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Rising anti swmtism in the UK....do we really need to crack down I n the Iran regime Hamas supporting mobs?

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mids2019 · 20/04/2026 06:42

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyxxjgdn94o

It is now being increasingly reported that there are multiple threats against Jews in this country as a result of wars in the middle east. How do we go about defusing tensions? Should the police take a more active role? Should we look at social media more closely for stirring up hate? Maybe we should be educating children more about anti semttism in schools as well as importantly saying the right of Israel to exist as a state. The tide needs to turn.

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Spat at, threatened and kidnapped: British Jews tell of rising antisemitism

British Jews have described to BBC Panorama how they are experiencing a rise in antisemitism.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyxxjgdn94o

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Twiglets1 · 20/04/2026 17:21

Children could be taught that Israel is a legitimate state so has as much right to exist as other legitimate states.

FloralDeerPattern · 20/04/2026 16:16

Maybe we should be educating children more about anti semttism in schools as well as importantly saying the right of Israel to exist as a state.

I'm not sure that educating children on things that aren't true would be the right thing to do? No countries have 'a right to exist' and exceptionalising Israel(isn't that antisemitism in itself?) and pretending that there is some special right that pertains to Israel isn't the way to go here. You could teach children that everyone has the right to self determination and about the prohibition of territorial conquest and annexation under international law though. Sticking to facts rather than made up propaganda talking points is probably more suited to Western education systems.

Ihatetomatoes · 20/04/2026 13:50

Sskka · 20/04/2026 09:52

I don’t see that there’s anything anyone can do about this. The article doesn’t even attempt to identify where it’s coming from or who’s doing it. There’s some vague mention of war in the Middle East so we can hope that stops I suppose, but Britain’s not involved so we can’t actually do anything about it.

Just one of those things. Hopefully it goes away.

If it doesn't 'go away' do we tolerate a time in attacks on Jewish people in the UK. We cannot just ignore attacks in this country, hatred doesn't belong here and shouldn't be tolerated.

Sskka · 20/04/2026 09:52

I don’t see that there’s anything anyone can do about this. The article doesn’t even attempt to identify where it’s coming from or who’s doing it. There’s some vague mention of war in the Middle East so we can hope that stops I suppose, but Britain’s not involved so we can’t actually do anything about it.

Just one of those things. Hopefully it goes away.

Twiglets1 · 20/04/2026 09:47

Obeseandashamed · 20/04/2026 08:59

Hi @Twiglets1i think you misunderstood - I agree that attacking or intimidating is disgusting and said so.

The only aspect of the previous posters comment I disagreed with was the part about people in the U.K having no part to play in the IDF.

Thank you for the source. "Lots" is subjective so I wanted to see the actual numbers.

A Freedom of Information request obtained by Declassified UK found that 1,686 British-Israelis and 383 people with British, Israeli and another nationality were serving in the IDF as of March 2025.

In 2024, the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO) said: “The UK recognises the right of British nationals with more than one nationality to serve in the legitimately recognised armed forces of their additional nationalities. We are aware of reports of UK citizens travelling to fight for the Israel Defence Force (IDF), but the Government does not estimate the numbers of those who have done so.”

I think it is understandable that some Jewish people with dual nationality were driven to go to join the IDF to defend Israel after the horrors of 7/10/23. Whatever you or anyone else thinks of the IDF, they are a legitimate army in the eyes of the Foreign Office.

And the vast majority of Jewish people in the UK of course did not join the IDF. Attacking or intimidating Jewish people is disgusting, best just to leave it at that in my opinion.

www.standard.co.uk/news/2-000-uk-nationals-served-in-idf-during-gaza-war-b1270741.html

Obeseandashamed · 20/04/2026 08:59

Twiglets1 · 20/04/2026 08:29

I honestly find it hard to understand how anyone can disagree with the statement that To attack or intimidate them for things they didn’t do is disgusting.

Are there really "lots" of Jewish people living in the UK who go and serve in the IDF then return to the U.K? That sounds unlikely to me so I would want to see official figures before accepting that this is true. Within Israel of course, most young people do join the IDF at some point, that is because it is the law that they must do so (compulsory national service apart from for Haradi Jews until very recently).

Re your point that hate crimes often go unrecorded as such, I am sure that is true. But that will apply to people from all religious/ethnic groups including Jewish people so I'm not sure how it is relevant. Hate crimes are under reported generally, yes I agree.

Hi @Twiglets1i think you misunderstood - I agree that attacking or intimidating is disgusting and said so.

The only aspect of the previous posters comment I disagreed with was the part about people in the U.K having no part to play in the IDF.

Rising anti swmtism in the UK....do we really need to crack down I n the Iran regime Hamas supporting mobs?
Twiglets1 · 20/04/2026 08:29

Obeseandashamed · 20/04/2026 08:12

Antisemitism in the UK shouldn’t be tolerated at all. Agreed. There is no place for any hate crime in the U.K.
However strongly individuals may feel about the Gaza war, Jewish people living in the UK are not the IDF. To attack or intimidate them for things they didn’t do is disgusting. This is where i begin to disagree. There are lots of Jewish people living in the UK who go and serve in the IDF then return to the U.K. However to attack or intimidate people is disgusting.
Religiously motivated hate crimes are really always just an excuse for racists and bullies to do what they enjoy doing. Agreed - the only thing I would say is that there are lots of hate crimes that are not recorded as hate crimes. E.g in the mid 00’s when I had a brick thrown at my window by a group of young lads. When I went to look at what had just happened, they shouted 'Pki' (I’m not) but it wasn’t a hate crime as the verbal insult came after the action.*

I honestly find it hard to understand how anyone can disagree with the statement that To attack or intimidate them for things they didn’t do is disgusting.

Are there really "lots" of Jewish people living in the UK who go and serve in the IDF then return to the U.K? That sounds unlikely to me so I would want to see official figures before accepting that this is true. Within Israel of course, most young people do join the IDF at some point, that is because it is the law that they must do so (compulsory national service apart from for Haradi Jews until very recently).

Re your point that hate crimes often go unrecorded as such, I am sure that is true. But that will apply to people from all religious/ethnic groups including Jewish people so I'm not sure how it is relevant. Hate crimes are under reported generally, yes I agree.

Obeseandashamed · 20/04/2026 08:12

Twiglets1 · 20/04/2026 07:24

Antisemitism in the UK shouldn’t be tolerated at all.

However strongly individuals may feel about the Gaza war, Jewish people living in the UK are not the IDF. To attack or intimidate them for things they didn’t do is disgusting.

Religiously motivated hate crimes are really always just an excuse for racists and bullies to do what they enjoy doing.

Antisemitism in the UK shouldn’t be tolerated at all. Agreed. There is no place for any hate crime in the U.K.
However strongly individuals may feel about the Gaza war, Jewish people living in the UK are not the IDF. To attack or intimidate them for things they didn’t do is disgusting. This is where i begin to disagree. There are lots of Jewish people living in the UK who go and serve in the IDF then return to the U.K. However to attack or intimidate people is disgusting.
Religiously motivated hate crimes are really always just an excuse for racists and bullies to do what they enjoy doing. Agreed - the only thing I would say is that there are lots of hate crimes that are not recorded as hate crimes. E.g in the mid 00’s when I had a brick thrown at my window by a group of young lads. When I went to look at what had just happened, they shouted 'Pki' (I’m not) but it wasn’t a hate crime as the verbal insult came after the action.*

Twiglets1 · 20/04/2026 07:24

Antisemitism in the UK shouldn’t be tolerated at all.

However strongly individuals may feel about the Gaza war, Jewish people living in the UK are not the IDF. To attack or intimidate them for things they didn’t do is disgusting.

Religiously motivated hate crimes are really always just an excuse for racists and bullies to do what they enjoy doing.

mids2019 · 20/04/2026 07:13

It feels like we are awaiting more terrible news of attacks on the Jewish community and we shouldn't be passive in our approach. The problem as I see it (and predicted) is that this is a long term problem that could become a terrible cultural norm. I know in schools tik tok videos are routinely shared espousing jew hate and so even at an early age we seem to be fostering anti semtic views as a norm.

One thing that has to change imho is the excuse of 'but Gaza' as it is now should be clear to people the extent of the hostility of Iran and its proxies towards the state of Israel.

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Twiglets1 · 20/04/2026 07:06

All of the above @mids2019

The rise of antisemitism in the UK is very sad and against British values, as is any form of racism.

From the article you linked to:

Across England and Wales, police recorded 10,065 religiously motivated hate crimes for the year ending March 2025, according to the latest Home Office figures.

The Muslim community was the most targeted group with 4,478 cases - including a spike in Islamophobic hate crimes following the Southport knife attack.

However Jewish people, with a much smaller population, experienced more than eight times as many hate-crime incidents per head of population as Muslims.

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