much for your concern, means a lot Smile

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twentyten · 22/09/2011 21:48

Hi ssd hope you are ok. Can't help youuvh with anti d'd although several people I know have used them as "first aid " to help short term and then got other support to help change how they felt about and How they coped. Please see the gp. There are agencies to support- might help. Big hugxx

ssd · 16/09/2011 16:22

thanks girls Smile

dazr, can i ask, when you came off the medication was the problems still the same and did you cope better with the problem without being on the medication?? the reason I think it would be long term is that I can't see how things'll change for the forseeable future, whilst mum is still here and the problems are still the same. I can't see how going on medication for a short while then coming off it and returning to the same old problems would help? Am I missing something? I can kinda see how medication would liften your mood, but if the problems that made you take the medication are still the same how can you come off them if your going back to the same problem IYSWIM??

I know I sound daft, just confused about anti depressants. I feel I would benefit from them then when I came off i'd feel low again as all the problems would still be here?

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DazR · 16/09/2011 14:31

Hi ssd, A couple of years ago I was in a similar position as you. My dad was caring for my mum who had dementia and various other medical conditions. My dad struggled so much and although I could help where possible it was mentally exhausting to see them both in such a sad state. My mood was so low that I eventually went to the GP. He was so understanding and I went on ADs for a very short period to see me over that bad time. They enabled me to cope with life generally and the situation my parents were in. They made me stronger and more positive and more able to cope with things - they do not need to be a 'long term' solution. Please speak to your GP and find out all the options available to you. Good luck.

twentyten · 16/09/2011 14:14

Hi ssd. understand about doc's-glad you have made another appointment.
I do understand your felings about anti depressants- but worth talking through. Counselling is available in different forms on the NHS but can take time-have a look at the BACP website for details about couselling and cousellors who are all accredited.You can contact them directly-not cheap but an initial conversation is often free.
But do make some time for you to do something you love-anything.Even half an hour in the bath.
Would it help writing things down about how you feel? And make a list to take to the GP? It can really help.Lots of quiet hugs.

JajasWolef · 16/09/2011 10:20

Hope you have a lovely time tonight ssd. Chatting to friends helps enormously Smile.

ssd · 16/09/2011 09:12

aw bugger just realised next fri schools are closed, will need to make it for the next one again. fri is my only day off ,got one for the 30th

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ssd · 16/09/2011 09:09

i've cancelled the appt. we're all going out tonight and i can't just say oh before we go I'm going to the doctors, they'd all want to know why (haven't told dh how I feel, he's very balck and white, seen an advert for Kalms tablets for anxiety on the tv and said god what a load of crap, do people actually buy that rubbish), don't want the spanish inquisition before I go, I should have made the appt for during the day when the kids are at school and dh is at work instead of making it for 5.50pm when I'm always around. I haven't even got somewhere I could lie to them I'm going, especially just before we all go out to dinner, a very rare birthday treat.
Anyway girls don't think I'm totally chickening out, I've made an appt. for next week during the day on my day off, I want some headspace before I go, not "mum why are you going to the doctors now"

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JajasWolef · 16/09/2011 08:50

I did pay for it although you can get it on the NHS but would probably have to wait quite a while.

NLP is NeuroLinguisticProgramming and is a form of brain training I suppose. It helps you to see things in a different way and teaches you different strategies and coping mechanisms. Very useful tool as is hypnotism.

Best of luck at the gp today.

ssd · 15/09/2011 22:23

not at all jajas, its just me rambling, I'm scared of anti-d's actually, scared I'll get hooked and be on them forever

can I ask, how did you get counselling and nlp(whats that?) and hypnotism?? did you need to pay for this stuff?

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JajasWolef · 15/09/2011 22:16

Sorry, didn't mean to suggest that AD's were the only answer. I actually only took them for 2 months and came off them as they made me feel weird. It was counselling that really helped, with NLP and hypnotism. It's finding what works for you.

Hey, you have coped with lots in the past that means you know you have the deep down strength to deal with this too Smile.

ssd · 15/09/2011 21:50

I'm scared to go on anti depressants, I feel I could be on them for years and get used to them and this scares me

maybe I should ask for counselling, I find talking usually helps me, maybe this is the answer

I just feel a bit daft going to the doctor about "emotions", not a physical thing, I've never done this before, usually I cope with everything, my dad dying, being really unwell after having ds2, why can't I just get through this without help? I feel I need to toughen up.

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Stropperella · 15/09/2011 20:25

It's a tough one and there are no easy answers - particularly if you don't have supportive siblings. Get yourself as much support as possible, from wherever you can.

JajasWolef · 15/09/2011 20:10

ssd, please don't let what I said put you off seeing your gp tomorrow, it can't do any harm to at least talk it through with him/her. I went on AD's after my DM had died, just for a while to help me through the worst bit. Sometimes you just need a bit of extra support at times like this.

twentyten · 15/09/2011 19:41

Oh ssd I have been thinking about you this week. Yes this will pass but it's getting through and putting something in the tank to get you through. Please see your gp because there may be some other sources of practical help and advice he/she can direct you to. This is your life too. And your kids.

ssd · 15/09/2011 18:55

jajas, thanks

I said further up the thread I was going to see my gp tomorrow because I feel I need something to help me through this. But I've thought of this all week and I feel like just now I'm stuck in limbo, exactly as you said, also my problem is is that we have no family nearby, no support with the kids at all and a lot of the time it all gets too much and the situation with my mum is the nail in the coffin sometimes. I just don't think the gp can help, the only thing that can help is my kids getting older and less on my hands all the time with no break and my mum not being here (I hate to write that_)

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scaryteacher · 15/09/2011 09:50

There is a flip side of the coin though. My Dad died 10 years ago at 60 and a week, so he has missed out on his gcs growing up; at attempting to repair some of the damage in the relationship between he and I, and I still feel that his death left so much unresolved and unanswered.

Whilst my fil dying is so sad, he was 80, and he had seen his gcs get to adulthood and late teens; he had been retired for some time, and so, whilst upset because such a lovely man has gone from our lives, I am glad that even when he was in a home and didn't know who we were, we took in wine and read him bits out of the paper, talked to him and even just sat and held his hand, and we got to tell him we loved him and that he mattered to us.

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