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Iranian clerics call for assassination of Trump and Netanyahu

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Twiglets1 · 30/06/2026 20:42

Article in The Telegraph reports that Iran’s most senior clerics have called for the assassination of Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu.

In a 10-point statement, the Assembly of Experts said the killing of “the criminal American president” and “the wicked prime minister of the Zionist regime” was a religious duty.

Assassinating the two leaders – whom they described as mahdour al-dam, or deserving of death – “must not be neglected under any circumstances”.

In their call for Mr Trump and Mr Netanyahu to be assassinated, the clerics wrote that avenging the blood of Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader who was killed on the first day of the war, remained “paramount”.

“It is obligatory upon any duty-bound person who gains access to these criminals to send them to hell,” they added.

The language read like a religious edict but stopped short of a formal fatwa, which in Shia Islam is issued by an individual cleric in his own name rather than by a group.

The Assembly of Experts is an 88-member body of clerics constitutionally tasked with choosing and supervising the supreme leader.

The statement shows how fractured the establishment has become.

Only about 63 of the body’s members signed it, and the Assembly’s secretariat distanced itself hours later.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/06/30/iranian-clerics-call-for-trump-assassination/

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Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 18:57

Which is it @swimsong ?

You're telling me I want the clerics' statement to be discussed with no context whatsover.

While telling Dairy that I'm claiming the motivation, theme and purpose of the thread is to agree that religious leaders should not call for the assassination of political leaders.

If you're going to talk for me at least keep the narrative the same.

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swimsong · 01/07/2026 18:37

dairydebris · 01/07/2026 16:46

Another thread that was started about something other than, but has ended up all about Israel.
Must be so odd to be so obsessed with something one dislikes so much.

Well no, the OP is claiming the motivation, theme and purpose of the thread is to agree that religious leaders should not call for the assassination of political leaders. So citing the speeches of rabbis is very much on topic.

swimsong · 01/07/2026 18:26

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 14:38

I was responding specifically to a poster pointing out Trump's rhetoric that “a whole civilisation will die tonight.”

No we don't need to take that seriously because it didn't happen and Trump does make a huge amount of idle threats so we know.

Iran has threatened to destroy the US and Israel too. But this thread isn't about those generic threats, it's more about the call the Iranian clerics made for the assassination of Trump and Netanyahu as a religious duty.

What you appear to be missing is that it is pretty evil yes to use religion as an excuse to incite others to commit murder. In my opinion anyway.

So you want the clerics' statement to be discussed with no context whatsover. What a completely pointless exercise.

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 18:24

Secretseverywhere · 01/07/2026 18:05

Thinking about this it’s probably riskiest for the 25 who didn’t sign it, Iran not being super keen on dissenting opinions. The joys of choosing between (I’m guessing) a high risk of a torture session sometime soon and a moderate to low risk of Trump dropping a missile on your house.

Risky for both those that did sign it and those that didn't, I agree.

They should have stuck to discussing religious matters.

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Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 18:21

swimsong · 01/07/2026 18:09

He just assassinated the Iranian leader. How have you missed that? He called for his troops to do just that and more - with no war declared.

It was the start of war and there was a huge lead up to it with the IRGC murdering thousands of their own civilians - how have you missed that?

The Iranian leader wasn't just killed because Trump considered him to be criminal. He doesn't just assassinate leaders he considers to be criminals as I said before, or there would be many more leaders getting killed around the world. And also - Trump has a job as a President of the US not as a religious cleric telling others to assassinate world leaders as their religious duty.

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Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 18:12

JadeHare · 01/07/2026 17:46

Because you have now tried to imply that this thread has descended into an Israel bashing thread. It’s not bashing Israel when Israel are now equally involved in making threats.

It has descended into an Israel bashing thread. We're not even talking about the Iranian clerics anymore just the usual bickering and attempts to move the focus from ever criticising Iran to ... just more about Israel and also the US.

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swimsong · 01/07/2026 18:09

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 06:31

Do you agree then with assassinations of other world leaders that have done things many consider criminal? There will be quite a few of them. Putin for one but many others of course.

What if Trump decided to assassinate world leaders he considers to be criminal?

Would people be saying, to be fair .... or would they be saying who does he think he is to call for the assassination of other countries leaders?

He just assassinated the Iranian leader. How have you missed that? He called for his troops to do just that and more - with no war declared.

Secretseverywhere · 01/07/2026 18:05

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 06:32

The strange thing is that presumably the names of the 63 are known.

Very risky behaviour.

Thinking about this it’s probably riskiest for the 25 who didn’t sign it, Iran not being super keen on dissenting opinions. The joys of choosing between (I’m guessing) a high risk of a torture session sometime soon and a moderate to low risk of Trump dropping a missile on your house.

Eyesopenwideawake · 01/07/2026 17:54

Bunnyofhope · 01/07/2026 17:34

Are people on this thread really saying they would support the assassination of the leaders of two of our closest allies? And the only two of our allies who would have the skills or resources to support us if the UK was threatened? Fuck sake, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

Israeli is one of the UK's closest allies? Really? The USA was once but the world order has changed a bit recently.

Do you remember Trump threatening to invade a NATO ally?

RedTagAlan · 01/07/2026 17:53

BunfightBetty · 01/07/2026 17:49

Well you’re opening it up about fundamental Christian pastors. But I’m not sure why.

To make a point that it is standard fare for so many religious people.

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/07/2026 17:50

Iranian clerics calling for assassinations ... nothing to see here!

Exactly! They've been doing it for decades. They're always at it.🙃

BunfightBetty · 01/07/2026 17:49

RedTagAlan · 01/07/2026 17:30

Nobody. And I don't think anyone has said Iranian clerics calling for death is good.

The conversation is just opening up I think. Into general religious of today calling for people to be killed.

Well you’re opening it up about fundamental Christian pastors. But I’m not sure why.

RedTagAlan · 01/07/2026 17:48

Secretseverywhere · 01/07/2026 17:44

I don’t know an awful lot about Iranian clerics but my understanding is that only hardline loyalists get elected and the reformist/ moderate clerics are vetted out. It would make sense that the rhetoric would reflect the make up of the assembly.

I suppose it is effectively a mouthpiece of the state but they can say things that would be controversial for the government to openly state. Plausible deniability whilst still getting your message across.

Well they are a theocracy. Everything they do is supposed to be about their religion.

Qualitypinnacle · 01/07/2026 17:47

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 06:31

Do you agree then with assassinations of other world leaders that have done things many consider criminal? There will be quite a few of them. Putin for one but many others of course.

What if Trump decided to assassinate world leaders he considers to be criminal?

Would people be saying, to be fair .... or would they be saying who does he think he is to call for the assassination of other countries leaders?

He has!

JadeHare · 01/07/2026 17:46

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:37

I wasn't even aware of it when I started the thread but after you raised it I agreed that Katz was very wrong to make a retaliatory death threat. It could be harmful to the peace process in a similar way that the Iranian clerics call for assassination could be harmful to the peace process.

I haven't ignored the mention of Katz so why are you implying I'm trying to ignore it?

Because you have now tried to imply that this thread has descended into an Israel bashing thread. It’s not bashing Israel when Israel are now equally involved in making threats.

Rothburypixie · 01/07/2026 17:46

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:43

But this thread is about them being assassinated not dying peacefully in their sleep.

Oh please 😂

Secretseverywhere · 01/07/2026 17:44

RedTagAlan · 01/07/2026 16:15

I looked it up, and Iranian clerics have been saying these things for years. I am not saying it should be ignored. But they seem to not be very good at it.

And yes, I know the 20 Iranian terror plots uncovered in the UK was about them wanting to kill dissidents. But that was the Iranian Government so far as I am aware. Not clerics. And the plots were foiled.

And yes, I know about Salman Rushdie too. That was Khomeini.

But here we are talking about POTUS and the Israeli pm.

I don’t know an awful lot about Iranian clerics but my understanding is that only hardline loyalists get elected and the reformist/ moderate clerics are vetted out. It would make sense that the rhetoric would reflect the make up of the assembly.

I suppose it is effectively a mouthpiece of the state but they can say things that would be controversial for the government to openly state. Plausible deniability whilst still getting your message across.

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:43

Rothburypixie · 01/07/2026 17:40

I said people won’t care when they die, nothing about assassination.

But this thread is about them being assassinated not dying peacefully in their sleep.

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Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:43

Bunnyofhope · 01/07/2026 17:34

Are people on this thread really saying they would support the assassination of the leaders of two of our closest allies? And the only two of our allies who would have the skills or resources to support us if the UK was threatened? Fuck sake, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

They don't seem to give a shit do they? The US and Israel are enemies not allies to many on this board and you see that across every thread.

You get a wider range of views on other boards so I'm guessing you don't come to this Conflict in the Middle East one very often.

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Rothburypixie · 01/07/2026 17:40

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:38

I think by saying you won't care if they get assassinated it follows that you don't have a problem with it.

I said people won’t care when they die, nothing about assassination.

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:38

Rothburypixie · 01/07/2026 17:37

I haven’t seen anyone say that? Just that they won’t care when they die

I think by saying you won't care if they get assassinated it follows that you don't have a problem with it.

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RedTagAlan · 01/07/2026 17:38

JadeHare · 01/07/2026 17:25

I think the point being made is that just because you are supposedly “religious”, it doesn’t stop you from making death threats. Across the board.

That's for sure.

It's the basic premise of so many religions. Christianity is based on they go up, others burn in hell.

When Evangelical Christians in mega churches pray for the Rapture, they are essentially praying for all non Christians to be killed. Just today on these boards I had a Christian tell me I would likely burn.

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:37

JadeHare · 01/07/2026 17:31

Israel have been brought into it because Katz made a retaliatory death threat to the Iranian leader. Or are you going to ignore that small problem?

I wasn't even aware of it when I started the thread but after you raised it I agreed that Katz was very wrong to make a retaliatory death threat. It could be harmful to the peace process in a similar way that the Iranian clerics call for assassination could be harmful to the peace process.

I haven't ignored the mention of Katz so why are you implying I'm trying to ignore it?

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Rothburypixie · 01/07/2026 17:37

Bunnyofhope · 01/07/2026 17:34

Are people on this thread really saying they would support the assassination of the leaders of two of our closest allies? And the only two of our allies who would have the skills or resources to support us if the UK was threatened? Fuck sake, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

I haven’t seen anyone say that? Just that they won’t care when they die

Bunnyofhope · 01/07/2026 17:34

Are people on this thread really saying they would support the assassination of the leaders of two of our closest allies? And the only two of our allies who would have the skills or resources to support us if the UK was threatened? Fuck sake, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.