Israel votes for death penalty for Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks

Funny you should say that, was only thinking that the other day.

I think this is a really good point. People see Israel as a special case because of what they saw online. It's important to question why you are not seeing (or being shown) similar footage of events in Yemen, Afghanistan etc. Because sources are so unreliable, it's hard to know what did really happen and what didn't, but visceral and horrific imagery has disproportionately been spread about this conflict compared to others. It's interesting to consider why.

I think this is a really good point. People see Israel as a special case because of what they saw online. It's important to question why you are not seeing (or being shown) similar footage of events in Yemen, Afghanistan etc. Because sources are so unreliable, it's hard to know what did really happen and what didn't, but visceral and horrific imagery has disproportionately been spread about this conflict compared to others. It's interesting to consider why.

People know what they saw with their own eyes. Israeli bombs leaving people with injuries that the worst imagination couldn't come up with. You can blame Hamas all you like but people know what they saw. They saw IDF soldiers dancing in the underwear of the women that they killed, forcing Drs to abandon babies in their incubators, they saw the IDF shooting people as they tried to rescue their loved ones, dropping bombs on rescue workers in double tap strikes, killing children queuing up for water. People saw all of that and no 'blame Hamas' can change what people saw. That coupled with the most repulsive rhetoric from members of the Israeli government, IDF and some members of the Israeli public. It has all been stomach churningly awful to watch and to hear. Nothing can erase that, people know what they have seen from Israel and it has been repulsive.

Should that mean that people care more about Palestinians than the people they haven't seen starved and bombed and tortured, probably not but it's human nature to care about people when you see them being treated worse than you could ever have imagined day after day, month after month.

Sadly there will always be casualties in a war zone, blame hamas for putting everyone in harms way.

Did you really see people carrying body parts in carrier bags? I wouldn't believe everything hamas pedals tbh. One of their main pr men was apparently killed about 7 times, until he finally actually was. By hamas.

No there hasn't been all that much outrage at all considering - the coverage was mostly people asking why so few famous sports journalists and athletes had anything to say about his execution. There's been no campaign to have Iran banned from international sports comparable to the fuss about Israel, despite Iran also having kidnapped the families of those women footballers in Australia to force them to withdraw their requests for asylum - where are those women now? Probably either dead or in prison awaiting execution.

And as for last week: Saleh Mohammadi was hanged in mid March. But never mind, there have been many others since - three the same time as him, and an 18 year old musician Amirhossein Hatami only two days ago - again, very little talk about that. Maybe you'd missed that?

Oh as well as Kouroush Keyvani, a dual Swedish-Iranian national, and others as well that we've barely heard of.

But people who shrug their shoulders at all those executions, and even cheer the downing of an American plane by Iran because they want Iran to beat the US, are outraged at a bill that hasn't yet been used even once.

And I see you mention Afghanistan: how much protest was there when Ireland played Afghanistan at cricket last year? Seems most people don't care that much about Afghan women. Cricket is more important clearly.

I think that the way people actually saw the horror in Gaza has influenced the way they feel. The visceral revulsion they feel towards the IDF and the Israeli government. Day after day after day people watched children screaming with various parts of their bodies blown off, they saw rows and rows and rows of dead children, beheaded babies, children screaming for their dead parents, entire families killed in their beds, people carrying the remains of their loved ones in plastic bags, people having limbs cut off with no anaesthetic because Israel decided they couldn't have any, peoole squashed by tanks and on and on it went day after day after, row after row after row of dead people.

Like you said about your photo Anyone who can look at the this picture and side with the perpetrators, or think "Yeah, I can see how you would do that to someone" is not someone I would want to meet in real life that's exactly how millions of people feel about Israel after seeing the horror that they created. Pure revulsion at the regime that did that to people for 18months and then decided to starve them on top.

Maybe you're new to MN ...(welcome) ... photos often take a while to appear.

MN mods have to vet them all because there was a spate of dodgy photos recently.

So you missed FIFA announcing a special council meeting in 2024 to consider suspending the Israel Football Association from international competitions? Or the various Arab sports associations calling for Israel to be banned from the 2024 Summer Olympics, even though Belarus and Russia were allowed to be there? And 200 Irish athletes also demanded that Israel be excluded. Not to mention Ireland boycotting the Eurovision because Israel was allowed to take part.

Or to name a few artists, there's Donal Lunny, Elvis Costello or Massive Attack who've all expressed their fury at Israel.
Plus the current President, and the former one. Don't forget that Michael D sent a letter of congratulations to Iranian president Peshezkian on his election (and then accused Israel of having made the letter public when in fact it was Iran!) Not a word in that letter about the regime murdering people - he didn't seem to mind too much.

So maybe it's just your general lack of information, if you really haven't come across any of this.

No there hasn't been all that much outrage at all considering - the coverage was mostly people asking why so few famous sports journalists and athletes had anything to say about his execution. There's been no campaign to have Iran banned from international sports comparable to the fuss about Israel, despite Iran also having kidnapped the families of those women footballers in Australia to force them to withdraw their requests for asylum - where are those women now? Probably either dead or in prison awaiting execution.

And as for last week: Saleh Mohammadi was hanged in mid March. But never mind, there have been many others since - three the same time as him, and an 18 year old musician Amirhossein Hatami only two days ago - again, very little talk about that. Maybe you'd missed that?

Oh as well as Kouroush Keyvani, a dual Swedish-Iranian national, and others as well that we've barely heard of.

But people who shrug their shoulders at all those executions, and even cheer the downing of an American plane by Iran because they want Iran to beat the US, are outraged at a bill that hasn't yet been used even once.

And I see you mention Afghanistan: how much protest was there when Ireland played Afghanistan at cricket last year? Seems most people don't care that much about Afghan women. Cricket is more important clearly.

The picture I intended to post didn't appear - not sure why. I posted it subsequently.

No there hasn't been all that much outrage at all considering - the coverage was mostly people asking why so few famous sports journalists and athletes had anything to say about his execution. There's been no campaign to have Iran banned from international sports comparable to the fuss about Israel, despite Iran also having kidnapped the families of those women footballers in Australia to force them to withdraw their requests for asylum - where are those women now? Probably either dead or in prison awaiting execution.

And as for last week: Saleh Mohammadi was hanged in mid March. But never mind, there have been many others since - three the same time as him, and an 18 year old musician Amirhossein Hatami only two days ago - again, very little talk about that. Maybe you'd missed that?

Oh as well as Kouroush Keyvani, a dual Swedish-Iranian national, and others as well that we've barely heard of.

But people who shrug their shoulders at all those executions, and even cheer the downing of an American plane by Iran because they want Iran to beat the US, are outraged at a bill that hasn't yet been used even once.

And I see you mention Afghanistan: how much protest was there when Ireland played Afghanistan at cricket last year? Seems most people don't care that much about Afghan women. Cricket is more important clearly.

Your Comment has nothing to do with those figures from 2008 to 2020
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why tag me with an irrelevant comment

I think it is you that does not understand it, or prefers to pretend not to understand.

Agree with double standards. I am against the death penalty so will condemn any country using it.

How nice of you to be ok with not understanding the point you are trying to make.

what happened to dont do the crime ?

And the answer?

"Never mind Israel imposing the death penalty, Iran does too"

No it doesn't imply that they support the law though - it implies that there's a double standard going on, which there is.

And dismissing that as "whataboutery" is disingenuous. Hence my example.

It's ok if you don't understand the point though.

Nobody said that? Maybe not those exact words, the 'but' added implies it.

As for your question, what has that got to do with this thread?