It’s kicking off in Dubai again FlightRadar24

Oh yes
Israel is flattening southern Lebanon and has been throughout the ceasefire
they don’t stop just because others do

Why not use northern Israel for that. Far lower population density there than southern Lebanon
but of course it’s not actually about a buffer zone
Enter…land grab

In the small number of interviews I've read [in reputable newspapers] people have been frightened angry and hungry - and anti being bombed but who in their position would be entirely open about about how they feel

So as I said who knows

The UAE and other Middle Eastern countries were under the impression that they would somehow be safe as they have done some pretty large crypto deals with Trump and have US bases in their countries. I would think that they are seriously pissed off with the big fat orange psychopath, totally fucking useless. But they and others have fallen for his bullshit rhetoric.

So yet again the bloody yanks are screwing over the whole world, it was their useless banking etiquette that caused the 2008 banking crash. They honestly don’t give a flying fart about anyone other than themselves, especially the current government which is full of businessmen and billionaires, barely any of Trump’s cabinet has previously worked in government.

Most of Trumps money when running for presidency came from very rich billionaires who wanted Trump to join up with Bibi. The Billionaire Israelis Zionists in America are very powerful,I’m not sure that Trump dared to refuse after taking their money whilst campaigning 🤷‍♀️

I’ve recently seen a video of the late Charlie Kirk stating that America had no reason to attack Iran, it’s at Bibis behest as he’s wanted this for years. Even though there’s a ceasefire Israel is still bombing Lebanon. The IDF are there and been seen plundering peoples homes, absolutely abhorrent 🥺

Do you not think the fact that the Iranian regime have blocked their own citizens from using the internet, points to the Iranian people not being happy with the regime? Do you think we’d be happy with our government if it murdered 30000+ of us in a two-week window?

They do, and trump knows hes fucking everyone off by the ships not being able to pass through safely so now hes trying to passively backtrack. Im not surprised the Iranians have retaliated. Trump got more than he bargained for this time round and is now destroying world economy.

And why was there a ceasefire? Because he US started a war of choice.
Iran closed off the straight to the US and some other countries in response to the attack. The straight was open to all before the illegal war started - that is common knowledge.
He was advised by senior military personnel that this would happen but chose to go ahead and now his family are reaping the financial rewards, while everyone else will struggle extreme financial difficulties as food and petrol prices soar.

Can you tell me where you’re getting your news from?

Oo yes will do

I've seen this said before but wonder how anyone can know this as the Iranian people are enduring their 66th day of internet blackout - so there is no recent polling to elicit their views

I understand that Iranians living outside of Iran tend to favour the overthrow of the IRGC but their situation/experiences are very different from from those living under Trumps war

So who knows

I would like to see how that was polled.

Even if it has to be by Trump ? Have they seen what is happening in Venezuela? No political change, a Trump puppet in charge, and your oil gets stolen.

How do you 'overthrow' the IRGC? I don't support the Iranian regime in any way but an Iranian acquaintance told me that while they have problems with their government, an attack against their country unites then against the attacker. I understand that other opinions exist.
I just feel sorry for the ordinary people in Iran who are dying and suffering needlessly in this war.

Brilliant 🤩

oil?? This all we have now.

Anyway with all the obsession with the Straits of Hormuz maybe we should also consider other aspects:

https://youtube.com/shorts/RUrfx_OMOok?si=ZxIg91_1GANqgAeE

You know the majority of Iranians welcome the overthrowing of the IRGC ? Even if it has to be by Trump ?

.The Strait of Hormuz is not exclusively Iranian territory; it is shared territorial water divided between Iran and Oman, governed by international law.

At its narrowest point, overlapping 12-nautical-mile claims mean all vessels pass through Iranian or Omani territorial waters. Iran controls the northern side, while Oman controls the southern side. 1, 2, 3,
Shared Jurisdiction: The shipping lanes are primarily within Omani territorial waters and partially within Iranian territorial waters.

That's certainly true, but it seems very dangerous for everyone else to be prepared to condone it. That's the end of international law, basically.

I don't think either side is too fussed about international law. The reality is Iran is saying that the Straits belong to them and if anyone thinks differently then what are they going to do about it.

You think it's that simple?
What about territorial water, UNCLOS, uneven depth of water at the Strait of Hormuz?
US and Israel attacked Iran, Iran responded, waging asymmetric war, and realising they had an Ace card in blockading SoH. Trump decided he wanted a joint venture with Iran, charging tolls (when passage was 100% free before the War). Iran said no, but free passage for friendly nations. Trump not happy that he couldn't add toll money to stolen Venezuelan money in his Qatari bank account.

Trump then decided to blockade Iran's blockade but some ships were still getting through, so Trump turned pirate and captured a vessel or two, declaring all the oil was his (during the ceasefire mind). Trump then turned humanitarian and decided that even though the US had already won the war, decimated the Iranian navy, army and obiterated their nuclear capability, he wanted their nuclear dust (because he didn't know how to find an off ramp for the bloody mess he had caused).

So he decided to unblock the blockade of the blockade he had caused, by using the bigly might of the US Navy. They would 'escort' vessels through the Strait, or maybe just advise ships on safe waters to traverse. Iran said, if you do that you will be in direct violation of the ceasefire. Trump then decided to play chicken in the Gulf, and did not respond to Iranian warnings to stop. Gun play ensues.

Then Iran goes back to asymetric warfare by attacking UAE, Trump's cheerleader. So we had Schrodinger's War, Strait, blockade and ceasefire.

Thank you, I'll take my prize in oil shares.

But that isn't how international law works. That's why I compared it to the Starits of Gibraltar and of Dover. And even if the US is found to have attacked Iran illegally, that doesn't give Iran the right to block the Straits to many other countries that are not actively involved in that attack.

Not sure where you are getting your news from but here's a simple explanation:

So there was a ceasefire and now there's not a ceasefire.
What caused this change was the US attempting or succeeding in transiting the Straits of Hormuz.

Iran didn't like this because they claim that the Straits are under their control, so retaliated against neighbouring countries.

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The straight was open to all before Iran was attacked!

They have attacked US owned buildings and military bases - that’s what they said they would do if they were to be illegally attacked by the U.S.
The U.S. came in and bombed a school in the first couple of days. How can you justify that?

Out of interest do you think Iran is justified then for attacking neighbouring countries because the US is sending ships through the Straits of Hormuz?

Iran thinks differently and says the Straits in their entirety belong to them.
The US thinks differently and says they are an international waterway.
So the US tries to cross them and Iran says you can't do that.

Hardly a tantrum. They’ve been attacked illegally and have right to defend themselves.
How would you feel if the U.S. dropped a bomb on your child’s school and killed yhem
and over 200 of their fellow pupils. Would you throw a tantrum?