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Anti Semitism to increase after the government sides with Islamists

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mids2019 · 09/09/2026 06:25

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16115899/Miliband-accused-Jews-UK-danger-Chief-Rabbi-Tory-leader-react-Labour-sanctions-Israeli.OrlaNdo memorial

The government's decision to sanction Israel, a democratic ally in the ME, surely is a reward to all those that have spouted Jew hate on our city streets. If the government is willing to distance itself from Israel won't this be seen as further motivation for the radical Islmist left to continue their campaigns in the UK. It's a shameful moment and it will take a lot to rebuild relations with Israel.

Chief Rabbi and Tory leader react furiously to Labour sanctions

Britain's Chief Rabbi said a trade ban on Israeli settlements in the West Bank was 'truly a dark day for British Jews'.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16115899/Miliband-accused-Jews-UK-danger-Chief-Rabbi-Tory-leader-react-Labour-sanctions-Israeli.html

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StopMeStopMeStopMe · 09/09/2026 23:30

Neverstopwondering · 09/09/2026 23:06

So only 33% completely agree according to that. I am actually surprised thought judging by the comments you seeit would be more. Seems like the British public majority are not totally in line with Red Ed about this.

Genuinely very surprising

It’s 33% completely approve and 19% somewhat approve, total 52% approval

versus 10% completely disapprove and 7% somewhat disapprove, total 17% disapproval.

3 to 1 in favour of those with an opinion

I’m not sure how you are interpreting that as the public not being in line with the sanctions.

What on earth is going on with the Reform voters though??? They’ve been listening to Richard Tice, haven’t they? Well, and Farage of course.

Neverstopwondering · 09/09/2026 23:10

dustabsorber · 09/09/2026 22:54

Why can't we just be Brits together, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu and
atheist and leave the foreigners to it?

Think the average brit does exactly that

Government and a smallish number of people not so much

Neverstopwondering · 09/09/2026 23:06

StopMeStopMeStopMe · 09/09/2026 19:09

Latest YouGov poll - 52% of Britons approve of the government's decision to ban the import of goods from contested Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

So only 33% completely agree according to that. I am actually surprised thought judging by the comments you seeit would be more. Seems like the British public majority are not totally in line with Red Ed about this.

Genuinely very surprising

dustabsorber · 09/09/2026 22:54

Why can't we just be Brits together, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu and
atheist and leave the foreigners to it?

StopMeStopMeStopMe · 09/09/2026 22:45

TooMatchaMatcha · 09/09/2026 22:33

This is actually a useful litmus test for whether pro-Israel posters and commentators have any ethical compass whatsoever. Anyone opposed to this can safely be ignored on the Middle East altogether.

Good point. It’s pretty stark isn’t it? Absolutely nothing to do with the survival of Israel or safety of Israelis and completely unjustifiable behaviour. If people are defending settler violence and condemning our government for taking a stand against it, their moral character is plain to see.

TooMatchaMatcha · 09/09/2026 22:33

This is actually a useful litmus test for whether pro-Israel posters and commentators have any ethical compass whatsoever. Anyone opposed to this can safely be ignored on the Middle East altogether.

StopMeStopMeStopMe · 09/09/2026 21:47

user1471453601 · 09/09/2026 21:15

Am I alone in raising an eyebrow when a seemingly first time poster posts quite contentious post and then doesn't return to the thread?

It makes me wonder what their intentions were in posting when they appear not to want to engage in discussion.

Definitely not a first time poster. I think it’s more likely that the replies haven’t been what OP was hoping for and maybe she’s not got an answer to people’s criticisms of her post.

JacknDiane · 09/09/2026 21:30

Im guessing they haven't came back as their trusted allies somehow have missed this thread and the majority here don't agree with them. Usually the pro Israeli government contingency are all over these threads with their never ending cries of antisemitism if you so much as show a shread of sympathy for the people of Palestine or the west bank.
Im just wondering where they all are?

JacknDiane · 09/09/2026 21:25

user1471453601 · 09/09/2026 21:15

Am I alone in raising an eyebrow when a seemingly first time poster posts quite contentious post and then doesn't return to the thread?

It makes me wonder what their intentions were in posting when they appear not to want to engage in discussion.

@mids2019 isn't a first time poster at all. You must have missed the many many threads on the conflict in gaza whilst it was ongoing. @mids2019 was ferocious in their support of the Israeli government.

VoiceFromThePit · 09/09/2026 21:18

OP you speak nonsense.

user1471453601 · 09/09/2026 21:15

Am I alone in raising an eyebrow when a seemingly first time poster posts quite contentious post and then doesn't return to the thread?

It makes me wonder what their intentions were in posting when they appear not to want to engage in discussion.

StopMeStopMeStopMe · 09/09/2026 21:07

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 09/09/2026 20:43

Given what the US and allies (including us) did in Afghanistan after a handful of attacks, I can't see how we can criticize Israel for reacting like this to Gaza after not the worst atrocity they committed, but the years of attacks beforehand.

I really don't like Netenyahu. But even he isn't on the same level of evil as Hamas. Not that the leaders of Hamas are in Gaza any more of course - they provoked a predictable reaction then scarpered, leaving the poorer people to suffer the consequences.

I wish Israel would stop now - in fact I wish they'd stopped a long time ago. But the heaviest blame for the suffering in Gaza lies with Hamas.

Our government should be siding with the only country in the region which is a genuine democracy and gives its citizens decent rights, not with a group of people so violent that their Muslim allies and neighbours try to avoid letting them in.

Our government should be siding with the only country in the region which is a genuine democracy and gives its citizens decent rights, not with a group of people so violent that their Muslim allies and neighbours try to avoid letting them in.

That’s a bit of a strange statement. I mean we all know the scale of deaths in this conflict and what proportion have been inflicted by Israelis on Palestinians and vice versa. Yet it is the Palestinians you characterise as “so violent.”

Do you not consider the killings of men, women and children by Israel as violence?

BiteSizeByzantine · 09/09/2026 20:58

mids2019 · 09/09/2026 06:25

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16115899/Miliband-accused-Jews-UK-danger-Chief-Rabbi-Tory-leader-react-Labour-sanctions-Israeli.OrlaNdo memorial

The government's decision to sanction Israel, a democratic ally in the ME, surely is a reward to all those that have spouted Jew hate on our city streets. If the government is willing to distance itself from Israel won't this be seen as further motivation for the radical Islmist left to continue their campaigns in the UK. It's a shameful moment and it will take a lot to rebuild relations with Israel.

Imagine trying to get a victim angle out of this one. Anyone can see what the settlers are like and how they behave.

SulkingInTheCatio · 09/09/2026 20:55

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/09/2026 19:47

I was very pleased to hear Ed Milliband's announcement. It's about time.

I thought he was very coherent and correct in what he said in a bbc interview this morning. Ultimately the settlements break international law. It wouldn’t be right to sit back and watch that happen.

UK Jews and let’s face it even a lot of Israeli Jews are not responsible for this. But Israel needs to be held accountable for facilitating and encouraging it. There will be no chance of peace and a two state solution if this continues.

Ed Milliband was quite clear that this is nothing to do with U.K. Jewish people and he believes this stance doesn’t increase a threat to them.

Theres a lot of things which the U.K. has done which could be said to increase the general risk to U.K. citizens but it has still been the right thing to do…..supporting Ukraine for one.

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 09/09/2026 20:43

Given what the US and allies (including us) did in Afghanistan after a handful of attacks, I can't see how we can criticize Israel for reacting like this to Gaza after not the worst atrocity they committed, but the years of attacks beforehand.

I really don't like Netenyahu. But even he isn't on the same level of evil as Hamas. Not that the leaders of Hamas are in Gaza any more of course - they provoked a predictable reaction then scarpered, leaving the poorer people to suffer the consequences.

I wish Israel would stop now - in fact I wish they'd stopped a long time ago. But the heaviest blame for the suffering in Gaza lies with Hamas.

Our government should be siding with the only country in the region which is a genuine democracy and gives its citizens decent rights, not with a group of people so violent that their Muslim allies and neighbours try to avoid letting them in.

StopMeStopMeStopMe · 09/09/2026 19:55

iwishihadaname · 09/09/2026 19:31

Israel government are telling Argentina that they should get falklands Israel government is not to be trusted and are no longer a friend of the uk

Exactly. It’s absolutely bizarre that at the same time as Israel is trying to provoke a standoff over the Falklands, everyone is telling us the UK won’t survive if the Israeli’s withdraw defence intelligence liaison. It’s all so confused.

imanastronaut · 09/09/2026 19:51

Says who?

You cannot predict this

StopMeStopMeStopMe · 09/09/2026 19:51

backformoreofthesame · 09/09/2026 19:22

it has greatly saddened me that the British Jewish community hasn’t welcomed the government’s stance

I’ve seen quite a few tweets in support of the sanctions from British jews on Twitter, including some Jewish organisations.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/09/senior-uk-rabbis-come-out-in-support-of-sanctions-on-israeli-settlements

Senior UK rabbis come out in support of sanctions on Israeli settlements

Spiritual leaders stress diversity of views within Jewish community and warn against inaction on settler violence

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/09/senior-uk-rabbis-come-out-in-support-of-sanctions-on-israeli-settlements

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/09/2026 19:47

I was very pleased to hear Ed Milliband's announcement. It's about time.

LandLaser · 09/09/2026 19:44

backformoreofthesame · 09/09/2026 19:22

it has greatly saddened me that the British Jewish community hasn’t welcomed the government’s stance

What, all of them?

iwishihadaname · 09/09/2026 19:31

Israel government are telling Argentina that they should get falklands Israel government is not to be trusted and are no longer a friend of the uk

backformoreofthesame · 09/09/2026 19:22

it has greatly saddened me that the British Jewish community hasn’t welcomed the government’s stance

StopMeStopMeStopMe · 09/09/2026 19:09

Latest YouGov poll - 52% of Britons approve of the government's decision to ban the import of goods from contested Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

Anti Semitism to increase after the government sides with Islamists
BerthaPotts · 09/09/2026 16:12

The Israeli government have brought this on themselves by failing to act against settler terrorism and tacitly aiding and abetting their terrorism. Even the US is starting to have a hard time defending it.

StopMeStopMeStopMe · 09/09/2026 13:53

What’s your evidence OP that the sanctions are “a reward to all those that have spouted Jew hate” and not a legitimate response to Israel’s Illegal actions in line with the views of the majority of the British people?

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