Israel votes for death penalty for Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks

Considering you e just defended the poster who announced that I wanted more deaths, I don’t know why you think it should be self evident that you don’t think that sort of thing.

You seem to be agreeing with the poster who said I wanted more deaths - can you confirm that you think that’s a reasonable inference to make from my posts?

Thank you for confirming that you see it as wrong and offensive
The fact you needed me to confirm that with you just highlights how you view posters that disagree with you and have an alternative view on something. Explains a lot tbh

I don’t think a debate is possible about Israel on Mumsnet. It’s the same few posters regularly attacking any views in support of Palestinian people. It’s a complete waste of time.

A bit of backtracking there in your explanation, does not really make much sense tbh you say

I was referring to all the people in society who say they are not antisemitic because no one admits to that) but just have a special hatred for Israel and in some cases, Jews around the world.
So who are these people and why say it in the context of posters who have been critical of the Israeli government and the IDF

You also said this:
Yes it's a good point well made @Emilesgran that Israel only attack those who are attacking them.
People who won't acknowledge that just can't see beyond hating Israel so they have to divert attention from that simple truth.
Again you are indirectly talking about posters here and it is obvious

was very pointedly made at her.
Yes they were clear about the tone they were getting from the post and their previous posts

@Boolabus thank you for confirming that you see it as wrong and offensive that some posters have denied that women were raped on 7/10/23.

I understand that this was very much a minority view.

I don't think I word things clumsily. I am a lot more careful with my wording for example than posters who think it's ok to attack others on a personal level by accusing them of "wanting more deaths".

To clarify, when I said They just have a special hatred for Israel and in some cases, Jews generally I was referring to all the people in society who say they are not antisemitic (because no one admits to that) but* *just have a special hatred for Israel and in some cases, Jews around the world.

That was not aimed at any poster on MN whereas @Alexandra2001 comment that @Emilesgran "wanted more deaths" was very pointedly made at her.

I have not said that all posters here hate Israel or that any one individual poster hates Israel
I am sorry but you have, I have listed examples above and that is just today. Maybe you need to think more about what you post and what your intent is. becasue if it is not to say or insinuate that posters you are responding to hate Israel you are clearly wording things clumsily

I have not seen one person justify the deaths of innocent Palestinians
Well we have seen and read different posts so. Maybe your definition of justification is different to others, there are many examples on this thread alone

though I have seen posters deny that women were raped on 7/10/23.
And that was wrong, offensove and isolated, the majority of posters did not.

I have not seen one person justify the deaths of innocent Palestinians though I have seen posters deny that women were raped on 7/10/23.

You cannot be serious.

I have not said that all posters here hate Israel or that any one individual poster hates Israel. But pro Israel posters regularly get insulted by suggestions that they don't care about things like children dying or in the case we just saw, that @Emilesgran "wanted more deaths". That's such a ridiculous allegation especially on a parenting website of all places.

I have not seen one person justify the deaths of innocent Palestinians though I have seen posters deny that women were raped on 7/10/23.

Well you have said this back thread and haven't clarified who you were talking about,
They just have a special hatred for Israel and in some cases, Jews generally.

you have just responded with "Yeah Right" to a poster that said they are not anti Israel, you have called posters "obsession" with Israel a sign that they are anti Israel and that is just in the last few minutes.

No one here is obsessed.

We will apply the same logic therefore to the anti Palestinian posters

sorry forgot to quote post

going to answer my question about who you were referring to here?
They just have a special hatred for Israel and in some cases, Jews generally.
Yeah right.
So you are saying that posters here hate Israel? is that where you are at? That is a pretty offensive and inflammatory thing to say, are you going to back it up with anything at all or is it just a feeling?
I have not seen one poster try and justify Israeli civilian deaths but multiple posters justify Palestinian deaths, rape, child abuse and starvation all the time. Wonder who the haters are

On a thread about CITME, again pretty hypocritical statement coming from a poster that posts and starts more threads than anyone else here

going to answer my question about who you were referring to here?
They just have a special hatred for Israel and in some cases, Jews generally.

Yeah right.
So you are saying that posters here hate Israel? is that where you are at? That is a pretty offensive and inflammatory thing to say, are you going to back it up with anything at all or is it just a feeling?

I have not seen one poster try and justify Israeli civilian deaths but multiple posters justify Palestinian deaths, rape, child abuse and starvation all the time. Wonder who the haters are

But an obsession with that one country does.

Why don't you join Ellen then by pointing out where I have called a person on MN antisemitic. I try to stay away from personal attacks.

Calling out the horrendous actions of a government does not make you anti that country .

Good argument though.

Yes this, complete hypocrisy

Yeah right.

I don't demonise individual posters or call them antisemitic (though sometimes I think they are antisemitic).

Prove me wrong if you think you can by pointing out where I have called a person antisemitic.

There are no anti Israel posters . Just posters calling out atrocities.

What a farcical comment from someone who routinely demonises posters criticising the abhorrent actions of the Israeli government as anti semitic.

Staggering hypocrisy.

I know and it’s the same tactic anti Israel posters on these threads use over and over again. Demonise those who hold different opinions rather than attempting to debate properly with them.

It’s a stupid tactic & very obvious. Nevertheless occasionally I feel the need to call it out.

The poster knows very well that I wasn’t saying that I “wanted more deaths”. That’s a - rather poor - strategy to point-score in an argument, not an actual belief.