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Iranian attack hit water desalination plant in Kuwait

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Ihatetomatoes · 03/04/2026 09:21

Cannot find a link yet but was on BBC as breaking news.

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Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 15:27

TulipLavender · 03/04/2026 15:16

Because this thread is all about how awful it is that Iran has hit a desalination plant in an uninvolved country - it's very relevant for neutral bystanders to point out that such tactics are done by all of the hideous actors involved. That clear precedents were set by those that started this war.
Sticks used to beat a global superpower by a mumsnet commentator? Come on! It's just stating the truth.

Sounds like minimising the actions of the IRGC to me.

It is awful what they have done and no amount of precedents changes that.

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 15:26

All the criticism that has been levelled against Israel's conduct in the Gaza war (some of it legitimate such as for striking civilian infrastructure, some of it not) - yet people get criticised for pointing out that Iran was wrong to hit a desalination plant in an uninvolved country?

Iran is not even at war with Kuwait. It's likely a war crime.

The IRGC are responsible for their own actions and bringing Israel into the discussion doesn't change that.

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 15:17

Efacsen · 03/04/2026 15:11

Trump in particular forcefully blamed Iran on more than one occasion - misfired missile from nearby Iranian base was the theory - with much comparison to the Alhili hospital misfiring in certain quarters

The giveaway was the film of the missiles involved which were undeniably American

Did you miss all that?

Did I miss "all that" ?

Who else in the US government apart from Trump - who we all know is a wild card on occasion - blamed Iran for it?

Theories, yes there were lots of theories flying around. Which blamed all 3 possible options - the US, Israel and Iran because nobody knew.

TulipLavender · 03/04/2026 15:16

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 15:10

If you agree that it was most likely an accident, why are you still bringing it up now as a stick to beat the US with?

Because this thread is all about how awful it is that Iran has hit a desalination plant in an uninvolved country - it's very relevant for neutral bystanders to point out that such tactics are done by all of the hideous actors involved. That clear precedents were set by those that started this war.
Sticks used to beat a global superpower by a mumsnet commentator? Come on! It's just stating the truth.

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 15:14

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 14:25

I am not as convinced because Iranian attacks are retaliatory in nature.
The initial aggression came from the US and Israel.
Or aggression may not be a factor and they will simply align with the winner for self preservation.

You are not convinced that countries in the ME will want to distance themselves from Iran because the initial aggression came from the US and Israel.

I think the relationship will be soured for a long time after the war.

Iranian attacks pose existential threat, Gulf states warn

Gulf Arab states have told the UN Human Rights Council they face an existential threat from Iranian attacks on their infrastructure, which the UN human-rights chief said might constitute war crimes.

The war on Iran has sparked large-scale Iranian retaliation in the form of drone and missile strikes on energy and civilian infrastructure in Gulf countries, killing civilians and driving up oil prices.

"We are seeing an existential threat to international and regional security. This aggressive approach is undermining international law and sovereignty," Kuwait's ambassador Naser Abdullah HM Alhayen told the council.

Other Gulf states said Iran's actions were designed to spread terror. The United Arab Emirates' ambassador Jamal Jama al Musharakh denounced Iran's "attempt to destabilise the international order through reckless adventures of expansionism”.

Countries at the 47-member council adopted a motion condemning Iran's "unprovoked and deliberate" strikes, seeking reparations from Iran and asking the UN to monitor the situation.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-us-war-live-oil-trump-israel-strait-of-hormuz-peace-talks-b2945090.html

Efacsen · 03/04/2026 15:11

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 14:55

No they didn't.

At first no one knew who was responsible for hitting the school so there were lots of opinions flying around that it was the US, it was Israel, it was Iran.

Trump in particular forcefully blamed Iran on more than one occasion - misfired missile from nearby Iranian base was the theory - with much comparison to the Alhili hospital misfiring in certain quarters

The giveaway was the film of the missiles involved which were undeniably American

Did you miss all that?

TulipLavender · 03/04/2026 15:10

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 14:53

I don't think the US have "admitted" hitting the girls school in Iran.

They have explicitly said they would never target a school.

It seems likely that the school was hit by a US plane but that doesn't mean they purposefully targeted a school.

To suggest otherwise is misinformation.

The school was hit 40 mins later in a double tap. The school isnt just any school but the daughters of military officers, that signals to be that it was highly unlikely to be an random accident twice.

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 15:10

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 15:04

Sorry what? I never said they’d deliberately target a school.
The Pentagon confirming it is good enough for me. I don’t need the only person above the Pentagon, Trump, to confirm it.

Edited

If you agree that it was most likely an accident, why are you still bringing it up now as a stick to beat the US with?

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 15:04

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 15:02

OK - I was not aware they have officially taken responsibility for the hit, I thought they were still investigating it. Perhaps because it has not been confirmed.

I believe them that they would not deliberately target a school, you don't.

It's all just opinion which we won't change each other's minds on because it depends on our preconceived ideas of the US.

Sorry what? I never said they’d deliberately target a school.
The Pentagon confirming it is good enough for me. I don’t need the only person above the Pentagon, Trump, to confirm it.

greengagejamandcrumpets · 03/04/2026 15:04

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 11:45

That will be how Iran attempt to justify it.

But Bahrain and Kuwait are not at war with Iran.

And a water desalination plant is not a legitimate military target.

There is no justification for Iran targeting a water desalination plant, especially in a country they are not even at war with. Is there?

No and I believe it counts as a "War Crime".

Not that Iran will be bothered about that 🙄

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 15:02

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 14:58

No. They admitted hitting the girls school but that it was an accident.
Saying they’d never target a school was saying they did not deliberately hit it.

The U.S. Pentagon has launched a formal investigation into a missile strike on an Iranian girls' school that killed at least 165 civilians, many of them children, which determined the U.S. was at fault, according to a U.S. official who was not authorized to speak publicly.

It wasn’t hit by a plane, the Pentagon probe showed it was hit (double tapped) by two US Tomahawk missiles.

Edited

OK - I was not aware they have officially taken responsibility for the hit, I thought they were still investigating it. Perhaps because it has not been confirmed.

I believe them that they would not deliberately target a school, you don't.

It's all just opinion which we won't change each other's minds on because it depends on our preconceived ideas of the US.

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 15:02

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 14:55

No they didn't.

At first no one knew who was responsible for hitting the school so there were lots of opinions flying around that it was the US, it was Israel, it was Iran.

Well, actually,
The US admitted it.
Hegseth said but we would never have targeted a school (so it wasn’t deliberate)
Then Trump tried to blame Iran for it.

And this is just 1 school out of around 600 total Iranian schools hit by the US and Israel combined. Around 100 oopsies in six weeks.

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2026 15:01

I posted this on a previous thread

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/29/world/middleeast/us-precision-strike-missile-iran-lamerd.html
New U.S. Missile Hit Iranian Sports Hall and School, Analysis Shows

The Pentagon used missiles untested in combat in a deadly attack that struck civilian sites near a military compound on Feb. 28, according to visual evidence examined by The Times and weapons experts.

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 15:00

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 14:59

I'm glad we agree now that your statement What’s allowed for one, becomes permissible for all was not right and it's ok to criticise Iran for striking a desalination plant in Kuwait.

My statement is correct. It was a real politiks observation of when laws are not enforced, the crime becomes de facto permitted.

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 14:59

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 14:34

Obviously it was ethically and legally wrong in 2023 and today no matter who does it, but a law is only as good as the political will to enforce it. Israel has faced zero sanctions or repercussions for hitting illegal civilian targets for years.

This has emboldened other countries to ignore the laws of armed conflict, when something like this emerges it is called a climate of permissiveness.

I'm glad we agree now that your statement What’s allowed for one, becomes permissible for all was not right and it's ok to criticise Iran for striking a desalination plant in Kuwait.

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 14:58

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 14:53

I don't think the US have "admitted" hitting the girls school in Iran.

They have explicitly said they would never target a school.

It seems likely that the school was hit by a US plane but that doesn't mean they purposefully targeted a school.

To suggest otherwise is misinformation.

No. They admitted hitting the girls school but that it was an accident.
Saying they’d never target a school was saying they did not deliberately hit it.

The U.S. Pentagon has launched a formal investigation into a missile strike on an Iranian girls' school that killed at least 165 civilians, many of them children, which determined the U.S. was at fault, according to a U.S. official who was not authorized to speak publicly.

It wasn’t hit by a plane, the Pentagon probe showed it was hit (double tapped) by two US Tomahawk missiles.

EasternStandard · 03/04/2026 14:57

CurlewKate · 03/04/2026 14:44

Ah well. Be grateful it wasn’t a school, huh?

Do you follow what Amnesty have said the IRGC are doing? There seems to be a general blank over that part.

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2026 14:56

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 14:53

I don't think the US have "admitted" hitting the girls school in Iran.

They have explicitly said they would never target a school.

It seems likely that the school was hit by a US plane but that doesn't mean they purposefully targeted a school.

To suggest otherwise is misinformation.

They hit it nevertheless.

By mistake is just as bad.

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 14:55

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2026 14:51

The US admitted that eventually but iirc they tried to blame Iran.

No they didn't.

At first no one knew who was responsible for hitting the school so there were lots of opinions flying around that it was the US, it was Israel, it was Iran.

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 14:53

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 14:43

The US admitted hitting the 1 girls school with the high casualties.
US and Israel have admitted hitting the other 500 or so schools as well.

I don't think the US have "admitted" hitting the girls school in Iran.

They have explicitly said they would never target a school.

It seems likely that the school was hit by a US plane but that doesn't mean they purposefully targeted a school.

To suggest otherwise is misinformation.

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2026 14:51

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 14:43

The US admitted hitting the 1 girls school with the high casualties.
US and Israel have admitted hitting the other 500 or so schools as well.

The US admitted that eventually but iirc they tried to blame Iran.

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 14:48

Ihatetomatoes · 03/04/2026 14:39

@BoredZelda

Where has the US hit that isn't Iran?

2026 so far the US has hit:
Venezuela
Syria
Iraq
Iran
Yemen
Nigeria
Somalia

EasternStandard · 03/04/2026 14:47

TulipLavender · 03/04/2026 14:36

Although some commentators are also saying that after this conflict the gulf states wont want to host US bases anymore. It's shown it doesn't make them any safer.

Who is to say what the situation after this conflict? - seems major global shifts are likely. I dont think US will want close relations with Israel. Aipac is a dirty word in the Democratic party. Israel pulling US into this war has caused divisions in Maga. This conflict, I hope, may be the last US war of aggression.

Maybe but the executions in Iran continue and they’re quite keen on their own horrors so if they do gain more power we’ll see where it goes.

CurlewKate · 03/04/2026 14:44

Ah well. Be grateful it wasn’t a school, huh?

AmberTigerEyes · 03/04/2026 14:43

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2026 14:36

Israel and the US denied hitting the school in Iran, nothing new in denying strikes from all sides.

The US admitted hitting the 1 girls school with the high casualties.
US and Israel have admitted hitting the other 500 or so schools as well.