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To feel sorry for Ed Sheeran.....

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mids2019 · 16/09/2026 16:19

So Ed Sheeran's tour is in tatters simply because he believes music for entertainment and personally he likes to keep politics out of it (as many many stars do).

Simply because his support wanted to highlight the oppressed people of Iran and the use of capital punishment to stifle dissent support wanted to bring up Gaza without any reference to the start of the war due to a massacre on October 7th and Ed didn't want that he is suddenly the bad guy? Perhaps Ed succumbed to sing of thinking of Jews in the audience and the connotations of 'Free Paelstine' he is now on the naughty step of virtue signallers.

So all those Sheeran fans could lose out seeing someone they have waited months to see because some humpty has to jump on the Gaza bandwagon with a few trite soundbites as part of his act (because hey the ME isn't complicated) to look a bit radical or whatever. Bloody disgrace.

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stargirl27 · 17/09/2026 08:22

Proteinlentil · 17/09/2026 06:28

Massive Ed Sheeran fan @mids2019 ?

Someone has to be

inamarina · 17/09/2026 08:23

I wonder if the people applauding Macklemore for ‘at least standing up for his values’ expressed similar support for Boy George when he published his ‘We will dance again’.

Emilesgran · 17/09/2026 08:25

OnePeppyFatball · 17/09/2026 03:40

Well at least Mackelmore has the integrity to put his money where his mouth is:

With everything that has happened over the last 48hours, I want to bring the conversation back to where it belongs; to the Palestinian people who are still being killed, still living under military occupation, and still fighting for their freedom.’
‘I invite Robert Kraft to match my donation,’ Macklemore added, ‘Whatever we disagree about, perhaps we can agree on this: Palestinian lives are worth protecting.
‘A Palestinian life is no less valuable than any other life on this earth’.

Somehow I don’t think Kraft will be keen to do the same.

Palestinian lives are definitely worth protecting. Several of the “charities” claiming to do so were actually sending their money to Hamas though so “putting his money where his mouth is” can mean helping Hamas who torture and murder their own people just for criticising them.

And even when a charity hasn’t been set up as a front for Hamas, they often just take the money anyway. Who do you think was selling aid at such inflated prices during the war? The charities who’d given it for free? 😬

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 08:28

Yes, I feel very sorry for him. Bit as always, the radical left (as perfectly demonstrated by many of the responses on this thread), think they they can destroy someone’s life if they don’t share the same opinions or dare step over the line.

stargirl27 · 17/09/2026 08:29

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 08:28

Yes, I feel very sorry for him. Bit as always, the radical left (as perfectly demonstrated by many of the responses on this thread), think they they can destroy someone’s life if they don’t share the same opinions or dare step over the line.

Destroy someone’s life? I can assure you Ed will be fine. Unlike, you know, the actual people whose lives have been destroyed in Palestine.

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 08:33

stargirl27 · 17/09/2026 08:29

Destroy someone’s life? I can assure you Ed will be fine. Unlike, you know, the actual people whose lives have been destroyed in Palestine.

There are conflicts going on all over the world, but it’s always Palestine that the left go on about. Why?

ChoppyWalters · 17/09/2026 08:34

Whether Ed is protected by money or not, why should he be forced to show a political viewpoint if it is not what he wants to do. He went into the business to entertain, not preach. I wish more entertainers took that neutral stance. Why do people who think they are good at acting, or singing, or playing an instrument, or born into a royal family, think that this gives them a platform to preach politics or to sway public opinion. Entertain or get off the stage.

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 08:43

ChoppyWalters · 17/09/2026 08:34

Whether Ed is protected by money or not, why should he be forced to show a political viewpoint if it is not what he wants to do. He went into the business to entertain, not preach. I wish more entertainers took that neutral stance. Why do people who think they are good at acting, or singing, or playing an instrument, or born into a royal family, think that this gives them a platform to preach politics or to sway public opinion. Entertain or get off the stage.

Exactly this. Music should be for everyone to enjoy. Not just those with one particular political persuasion.

It’s exclusionary tactics which are childish, petulant and selfish.

Hollyholiday2 · 17/09/2026 08:59

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 08:43

Exactly this. Music should be for everyone to enjoy. Not just those with one particular political persuasion.

It’s exclusionary tactics which are childish, petulant and selfish.

Art including music has always been political. It’s up to ES not to use his stage for politics of course. Personally I applaud those that do speak up
and stand up for their convictions. They have a voice and stage and choose to use it to do some good.

stargirl27 · 17/09/2026 08:59

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 08:33

There are conflicts going on all over the world, but it’s always Palestine that the left go on about. Why?

Do you understand the context of this thread?

Hollyholiday2 · 17/09/2026 09:02

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 08:33

There are conflicts going on all over the world, but it’s always Palestine that the left go on about. Why?

I didn’t know you had to be left wing to take a stance against mass murder.

ThisRedZebra · 17/09/2026 09:02

I find it wild how many comments describe opinion on this as political persuasion or a left to right issue. It's the mass slaughter of civilians in an oppressed state. That has been verified by leading authorities around the world. Maybe you don't want to think about it at a concert, fair enough, but the fact that it's a divisive take is unreal.

Similar happened when people protested the Vietnam war. But I had assumed most people looked back quite favourably now on those who stood up and were counted. Maybe not based on these comments

inamarina · 17/09/2026 09:05

Hollyholiday2 · 17/09/2026 09:02

I didn’t know you had to be left wing to take a stance against mass murder.

That’s not answering pp’s question.

CTIwithAI · 17/09/2026 09:16

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So the ordinary people of Gaza are not Hamas but it's fine for you to make a disgusting comment about "the Jews"?

BortusRegener8ed · 17/09/2026 09:22

ProfessionalTeaDrinker · 16/09/2026 16:53

And you think there wouldn't have been backlash and kicking off if he's cancelled a tour in solidarity? He didn't have any good choices here

No, not from anyone who doesn't support a genocide or people who understand friendships. Personally I'd be disappointed I couldn't see someone I wanted to see when I was supposed to but I'd also understand enough to not be mad about it and still support that person, probably support them even more because of their solidarity with their friendships, etc.

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 09:23

Hollyholiday2 · 17/09/2026 09:02

I didn’t know you had to be left wing to take a stance against mass murder.

You haven’t answered my question have you?

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 09:25

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“Jews” hey? The antisemitism on this thread is clear to see 🙄

inamarina · 17/09/2026 09:28

ThisRedZebra · 17/09/2026 09:02

I find it wild how many comments describe opinion on this as political persuasion or a left to right issue. It's the mass slaughter of civilians in an oppressed state. That has been verified by leading authorities around the world. Maybe you don't want to think about it at a concert, fair enough, but the fact that it's a divisive take is unreal.

Similar happened when people protested the Vietnam war. But I had assumed most people looked back quite favourably now on those who stood up and were counted. Maybe not based on these comments

It's the mass slaughter of civilians in an oppressed state.

It’s also urban warfare in a densely populated area, triggered by a large scale terror attack committed by thousands of members of the local government and civilians.

In the subsequent war, that local government has also refused to provide any shelter for its civilians while hiding in tunnels themselves.
The fighters hide amongst civilians and make themselves indistinguishable by not wearing uniforms.

So what’s the point in painting the war in Gaza as purely an attack on civilians?

inamarina · 17/09/2026 09:32

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 09:25

“Jews” hey? The antisemitism on this thread is clear to see 🙄

Exactly. Not even trying to hide behind “Zionists” or “Israelis” anymore.

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 09:35

inamarina · 17/09/2026 09:32

Exactly. Not even trying to hide behind “Zionists” or “Israelis” anymore.

I know right? It’s so blatant. It feels like we are living in strange times.

inamarina · 17/09/2026 10:04

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 09:35

I know right? It’s so blatant. It feels like we are living in strange times.

The worst thing is that many people simply see some headlines or claims like in the pp above about how it’s ‘mass slaughter of civilians in an oppressed state’ and just run with it, without bothering to learn more about this very complex conflict.

People calling for a ‘Free Palestine” on social media rarely mention Hamas, Hezbollah or the influence of the Iranian government. People who say they’re simply criticising Zionism don’t always know what Zionism actually is. And yet they have their very strong opinions.

likelysuspect · 17/09/2026 10:33

Slightyamusedandsilly · 17/09/2026 07:35

Tutu was talking about people. Singers are people.

Use your critical thinking skills. If you have any.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 17/09/2026 10:34

likelysuspect · 17/09/2026 10:33

Use your critical thinking skills. If you have any.

If you want to witter away (excuse) logic, go for it.

OpheliaWasntMad · 17/09/2026 10:37

Orangeyoucan · 17/09/2026 09:25

“Jews” hey? The antisemitism on this thread is clear to see 🙄

Yes - it’s out in the open.

OpheliaWasntMad · 17/09/2026 10:37

inamarina · 17/09/2026 10:04

The worst thing is that many people simply see some headlines or claims like in the pp above about how it’s ‘mass slaughter of civilians in an oppressed state’ and just run with it, without bothering to learn more about this very complex conflict.

People calling for a ‘Free Palestine” on social media rarely mention Hamas, Hezbollah or the influence of the Iranian government. People who say they’re simply criticising Zionism don’t always know what Zionism actually is. And yet they have their very strong opinions.

Absolutely agree.

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