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Iranian attack hit water desalination plant in Kuwait

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Ihatetomatoes · 03/04/2026 09:21

Cannot find a link yet but was on BBC as breaking news.

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RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 13:34

Boolabus · 07/04/2026 13:26

"A whole civilisation will die tonight" Trump's latest rant. I'm dumbfounded this kind of chilling rhetoric is allowed continue. He is threatening the entire population of Iran with death. Even if these are empty words with no substance it is still sick and twisted

@AgingLikeGazpacho I hope your friends and family remain safe and well in Iran.

Screengrab attached.

As potential crimes go, war or whatever, he wants to be the biggest.

Iranian attack hit water desalination plant in Kuwait
BerthaPotts · 07/04/2026 13:31

Any Americans on this thread? If yes, how do your friends and family feel about Trump's increasingly erratic and dangerous posts.

BerthaPotts · 07/04/2026 13:30

Boolabus · 07/04/2026 13:26

"A whole civilisation will die tonight" Trump's latest rant. I'm dumbfounded this kind of chilling rhetoric is allowed continue. He is threatening the entire population of Iran with death. Even if these are empty words with no substance it is still sick and twisted

@AgingLikeGazpacho I hope your friends and family remain safe and well in Iran.

It is so frightening. He really should not be allowed to say such things and I don't know why his advisors are not stopping him.

Boolabus · 07/04/2026 13:26

"A whole civilisation will die tonight" Trump's latest rant. I'm dumbfounded this kind of chilling rhetoric is allowed continue. He is threatening the entire population of Iran with death. Even if these are empty words with no substance it is still sick and twisted

@AgingLikeGazpacho I hope your friends and family remain safe and well in Iran.

TopPocketFind · 07/04/2026 13:06

Iran has already made clear that whatever civilian infrastructure the US targets on Tuesday night it will correspondingly target in the Gulf states.

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 12:59

TopPocketFind · 07/04/2026 12:52

The United States has carried out strikes on what it claimed are military targets on Iran’s Kharg Island, according to a report by Axios citing a senior US official.

Saw that. But Trump said all military things are destroyed there. For sure more could be sent since, but Trump also said he destroyed their boats.

I see Isreal has also hit a rail bridge in Iran. I do not really understand why on that. For what regime change purpose ?

Note, I am not even suggesting either is a war crime. I just can't see why.

Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 12:55

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 12:34

Fair enough. That will be many years away, if ever.

Are you applying the same standard to war crimes ?

Now you’re attempting to go round in circles.

You were the one who started this by picking on me for referring to the targeting of a desalination plant in Kuwait (by Iran) as a war crime on one post, and then as a potential war crime on another and then as probably a war crime.

If I in future always refer to war crimes as “potential war crimes” will you do the same re the claim of genocide in the war in Gaza?

TopPocketFind · 07/04/2026 12:52

The United States has carried out strikes on what it claimed are military targets on Iran’s Kharg Island, according to a report by Axios citing a senior US official.

AgingLikeGazpacho · 07/04/2026 12:41

TopPocketFind · 07/04/2026 11:31

Surrender?

This war was never about a regime change or the Iranian people, Trump has made that very clear

Agree with this.

Plus where is the urgency coming from on the American side that they're so willing to cause widespread destruction and potential warcrimes for the sake of getting an agreement on a tight deadline?

The regime doesn't care about death, either their own or that of their citizens. On the contrary they see it as martyrdom. They recently gave a statement where they said bridges could be rebuilt but the opportunity to teach America a lesson comes only once. They have very little to gain from surrendering - in their eyes they have more to gain from digging their heels in and making demands that they will not veer from.

Larijani is dead, however his Kantian perspective lives on - in their view it is not the outcomes of actions that matter, but the actions themselves. The reason Iranian officials do not concede on certain points is because they are core tenets of their belief and they are seen as non negotiable.

In order for America to make headway with meaningful negotiations, they need to stop trying to strong arm on points that the Iranian government will never capitulate on and focus on where actual movement can be made.

Some progress had been made on these fronts in the negotiations that were held days before the war started. Now it seems that America is struggling to even get to status quo, let alone improve things from what they were pre-February. They've now managed to kill a bunch of more "moderate" members of the Iranian leadership, enable more hardliners to take their place, and weakened their diplomatic capabilities by sowing distrust and undermining the value of sitting down for negotiations.

TopPocketFind · 07/04/2026 12:39

Trump has already stated that he is not worried about war crimes

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 12:34

Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 12:29

Whether it’s good enough for you is irrelevant.

There has not yet been a legal judgment about whether Israel have committed genocide or not. I will wait for the courts to decide seeing as even the UN themselves acknowledge that it’s for the courts to decide.

Fair enough. That will be many years away, if ever.

Are you applying the same standard to war crimes ?

Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 12:29

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 10:08

But the thread is not about Gaza.

If a UN commission said something Iran done was or is a war crime, then that is good enough for me. I am sure it would be for you too.

Whether it’s good enough for you is irrelevant.

There has not yet been a legal judgment about whether Israel have committed genocide or not. I will wait for the courts to decide seeing as even the UN themselves acknowledge that it’s for the courts to decide.

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 11:39

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 11:24

Brittanica asked the question 'how many cities had uprisings in Iran January 2026, produced thus:

"The provided information indicates that protests began in Tehran on December 28, 2025, and quickly spread across the country, continuing through mid-January 2026. While the exact number of cities that experienced uprisings is not specified, the protests are described as having spread "across the country" and being the "closest in years to matching the scale of the 2022 protests". The government launched a brutal crackdown on January 8, 2026, which resulted in a significant number of deaths."

It's very limited in information. 😯 wow so much detail missed. Im glad the UK allows access to independent organisations like Amnesty. It's very helpful

Goodness me. I don't think you are getting the point at all. If Amnesty, BBC and wiki are blocked where I am, do you really just assume AI works ? The Brittanica website is what I get. And before you screenshot and post it to keep showing how wrong I was ( after I said happy to be corrected), it might not be the same.

TopPocketFind · 07/04/2026 11:31

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 11:28

It's awful, especially added to the thousands slaughtered for protesting by the regime.

It is vital that talks between the parties take place urgently. The regime much like its proxies probably wouldn't surrender to save the citizens, since it cares little for them. What a mess.

Surrender?

This war was never about a regime change or the Iranian people, Trump has made that very clear

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 11:29

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 10:29

It would be if there wasn't a war on. With a war ongoing some might see it as a warning to evacuate. There is a war on. Hopefully one that can be resolved between the parties.

Resolved ?

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 11:28

TopPocketFind · 07/04/2026 11:18

Nearly 3,600 people have been killed in the US-Israeli strikes on Iran since attacks began, including at least 1,665 civilians, the Human Rights Activists news agency (HRANA) said.
Of those numbers, at least 248 of those killed were children, the US-based NGO said.
At least 49 civilians were killed and 58 others were injured on Monday, according to HRANA, which recorded 573 attacks across 215 incidents in 20 provinces over that 24-hour period – the highest rate of attacks seen in the last ten days.

It's awful, especially added to the thousands slaughtered for protesting by the regime.

It is vital that talks between the parties take place urgently. The regime much like its proxies probably wouldn't surrender to save the citizens, since it cares little for them. What a mess.

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Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 11:24

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 10:47

Also blocked where I am.

I get Brittanica, and it does not say a lot.

Brittanica asked the question 'how many cities had uprisings in Iran January 2026, produced thus:

"The provided information indicates that protests began in Tehran on December 28, 2025, and quickly spread across the country, continuing through mid-January 2026. While the exact number of cities that experienced uprisings is not specified, the protests are described as having spread "across the country" and being the "closest in years to matching the scale of the 2022 protests". The government launched a brutal crackdown on January 8, 2026, which resulted in a significant number of deaths."

It's very limited in information. 😯 wow so much detail missed. Im glad the UK allows access to independent organisations like Amnesty. It's very helpful

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Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 11:18

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 10:47

Also blocked where I am.

I get Brittanica, and it does not say a lot.

The BBC are blocked where you live also? Or did you mean Wikipedia?

Amnesty blocked. It sounds very restrictive where you live. Must be difficult to get a balance when so many sites are blocked. It must be hard when only some sites are allowed, sounds authoritarian. The UK has assess to so much, although included is complete rubbish as often posted on Tic tok.

I can cut and paste if you find it difficult to read information from various sites. Although previously I cut and paste to assist another who couldn't assess and had the 'links please ' so I tend to share links.

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TopPocketFind · 07/04/2026 11:18

Nearly 3,600 people have been killed in the US-Israeli strikes on Iran since attacks began, including at least 1,665 civilians, the Human Rights Activists news agency (HRANA) said.
Of those numbers, at least 248 of those killed were children, the US-based NGO said.
At least 49 civilians were killed and 58 others were injured on Monday, according to HRANA, which recorded 573 attacks across 215 incidents in 20 provinces over that 24-hour period – the highest rate of attacks seen in the last ten days.

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 11:13

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 10:11

And did I persist with my error ? Or was I happy to be corrected ?

Incidentally, you never said how many cities. I did ask, and I did say I can't open those reports.. twice.

The links to the BBC show over a hundred. The Wikipedia general comment says hundreds. Amnesty (that you are unable to see where you live) states hundreds sns nationwide.

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TopPocketFind · 07/04/2026 11:07

Israel and the US struck 17 civilian targets on Tuesday morning, the Iranian Red Crescent said, in attacks that the humanitarian NGO have decried as war crimes.

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 10:47

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 10:26

It states hundreds, not a precise number, but clearly not just a couple. The Wikipedia link and the BBC links I also provided also states either hundreds or over a hundred cities and state the uprisings were 'nationwide'.

There you go.

Also blocked where I am.

I get Brittanica, and it does not say a lot.

EasternStandard · 07/04/2026 10:30

Golden407 · 07/04/2026 10:22

I don’t believe the EU is the ultimate authority on the morality of national governments.
Whilst there is plenty criticise the Iranian government government for i don’t believe the violence at the beginning of the year was spontaneous. Alistair Crook wrote a piece on the CIA/Mossad, how they’ve been running a training camp in Albania for over a decade training thousands of Kurds for infiltration into Iran in order to instigate civil unrest to provide a pretext for intervention.
There’s been a huge amount of effort to achieve “regime change” in Iran

I see, although there have been suppressed uprisings in 1999, 2009, 2022 whether students, women or other.

Here is an overview on what the protestors faced.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mgndkklvmo

And no that doesn’t mean I’m posting everyone has to agree on what happens next, but that those protests have been verified.

A composite image shows a machine gun mounted in the back of a white pickup truck (left) and a screen grab from a video verified by BBC News Persian of the 9 January protests in the north-eastern city of Mashhad, showing two figures in black tactical u...

Machine guns to machetes: Weapons that massacred thousands in Iran

BBC News Persian Forensic has been able to confirm the security forces' deployment of a wide array of lethal and non-lethal weaponry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mgndkklvmo

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 10:29

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 10:25

Imagine the outcry if such a warning was put out for the UK. It would be called terrorism.

It would be if there wasn't a war on. With a war ongoing some might see it as a warning to evacuate. There is a war on. Hopefully one that can be resolved between the parties.

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Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 10:26

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 10:11

And did I persist with my error ? Or was I happy to be corrected ?

Incidentally, you never said how many cities. I did ask, and I did say I can't open those reports.. twice.

It states hundreds, not a precise number, but clearly not just a couple. The Wikipedia link and the BBC links I also provided also states either hundreds or over a hundred cities and state the uprisings were 'nationwide'.

There you go.

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