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Iranian attack hit water desalination plant in Kuwait

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Ihatetomatoes · 03/04/2026 09:21

Cannot find a link yet but was on BBC as breaking news.

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Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 14:55

Ihatetomatoes · 09/04/2026 14:47

I was replying to someone who did the usual 'terrorists of the future speech"..... replying that not all people end up being terrorists of the future when a war ends, eg Japan and Germany, they chose peace and look at them now amazing countries of prosperity. Why do people expect less of the people of The Lebanon than what occurred with the people of Japan (many hundreds of thousands were killed) and Germany (huge numbers during 2 World wars).... they wanted better for their grandchildren and achieved it. Its not impossible for Lebanon to achieve similar if the will is there to get rid of Hezbollah.

Their government might do more to stop Hezbollah from within their own country though.

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Do you know anything about the history of the region? from the massacres in the 1940s, to the rise of the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah etc etc

The "Terrorists of the future..." is exactly what has been happening for generations.... what do you propose to do to stop this? kill every Palestinian?

Japan and Germany kept their nation statehood, the Marshall plans rebuilt their economies, there is zero comparison.

Notonthestairs · 09/04/2026 14:52

I suppose the point of the ceasefire was to have those conversations with Iran regarding their ability/willingness to influence Hezbollah.

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 14:50

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 08:27

That has nothing to do with the point I made which was that it's not just a case
that Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon as you said.

That cuts both ways and Hezbollah often sticks the boot into Israel when they are vulnerable (such as the day after they were attacked by Hamas).

They are a proscribed terrorist organisation and while Lebanon is not Hezbollah, it is also true to say that Lebanon has not been able to destroy Hezbollah from within, despite they are no friend to the current government or the people of Lebanon.

mmmm a few rockets which land in the desert or are shot down vs 1500 people killed inc 130 children, latest Israeli attacks killed the elderly who were too frail to flee.
So many more than killed in the October 7th attack, yet the world stays silent, the UK issues a "We are deeply troubled..." comment wooo weeee!

Its cold blooded murder, totally unjustified and will wreck the ceasefire, destroying the worlds economy.

Pakistan brokered the ceasefire, they say Lebanon was included in the deal.

TopPocketFind · 09/04/2026 14:50

@Ihatetomatoes

Why are you suddenly using The Lebanon?

Ihatetomatoes · 09/04/2026 14:47

TopPocketFind · 09/04/2026 14:37

How can people choose peace when their country is constantly bombed?

I was replying to someone who did the usual 'terrorists of the future speech"..... replying that not all people end up being terrorists of the future when a war ends, eg Japan and Germany, they chose peace and look at them now amazing countries of prosperity. Why do people expect less of the people of The Lebanon than what occurred with the people of Japan (many hundreds of thousands were killed) and Germany (huge numbers during 2 World wars).... they wanted better for their grandchildren and achieved it. Its not impossible for Lebanon to achieve similar if the will is there to get rid of Hezbollah.

Their government might do more to stop Hezbollah from within their own country though.

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Ihatetomatoes · 09/04/2026 14:41

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 08:27

That has nothing to do with the point I made which was that it's not just a case
that Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon as you said.

That cuts both ways and Hezbollah often sticks the boot into Israel when they are vulnerable (such as the day after they were attacked by Hamas).

They are a proscribed terrorist organisation and while Lebanon is not Hezbollah, it is also true to say that Lebanon has not been able to destroy Hezbollah from within, despite they are no friend to the current government or the people of Lebanon.

Hezbollah are no friend to the people of The Lebanon and yet seem uncontrollable by the government of The Lebanon. If they could actually get they to stop doing the bidding of Iran, things would improve massively.

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TopPocketFind · 09/04/2026 14:37

How can people choose peace when their country is constantly bombed?

Ihatetomatoes · 09/04/2026 14:33

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 07:52

@Twiglets1 None of that justifies killing 1500 people inc 130 plus children

How would you feel if your family was blown to bits because your near neighbour supported a Terrorist organisation?

What Israel is doing would be like the UK launching an indiscriminate attack on Belfast after the PIRA bombing in Brighton.

Do you think we would have had the GFA if we had done to Belfast or Dublin what the Israelis have done to Lebanon?

Israel's actions are also counter productive, the children who have lost parents/family members are the Hezbollah of the future.

The Japanese and Germans after the second workd war weren't the terrorists of the future. Some people chose peace

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Ihatetomatoes · 09/04/2026 14:32

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 07:23

Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon...only because of Hezbollah repeatedly attacking them. Hezbollah like to join wars against Israel on the instructions of Iran. In the Gaza war, and then again in the Iran war.

From 8 October 2023, Hezbollah, a non-state group based in Lebanon that the UK has proscribed as a terrorist organisation, launched missile attacks against Israel in support of Hamas in Gaza. The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) launched air strikes in response. In September 2024, a strike killed Hezbollah’s leader. Israeli ground forces entered Lebanon on 1 October 2024. A ceasefire was agreed between Israel and Hezbollah on 26 November 2024.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10108/

Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Yemen’s Houthis join Iran in strike on Israel

The Houthis in Yemen say they attacked Israel alongside their backers Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon

Yemen’s Houthi rebels say they have launched an attack targeting Israel, coordinated alongside Houthi backer Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The three allies “launched a barrage of cruise missiles and drones targeting several vital and military sites belonging to the Israeli enemy” on Monday, military spokesman Yahya Saree said in a statement (6th April 2026)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/lebanons-hezbollah-and-yemens-houthis-join-iran-in-strike-on-israel

All the terrorist organisations join in together but many just blame Israel. Should Israel just do nothing when repeatedly attacked hy hezbollah or other terrorist groups.

It seems the terms of the ceasefire aren't clear. Surely all parties need to be part of talks.

Al Jazerra are still calling it a ceasefire but a fragile one.

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Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 08:27

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 07:52

@Twiglets1 None of that justifies killing 1500 people inc 130 plus children

How would you feel if your family was blown to bits because your near neighbour supported a Terrorist organisation?

What Israel is doing would be like the UK launching an indiscriminate attack on Belfast after the PIRA bombing in Brighton.

Do you think we would have had the GFA if we had done to Belfast or Dublin what the Israelis have done to Lebanon?

Israel's actions are also counter productive, the children who have lost parents/family members are the Hezbollah of the future.

That has nothing to do with the point I made which was that it's not just a case
that Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon as you said.

That cuts both ways and Hezbollah often sticks the boot into Israel when they are vulnerable (such as the day after they were attacked by Hamas).

They are a proscribed terrorist organisation and while Lebanon is not Hezbollah, it is also true to say that Lebanon has not been able to destroy Hezbollah from within, despite they are no friend to the current government or the people of Lebanon.

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 07:52

@Twiglets1 None of that justifies killing 1500 people inc 130 plus children

How would you feel if your family was blown to bits because your near neighbour supported a Terrorist organisation?

What Israel is doing would be like the UK launching an indiscriminate attack on Belfast after the PIRA bombing in Brighton.

Do you think we would have had the GFA if we had done to Belfast or Dublin what the Israelis have done to Lebanon?

Israel's actions are also counter productive, the children who have lost parents/family members are the Hezbollah of the future.

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 07:23

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 06:44

I wouldn't know that but Pakistan says Lebanon IS part of the deal, so all comes down to Trump telling Israel to stop.

Lebanese Govt probably has as much sway over Hezbollah as the UK Govt had over the IRA.

Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon, no one else, Israel responds the way it does, even though History shows it makes no longer term difference, they have invaded Lebanon before, 18years and achieved nothing.

The only way for attacks to stop is via negotiation & a peace process, not creating more terrorists by indiscriminate bombing and occupation.

Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon...only because of Hezbollah repeatedly attacking them. Hezbollah like to join wars against Israel on the instructions of Iran. In the Gaza war, and then again in the Iran war.

From 8 October 2023, Hezbollah, a non-state group based in Lebanon that the UK has proscribed as a terrorist organisation, launched missile attacks against Israel in support of Hamas in Gaza. The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) launched air strikes in response. In September 2024, a strike killed Hezbollah’s leader. Israeli ground forces entered Lebanon on 1 October 2024. A ceasefire was agreed between Israel and Hezbollah on 26 November 2024.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10108/

Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Yemen’s Houthis join Iran in strike on Israel

The Houthis in Yemen say they attacked Israel alongside their backers Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon

Yemen’s Houthi rebels say they have launched an attack targeting Israel, coordinated alongside Houthi backer Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The three allies “launched a barrage of cruise missiles and drones targeting several vital and military sites belonging to the Israeli enemy” on Monday, military spokesman Yahya Saree said in a statement (6th April 2026)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/lebanons-hezbollah-and-yemens-houthis-join-iran-in-strike-on-israel

Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Yemen’s Houthis join Iran in strike on Israel

Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Yemen’s Houthis join Iran in strike on Israel

The Houthis in Yemen say they attacked Israel alongside their backers Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/lebanons-hezbollah-and-yemens-houthis-join-iran-in-strike-on-israel

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 06:44

Ihatetomatoes · 08/04/2026 22:00

Are Hezbollah likely to stick to a deal if the US make Israel?

Do the government of Lebanon have any say or sway with the terrorist organisation Hezbollah that brings mayhem to it's country? Just wondered? The government of Lebanon did condemn Hezbollah attacks on Israel after the war between Iran and The US/Israel started.

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I wouldn't know that but Pakistan says Lebanon IS part of the deal, so all comes down to Trump telling Israel to stop.

Lebanese Govt probably has as much sway over Hezbollah as the UK Govt had over the IRA.

Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon, no one else, Israel responds the way it does, even though History shows it makes no longer term difference, they have invaded Lebanon before, 18years and achieved nothing.

The only way for attacks to stop is via negotiation & a peace process, not creating more terrorists by indiscriminate bombing and occupation.

Islandsofsand · 09/04/2026 03:44

Ihatetomatoes · 08/04/2026 22:00

Are Hezbollah likely to stick to a deal if the US make Israel?

Do the government of Lebanon have any say or sway with the terrorist organisation Hezbollah that brings mayhem to it's country? Just wondered? The government of Lebanon did condemn Hezbollah attacks on Israel after the war between Iran and The US/Israel started.

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Didn’t Hezbollah stop firing into Israel when ceasefire began? They also thought the ceasefire included Israel not bombing them.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hezbollah-pauses-attacks-under-us-iran-ceasefire-sources-close-group-say-2026-04-08/

Vance said that there may be a “legitimate misunderstanding” that Iran thought that not bombing Lebanon was included in the ceasefire.

Islandsofsand · 09/04/2026 03:34

Twiglets1 · 08/04/2026 21:55

We can all see the whole thing you know … including the last sentence about the ceasefire not including Lebanon.

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Yes I saw that subsequently- wishful thinking or great coordination between Trump and Netanyahu on the ceasefire proposal?

Ihatetomatoes · 08/04/2026 23:40

TopPocketFind · 08/04/2026 23:11

Fine, maybe google it Flowers

😂 google the views of others 🙄 oh my, are you aware its a discussion forum, where people give views 😂😂 are you new to chat forums?

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TopPocketFind · 08/04/2026 23:11

Fine, maybe google it Flowers

Ihatetomatoes · 08/04/2026 23:08

TopPocketFind · 08/04/2026 23:00

Does it make dfference in the killing of Lebanese civilians?

In the same way as taking out the IRCG shouldn't mean destroying Iran civilization.

Look, I was asking a question. You don't care to answer with your view, preferring to ask your own question back .

I prefer posters who actually answer with their view before asking a question, so I'll move on. Cannot be bothered with people who dont give a view themselves. Others might give a view, whereas you cannot be bothered. No point in engaging (if you can call it that) with questions back, rather than focusing on and discussing question asked first 🙄.

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TopPocketFind · 08/04/2026 23:00

Does it make dfference in the killing of Lebanese civilians?

In the same way as taking out the IRCG shouldn't mean destroying Iran civilization.

Ihatetomatoes · 08/04/2026 22:52

TopPocketFind · 08/04/2026 22:43

Are you suggesting Israel should continue bombing Lebanon?

I was quite clearly asking if Hezbollah are likely to stick to a deal and not continue to fire missiles.

I was asking if the government of The Lebanon have any control at all over the terrorist organisation that operates from its country.

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TopPocketFind · 08/04/2026 22:43

Ihatetomatoes · 08/04/2026 22:00

Are Hezbollah likely to stick to a deal if the US make Israel?

Do the government of Lebanon have any say or sway with the terrorist organisation Hezbollah that brings mayhem to it's country? Just wondered? The government of Lebanon did condemn Hezbollah attacks on Israel after the war between Iran and The US/Israel started.

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Are you suggesting Israel should continue bombing Lebanon?

Ihatetomatoes · 08/04/2026 22:00

Alexandra2001 · 08/04/2026 15:25

Reuters reporting several ships told Hormuz still closed... danger of attack.

Iran has now said it will pull out of ceasefire if Lebanon is still attacked.

Are Hezbollah likely to stick to a deal if the US make Israel?

Do the government of Lebanon have any say or sway with the terrorist organisation Hezbollah that brings mayhem to it's country? Just wondered? The government of Lebanon did condemn Hezbollah attacks on Israel after the war between Iran and The US/Israel started.

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Twiglets1 · 08/04/2026 21:55

Islandsofsand · 08/04/2026 21:10

Israel has clearly decided is does not want a ceasefire in Lebanon, although interesting that Netanyahu’s office also originally also seems to have agreed to the ceasefire.

Prime Minister’s Office:

Israel supports President Trump's decision to suspend strikes against Iran for two weeks subject to Iran immediately opening the straits and stopping all attacks on the US, Israel and countries in the region.

4:06 am · 8 Apr 2026 508.3K* *Views

https://x.com/IsraeliPM/status/2041714151374856232?s=20

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We can all see the whole thing you know … including the last sentence about the ceasefire not including Lebanon.

Islandsofsand · 08/04/2026 21:29

Trump seems to have suggested that US could join Iran charging ships a toll to go through the SOH. It would be a “beautiful thing”

“This morning, I asked President Trump if he’s okay with the Iranians charging a toll for all ships that go through the Strait of Hormuz, he told me there may be a Joint US-Iran venture to charge tolls:

“We’re thinking of doing it as a joint venture. It’s a way of securing it — also securing it from lots of other people.”

“It’s a beautiful thing”

https://x.com/jonkarl/status/2041839012097229086?s=20

However his press secretary stated later there would be no limitations, no tolls.

Jonathan Karl (@jonkarl) on X

This morning, I asked President Trump if he’s okay with the Iranians charging a toll for all ships that go through the Strait of Hormuz, he told me there may be a Joint US-Iran venture to charge tolls: “We’re thinking of doing it as a joint venture. I...

https://x.com/jonkarl/status/2041839012097229086?s=20

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