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Israel votes for death penalty for Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks

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CanAnybodyFindMe · 31/03/2026 14:07

“Israel's far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir wore a noose pin on his lapel to signal his support for the bill”

I first heard about this on Facebook and thought it might be anti-Israel fake news. But no, it’s true.

Absolutely horrifying and sickening.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8dkd6lnjdo

Itamar Ben-Gvir wearing a black suit, red tie and white kippah, talking on a podium in front of Israeli flags

Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks face death penalty under new Israeli law

The new law, passed on Monday, was pushed hard by the far-right and Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8dkd6lnjdo

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SunnyAfternoonToday · 01/04/2026 09:16

'Ben Gvir the politician who championed the bill has been convicted 8 times of anti Arab terrorism and also defends IDF soldiers to rape Palestinian inmates. That is Israel.'

It is not Israel. It is one man who holds the balance of power in Netanyahu's government. A truly bad apple but don't tar all Israelis as believing or behaving the same as him.

CanAnybodyFindMe · 01/04/2026 09:16

Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:53

As I keep saying, you're clouding the issue.
And your questions are pointless. Sorry.

If I were you, OP, (and Ive mentioned this already) Id be looking at the fact they are being tried in a military court..... far more fruitful for your discussion.......🧐

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I’m not clouding the issue. I am asking you a question about your understanding of the purpose of this legislation. The purpose is clear to all. You are unwilling to answer because you don’t want to admit the purpose.

You are not discussing in good faith on this thread. Your repeated appeals to “let’s stick to the facts” whilst refusing to discuss uncomfortable facts, your criticism of me for “being emotional” (we’re talking about potentially hanging children ffs) and your attempts to change the subject away from the death penalty to military courts all demonstrate thiis.

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Martymcfly24 · 01/04/2026 09:11

Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:53

As I keep saying, you're clouding the issue.
And your questions are pointless. Sorry.

If I were you, OP, (and Ive mentioned this already) Id be looking at the fact they are being tried in a military court..... far more fruitful for your discussion.......🧐

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You do know the military courts try all the "crimes" committed by Palestinians including traffic offenses .

Alexandra2001 · 01/04/2026 09:08

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Alexandra2001 · 01/04/2026 09:07

justanotherpassword · 01/04/2026 08:54

Sickening

Sickening bunch of Old Testament lunatics and what the Palestinians have to contend with.

Boolabus · 01/04/2026 09:05

Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:37

That's the application of the law not the law itself. Although as I understand the law hasn't come into effect yet so we can't tell how it will be applied. Presumably if only Palestinians commit deadly terrorist attacks it will only be Palestinians that will be tried for the crimes.

Israel is at war as well and presumably will consider all Palestinians in Israel as the potential enemy as we did with Germans in the UK during the War.

I'm glad my hints regarding the military court have been picked up on by someone as that would be a more fruitful path to go down in my opinion.....are we not talking Geneva Convention issues here PEOPLE??? Honestly. I have to do everyone's work for them 😆

Israel is at war as well and presumably will consider all Palestinians in Israel as the potential enemy as we did with Germans in the UK during the War.
So Palestinians living their life in the occupied West Bank are the enemy? Good to know where your views are at, explains a lot, engaging pointless

justanotherpassword · 01/04/2026 09:04

TheVeloursImgonnaChangeNsoul · 01/04/2026 08:59

That's twisted🤯 Have to own a very disturbed mind to come up with that and to wear it.

And they seem to be running the show in Israel whilst Netanyahu hides in his bunker.

How anyone can defend this law is beyond me. A noose.

TheVeloursImgonnaChangeNsoul · 01/04/2026 08:59

justanotherpassword · 01/04/2026 08:54

Sickening

That's twisted🤯 Have to own a very disturbed mind to come up with that and to wear it.

justanotherpassword · 01/04/2026 08:54

Twiglets1 · 01/04/2026 08:52

No it's not normal behaviour.

I imagine we can all agree on that.

Sickening

Israel votes for death penalty for Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks
Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:53

CanAnybodyFindMe · 01/04/2026 08:31

You didn’t answer my questions.

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As I keep saying, you're clouding the issue.
And your questions are pointless. Sorry.

If I were you, OP, (and Ive mentioned this already) Id be looking at the fact they are being tried in a military court..... far more fruitful for your discussion.......🧐

Twiglets1 · 01/04/2026 08:52

GateauSVP · 01/04/2026 08:20

The people promoting this law were wearing badges depicting a noose.

That's not normal behaviour.

If you're defending this bill then something has clearly gone wrong somewhere...

No it's not normal behaviour.

I imagine we can all agree on that.

Twiglets1 · 01/04/2026 08:45

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It is factually true that the UK cannot tell other countries what to do with regard to their own laws.

That may be annoying to you but anyway.

Twiglets1 · 01/04/2026 08:42

CanAnybodyFindMe · 01/04/2026 08:06

People are defending Israel bringing in an law aimed at Palestinians which is clearly based on racial/ethnic discrimination and oppression. The fact that those same people are against the death penalty in all situations does not negate that they are defending (minimising, explaining, excusing, justifying) Israel’s actions.

No we aren't, assuming you include me in this.

Most are just trying to be factual about this new law.

I'm not defending the fact the Israel parliament has approved a law that would make the death penalty the default sentence for those convicted of deadly terror attacks.

They are a democratic country and not many other democratic countries have the death penalty (notable exceptions are Singapore, Japan & some states in the US)

TheVeloursImgonnaChangeNsoul · 01/04/2026 08:40

They'll get a fair trial
Kangaroo court style.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:37

Boolabus · 01/04/2026 08:31

Absolutely and it has already been explained to them twice. @Pineneedlesincarpet It is not about the crime it is who is committing the crime. Terrorist activity killing Palestinians in in the West Bank = zero punishment, terrorist activity carried out by a Palestinian against an Israeli = tried in a military court and death penalty within 90 days if convicted, a court that currently has an over 90% conviction rate and tries juveniles in the military court.

That's the application of the law not the law itself. Although as I understand the law hasn't come into effect yet so we can't tell how it will be applied. Presumably if only Palestinians commit deadly terrorist attacks it will only be Palestinians that will be tried for the crimes.

Israel is at war as well and presumably will consider all Palestinians in Israel as the potential enemy as we did with Germans in the UK during the War.

I'm glad my hints regarding the military court have been picked up on by someone as that would be a more fruitful path to go down in my opinion.....are we not talking Geneva Convention issues here PEOPLE??? Honestly. I have to do everyone's work for them 😆

Alexandra2001 · 01/04/2026 08:35

Badabingyabadabadoo · 01/04/2026 08:32

Yet people will still defend Israel

Whats sad is Israel knows only too well about what its like to be on the receiving end of persecuting but still has no problem inflicting this on other minorities.

They are losing the good will they have enjoyed for decades very rapidly.

Badabingyabadabadoo · 01/04/2026 08:32

Yet people will still defend Israel

Alexandra2001 · 01/04/2026 08:32

Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:27

Yes I agree. That's particularly hideous. I don't think people are defending the bill. I'm against capital punishment full stop.

I just am discussing the suggestion it means Israel is an "apartheid " state and the law is discriminatory. Which is worth looking at as these words are thrown around willynilly these days and the truth and facts are obscured. Which doesn't help anyone, let alone the Palestinians.

Anyone reading what you re posting will get the impression you re not interested in helping the Palestinians.

OR you are just looking for an argument, not sure which really.

Its very clear that many Israelis see the Palestinians as "Sub Human"

I hope their Supreme Court strikes this bill down but i wont hold my breath.

Boolabus · 01/04/2026 08:31

BedlamEveryday · 01/04/2026 08:25

You are ignoring the actions of Israelis and settlers against Palestinians, and that these two are terror attacks.

Your refusal to acknowledge speaks volumes.

Absolutely and it has already been explained to them twice. @Pineneedlesincarpet It is not about the crime it is who is committing the crime. Terrorist activity killing Palestinians in in the West Bank = zero punishment, terrorist activity carried out by a Palestinian against an Israeli = tried in a military court and death penalty within 90 days if convicted, a court that currently has an over 90% conviction rate and tries juveniles in the military court.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:31

BedlamEveryday · 01/04/2026 08:25

You are ignoring the actions of Israelis and settlers against Palestinians, and that these two are terror attacks.

Your refusal to acknowledge speaks volumes.

I'm not sure it speaks anything at all, really. I don't think it helps when it comes to law to get emotional and bring in other issues. We can preface everything we write with a caveat about all the other bad things going on and our opinion on those but Im not sure that would move things on re the issue of a particular law.

CanAnybodyFindMe · 01/04/2026 08:31

Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:29

None of your points progress the discussion regarding the actual law itself though. You"re being emotional which is not a bad thing in itself but doesn't help actually getting to the truth.

You didn’t answer my questions.

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Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:29

CanAnybodyFindMe · 01/04/2026 08:27

“Israel's far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir wore a noose pin on his lapel to signal his support for the bill”

Do you think Ben-Gvir was hoping this legislation would be used against Israeli Jews when he wore his noose lapel badge? Do you think the legislators toasting the success of the bill with champagne were looking forward to it being used against Israeli Jews? Or are you able to admit, as we all know, that the death penalty by hanging is only intended for and will only be used against Palestinians?

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None of your points progress the discussion regarding the actual law itself though. You"re being emotional which is not a bad thing in itself but doesn't help actually getting to the truth.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:27

GateauSVP · 01/04/2026 08:20

The people promoting this law were wearing badges depicting a noose.

That's not normal behaviour.

If you're defending this bill then something has clearly gone wrong somewhere...

Yes I agree. That's particularly hideous. I don't think people are defending the bill. I'm against capital punishment full stop.

I just am discussing the suggestion it means Israel is an "apartheid " state and the law is discriminatory. Which is worth looking at as these words are thrown around willynilly these days and the truth and facts are obscured. Which doesn't help anyone, let alone the Palestinians.

CanAnybodyFindMe · 01/04/2026 08:27

Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:18

Give your argument that their actions are "racist, oppressive and abhorrent" in clear objective terms so we can see what you think and judge accordingly. You aren't in a vacuum. People can be persuaded by clear arguments. Look at the facts and then make your argument. Rather than sounding off about other people's comments on your own thread.

“Israel's far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir wore a noose pin on his lapel to signal his support for the bill”

Do you think Ben-Gvir was hoping this legislation would be used against Israeli Jews when he wore his noose lapel badge? Do you think the legislators toasting the success of the bill with champagne were looking forward to it being used against Israeli Jews? Or are you able to admit, as we all know, that the death penalty by hanging is only intended for and will only be used against Palestinians?

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BedlamEveryday · 01/04/2026 08:25

Pineneedlesincarpet · 01/04/2026 08:24

If you read what I wrote you will see that I am using it as an example of a situation where it would be ridiculous not to have a law against knife crime just because statistically one ethnic group are more likely to commit knife crime. That's not discriminatory. It's just fact. I'm not sure why some people on this thread have failed to understand this point

Similarly in the Palestinian case, just because one group are more likely to commit a particular crime doesn't mean you shouldnt have a law against that crime.

Now give me your arguments against the points I raised rather than spouting the old kneejerk of "you're a racist".

You are ignoring the actions of Israelis and settlers against Palestinians, and that these two are terror attacks.

Your refusal to acknowledge speaks volumes.

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