Terrorist incident in London

For anyone who thinks that the fact that the man first attacked a fellow Muslim suggests that the other stabbings were not antisemitic, why did nobody apply the same logic to Adam Lanza who killed his own mother before going on to murder random children at Sandy Hook? Did the first targeted killing somehow make him NOT a school shooter?

Of course they didn’t. Yet again, there’s a different standard for anything to do with Jews.
(I can’t believe I didn’t really see this before Oct 7th)

These attacks were abhorrent. Some people seem keen to think the rise in anti semitism is all the Israel's Government's fault.

I cba to find a link but some woman was on Jeremy Vine declaring that we should examine what is the cause behind the hatred. I don't get it at all, so her theory would surely be if folk ran around stabbing Muslims well it's because it is to get back at what Hamas & co are doing in the ME silly! Reprisals understandable .

We don't <or should not> attack innocent people in this country to get back at conflict in others.

You are just choosing to be ignorant now

It IS antisemitism not “could be” antisemitism 🤦‍♀️🙄

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38982283/julia-hartley-brewer-starmer-jews-suffering-do-something/

Our terrorism likelihood level has been raised to severe because of threats to one community Jews. It has to be said because of the tardiness of the government Jewish lives are under grave threat in the UK and it seems like we are just waiting for the next attack which is an appalling state to be in. For too long the government has prevaricated over whether chants such as 'globalise the intfada' is hate crime......no longer it is.

We have the green party openly putting up anti Semitic candidates in our communities which is a bleak prospect for all those against the hate that continues to spread. Enough is enough.

Yes and the number of antisemitic attacks against Jewish people seems to be increasing.

So Jewish people are almost 9 times more likely to be the victim of a religious hate crime than Muslims are?

Wow.

Actual crime figures are likely to be under reported generally.

But overlooking that as you say, Muslim adults are only the most likely to be a victim of religiously motivated hate crime than Jewish adults because there are lots more Muslims in England and Wales than Jewish adults.

That's why it's better really to look at the statistics per 10,000 population. It shows the real picture which is that Jews are proportionally far more likely to be victims of religiously motivated hate crime.

From your link
”police recorded crime figures do not currently provide reliable trends in hate crime”
but if we are to overlook that, they said
”The CSEW estimated that 0.1% of adults were victims of a religiously motivated hate crime in the 12 months prior to interview. Muslim adults (0.8%) were the most likely to be a victim of religiously motivated hate crime, followed by Jewish adults (0.4%; Appendix Table 17).”

Sorry I forgot to add the link to the above government statistics;

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-year-ending-march-2025/hate-crime-england-and-wales-year-ending-march-2025

There are government statistics on what has been reported and which group suffers the most hate crimes.

In England & Wales in the year ending March 2025, Jewish people suffered 106 religious hate crimes per 10,000 population.

This compares to Muslims suffering 12 religious hate crimes per 10,000 population.

Christians and No religion were both 0 per 10,000 population.

The numbers of Jewish people suffering religious hate crimes will have only increased over the year from April 2025 to March 2026, along with the general rise in antisemitism we see in society.

I find myself agreeing with her too.

Keir Starmer better get off the fence, the splinters must be killing him.

I can’t speak to the truth of this because how do we know what has or hasn’t been reported? All communities experience individuals having breakdowns in their MH. I am sure that those will have lead to violence in many instances and that Jews are not magically insulated from that by their religion any more than Christian’s, Hindu or indeed atheists are. There have never been daily bombings by Muslims with MH problems “on the Tube, or restaurants, or on the street”.

This is why I think it is unwise to conflate the conflict in the Middle East with this individuals horrifying attack.

Well they also said the guy shot at the Synagogue was shot by the police, as if the police just turned up and shot someone for no reason!

I never thought I'd say this, but I agree with Kemi Badenoch.
Strange times.

Agreed. I think if I’d realised how ineffective KS is and how Kemi badenoch would be the voice of common sense I would have voted conservative last time

I might have known that a bunch of bleeding hearts are focusing on the police . Apprehending a man randomly stabbing strangers? How very dare they use force! They should have spoken kindly to him before letting him go on his merry way.

Of course the actions of Israel don't cause antisemitism. They just provide antisemites with a convinient excuse.

So the man (despite violent MH history disclosed by police) might/could/may have been targeting Jews based on the fact his victims were Jews in a predominantly Jewish area. (FWIW I too think that’s likely, but I don’t think it’s proved) And that antisemitism might/could/may have been caused by Israel and the US attacking multiple countries/peoples in the Middle East. While I see the possible cause and effect in what way is this part of a discussion about Conflict in the Middle East?

Does it impact the conflict at all? Does it justify the bombing?

I don't know. Some antisemites are using the war in Gaza as an excuse I suppose.

So what’s the connection with Conflict Middle East?