Iranian attack hit water desalination plant in Kuwait

Anything on if you trust Amnesty International ?

Anyway, here is another one for you. Do you trust Trump ?

The Kurds certainty should not. BECAUSE HE JUST TOLD THE WHOLE WORLD HE ARMED THEM- TO ARM PROTESTORS.

5d chess is it, or has he just thrown the lot of them under the bus for the sake of who the feck knows on Fox news. NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY SO MANY POSTERS HERE ARE ANTI TRUMP AND ANTI THIS STUPID WAR HE STARTED ?

But yeah. I am sure the Iranian Government will just dismiss this as the ramblings of a madman, and not another brutal crackdown to find these arms and the Kurds and protestors he claims he gave them to. Yeah, the Iranian Government can't see Fox news anyway. How will they know he said it.

"Trump tells Fox News US sent arms meant for Iranian protesters to Kurds
By Dalia Abdelwahab
President Donald Trump told Fox News correspondent Trey Yingst during an interview this morning that the US sent weapons to Kurdish forces with the intent of arming Iranian protesters, seeming to confirm a CNN report from last month.
“President Trump told me the United States sent guns to the Iranian protesters. He tells me ‘we sent them a lot of guns. We sent them through the Kurds,’” Yingst said, recounting the phone interview. Yingst added that the president said he thinks the Kurds kept the weapons.
CNN reported last month the US was arming Kurdish groups with the aim of fomenting a popular uprising in Iran. The goal was to have the armed Kurdish forces take on Iranian forces, making it easier for Iranian civilians to take to the streets in protest.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told reporters at the time that “none of our objectives are premised on the support of the arming of any particular force. So what other entities may be doing, we’re aware of, but our objectives aren’t centered on that.”"

Thank you.

Assuming his account wasn’t hacked, he has actually gone mad.

Which must be scary in itself for his enemies.

It’s not a ‘pro Israeli position’ to talk about what’s happening to the protestors rn

You can talk about what’s happening and still not want a war.

@AgingLikeGazpacho

I don't think it's naivety, I think it's a pro Israeli position whatever the cost. None of us who realise what the true cost could be are using the perceived "plight" of the Iranian people to justify the current insanity. Even if the Iranian government was overthrown what do people expect to happen? A peaceful transition to a new democratic government? No, there would be a period of absolute chaos and disorder and no one in their right mind thinks that turns out well for women or anyone really.

Thanks for your post. I hope your family in Iran are OK.

Speaking as someone who has actually been to Iran multiple times (nearly every year) for the past 30 years and has been able to talk to their Iranian family members over the past few weeks, I wish people would be less naive when thinking this war will do anything to help the general population achieve greater religious/political/personal freedom

The fact is that since the 1990s, women within Iran have repeatedly been able to push back against the government and been able to gain small (but symbolically significant) wins in how they dress, their participation in the workforce, and individual liberties. One small example of this is the headscarf and how since the women, life, freedom movement it's been less strictly enforced. The point I am making is that the population itself has been able to fight for change by itself. It would have been able to do that much more effectively without being heavily sanctioned all these years. Internal iranian struggles should not be used as a justification or rationalisation for external parties to instigate war

Iranian people unite under pressure - whilst my family and friends hate the government, they love their country more. The Iran-Iraq war showed how Iranians will fight tooth and nail to protect their country even if they hate their regime. They didn't use it as an opportunity to overthrow their government or break out into guerilla warfare.

To think the people would flood the streets as the first bombs of this war hit Iran, when they'd been so badly betrayed in January, was wishful thinking - bear in mind that there is no alternative power in Iran that would be an obvious contender to the current Islamic Republic and that people already have observed what happens in a power vacuum. These people are largely educated (often to undergraduate or postgraduate level). Contrary to what mainstream media was attempting to portray in January, the former Crown prince Reza Pahlavi has little popularity in Iran - they would prefer democracy over monarchy.

Western media tries to portray the average Iranian as cowering from the IRGC and the Basij, but they rise up regularly when they believe there is a sufficient strength and cause to do so.

Only weighing in since some posters have mentioned Iran's domestic situation and violence towards its own people on this thread already, which I believe is largely irrelevant to the intended discussion (yes I understand the irony of my post!)

SM is good at filling your feed if you start off on one.

Ok, I thought you might have some specific accounts that are a good start.

I will give it a try and see what comes up.

Below is the recommendation, use the hashtag I said, look up the background, usual stuff when following on an international event.

Follow someone you have checked and the algorithm will do the work for you.

Me too. Who would you recommend on Instagram @EasternStandard please? I think you said you use it.

I trust Amnesty International no problem at all. I am just saying I have seen lots of reports that say they are not to be trusted.

I just wondered if you trust them. It's a benign question really.

Ok as you wish. Which organisation do you trust?

Amnesty International ?

Do you believe what they say ? I heard somewhere that their information and reports are not to be trusted.

I asked you for a recommendation where to start looking in an earlier post, I would still appreaciate it if you could give me some pointers.

Your best bet is hearing from them directly in the platform you do use. There’s likely a stop Iran executions hashtag or go to Amnesty International get the names of those executed and use that to find voices on this.

People are good at explaining why the Revolutionary Guard is such a threat.

On the subject of brutal oppression in Iran, did you see this re the pilot rescue? From the CBS news feed:

"CIA was deeply involved in rescue of stranded airman from Iran, White House official says
The CIA was deeply involved in the mission to rescue the weapons systems officer from the downed F-15E, a senior Trump administration official told CBS News.
Prior to locating the airman, the CIA launched a deception campaign, spreading word inside Iran that U.S. forces had already found him and were moving him on the ground for exfiltration out of the country.
While the deception operation was ongoing, the agency used its capabilities to track the crew member in a mountain crevice.
The CIA shared the crew member's exact location with the Pentagon and the White House. The president ordered an immediate rescue mission, with the CIA continuing to provide real-time information."

So when the protests were going on in Iran, the Iranian government predictably blamed "external agitators and the CIA". It's the go to for authoritarian governments.

AND NOW THE TRUMP ADMIN IS BOASTING ABOUT IT (wrt pilots)

So now the Iranian Government will say " See, we told you", and start rounding up and likely execute people. Because there is no way they can let this lay.
And we don't even know if the Trump admin are just "making it up" for boast points.

Would you agree that is downright reckless of the Trump administration ?

For sure. And I can't see Iran change from that overnight.

Trump's Truth Social account

The news.

Attached is clip from the CNN feed. Just look at the news.

Is your Google broken. Stop treating other posters as your assistant. Multiple news outlets are reporting on it as "a foul mouthed tirade".

I have seen it on Jake Tapper's Instagram and various news outlets. TPF isn't in the habit of posting fake news.

When is Vance going to invoke the 25th amendment? Surely no one thinks this is an appropriate way for a president to behave.

Source?

Have you seen what Trump just wrote and posted ?

Why do you think he is saying "Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP”

Has he converted ?

But how?

What do the people you follow in IG suggest? Who do they want in charge and is that agreed on by those living in Iran?

Eastern, we all want the people of Iran to live in freedom. But do you really think this war is going to achieve that end? Do you really think Trump cares about the women of Iran? Had he ever said anything about the oppression meted out to them?