To feel sorry for Ed Sheeran.....

I know @Squeezingwildoranges it's just one of life's great conundrums. We are not going to let you leave but we are going to make life as absolutely shit and danger as possible if you stay.

Did you just link the NYPost and think you "get it" .

Ok so.
Good luck with that.

The poor Israelis have tried so hard to show the Palestinians in Gaza that they can have a much better life if they just leave. They’ve shown them that hospitals and schools are not safe as they might be blown up at any time. They’ve shown them that their homes are not safe because even if you’re asleep at night a massive bomb may be dropped on the building killing everyone, men, women and children. They’ve shown them that it is not even safe for the children to play football on the beach because a ship might bomb you. They’ve tried to show them that there is no electricity, water or food in Gaza. They’ve tried to show them that babies aren’t even safe because they might be shot in the head while breastfeeding. They’ve even tried to show them that even Israeli prisons aren’t safe because they might accidently be sexually violated to death. What more do the Israelis have to do to show the Palestinians how dangerous Gaza is. Surely they would be so much happier building a new life in the malaria infested swamps of South Sudan. Perhaps they would be happier going to Libya where there is a fortune to be made in the slave trade which is flourishing since Gaddafi was overthrown. Must be so frustrating for the Israelis that no one can see how kind they have been trying to show the Palestinians how much better life would be if they just voluntarily emigrated.

Definitely can’t read the Financial Times article though, says subscribe to unlock 🤷‍♀️

Ok if you believe that any non European news outlet must be anti Israel here’s the bbc https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68967397

they’re quoting the United Nations btw, who are saying that crossings are closed and humanitarian aid blocked (by Israel). It’s a fact that Israel have been controlling the border crossings with only brief openings for years. Israel don’t even deny it!

Mumsnet hides a post showing actual images from Nazi concentration camps. Oh dear.

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How strange.

I can open it direct from your quote and I don't subscribe to the Financial Times.

It's not behind paywall.

Come on - Al Jazeera, Middle East Eye, (can see your narrative) even HRW work off Hamas information but that article does not not dispute the FT one.

Honestly, does a wealthy rock star or film star's opinions make any difference to what is going on in the world? The whole of the celeb world in the US told everyone to vote for Kamala and she lost in a landslide. Then you had the trendy celebs backing Corbyn who also lost in a landslide.

Can’t read that behind the paywall. Can you read it or just the headline?

I can find links till the cows come home.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/04/01/no-exit-gaza

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20260921-israel-blocks-gaza-patients-from-leaving-for-treatment-for-2nd-day-over-jewish-holidays/

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/1/israel-closes-gazas-rafah-crossing-amid-attacks-on-iran

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-closes-rafah-crossing-checkpoint-west-bank-gaza-strip

But ultimately why should people leave. Obviously if they want to they should be allowed, but people only want to leave because of what Israel is doing.

There's also this video where he calls Jews 'dogs' and describes his 'excitement' at witnessing the atrocities of Oct 7th.

I'm sure many on here don't like X but that is him and it's a real video.

https://x.com/kikas6652/status/2101414389094011220

Pretty sure that disgusting terrorist/terrorist supporter was mentioned on here as a 'brave journalist'.

Strange how quite a few Palestinians have managed to leave Gaza during the war, and end up in the West like Ms Rachel's Gazan friend Motaz Azaiza.

The ugly truth about Gaza reporting that most media ignore

Sorry to disappoint but I haven't fallen for terrorist propaganda at all, and certainly do not believe there is a genocide in Gaza.

I was asking what you think, not what i believe.

I think I 'get it' with a bit more clarity than you, who seems to have decided that Palestinian children should stay to live and die in what you believe is a 'genocide' so they aren't 'ethnically cleansed' or rather granted safe refuge in a safe country as civilians in every other war is history have been, aside from this particular one!

I wonder what safe Jewish country Israelis could migrate to if under threat? Answer: zero. Whereas there are plenty of safe Muslim countries (about 98% in that region) Palestinians could migrate to, but nobody wants them. The truth is that since the state of Israel was established, there has been ceaseless war waged on it and Arab states used it as a pawn to display as an open wound because they simply cannot tolerate a piece of land the size of Wales not being Arab or Muslim. Now they rather like the idea of opening their countries to Western tourism, like Saudi Arabia, not knowing when the oil is going to run out and the Hamas terrorists funded by Iran have become a thorn in their sides

They are big questions for someone who 90 minutes ago didn't realize that Gaza was under a blockade preventing them from leaving.

I don't think all posters agree it's a genocide yet so you are very brave to say it is .

I'm not really sure what you are asking.
The facts are that there are very few ways Palestinians from Gaza can leave : medical evacuations, Visa sponsorships for study are two I know of but they still have to be approved by Israel.

Yes many Israeli politicians have spoken about a mass ethnic cleansing from the area but that is not actually in motion yet.

And yes Israel is still dropping bombs and killing civilians every day.

Do you get it now?

I asked who you think is preventing them?

On one hand Israel is keeping them trapped so they can genocide them, on the other Israel is trying to force them out thereby ethnically cleansing them.

Which is it?

Really?

This is from Oct 2023 btw.

Israel’s Netanyahu lobbied EU to pressure Egypt into accepting Gaza refugees

Why aren't Egypt calling for a safe corridor with international oversight, to allow Gazans to leave then?

Have they?

They seem more concerned about 'liquidating the Palestinian cause' (which has always been about annihilating Israel), than Palestinian lives.

Egypt's refusal to open Gaza border and humanitarian impact | The Jerusalem Post

Pretty sure it is Israel. 🤷‍♀️

israel controls the perimeter fence around Gaza and doesn’t let Palestinians leave. Israel closed the Rafeh crossing to Egypt a long time ago. People in the Gaza Strip are trapped. West Bank not much better. Israeli controlled checkpoints and restrictions for anyone who wants to leave.

I'm not talking for Palestinians. What a strange thing to say in this instance.

Did you not know that people from Gaza cannot leave Gaza freely. It is under a blockade from Israel which controls all entry and exit.

Give them the choice, fair enough.

Where is that safer place and what does it look like do you think?

I'd prefer it if you explained actually, as you seem to think you have the capacity to speak for Palestinians.

You’re wrong to say that mothers in a war zone shouldn’t even have the CHOICE to take their children to a safer place . ( Are you really suggesting that refugee camps are worse than staying in a war zone )
No one was talking about forced displacement.

Israel controls the land in Gaza that connects to Egypt. If Palestinians tried to cross into Egypt they would be shot and killed by Israel before they got anywhere near the border.

Ok instead of comments like that could you address the points I made and tell me why I'm wrong .