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Two short videos showing Israelis protesting against Israel's war against Iran and Israelis protesting against Israel state police

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timeforreflection · 25/03/2026 13:50

Two short videos showing Israelis protesting against the actions of the Israeli state, and Israelis protesting against Israel state police.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6dJFfliqKQs

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SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 17:42

timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 17:40

This is an Iranian academic - SharonEllis will tell you that he is a religious fanatic who is a regime supporter - but I think it is worth listening to every word as we will all be affected by the outcome of what is going on right now in the ME

You have no idea what I would say. About anything.

SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 17:41

timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 17:36

Oh my goodness, this is just shocking, but I will bite. Link one single "reliable expert" who came up with those figures for January. Just one. If it is the source which will not say who funds it and will not say how it got its information (how it managed to compile 30000 in two days from outside Iran....) then no, it is not a reliable expert. Facts matter.

I thought you weren't engaging with me ??

timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 17:40

IrishSelkie · 27/03/2026 17:36

I am interested in your multiple expert sources on the death toll of tens of thousands. I went searching for sources recently and couldn’t find any numbers that I’d call reliable. I did find many caveats that since Iran has imposed a complete information and internet blackout, it is difficult to get reliable figures. If you could share them, I would appreciate it! Maybe like in WWII a courier snuck across the border with intel?

This is an Iranian academic - SharonEllis will tell you that he is a religious fanatic who is a regime supporter - but I think it is worth listening to every word as we will all be affected by the outcome of what is going on right now in the ME

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IrishSelkie · 27/03/2026 17:36

SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 17:33

Why on earth would my posts not stand. The slaughter of 10s of 1000s of Iranians has been researched and documented by reliable experts. Its the nature of such a brutal regime that we will never know the true number but noone credible denies it.

I am interested in your multiple expert sources on the death toll of tens of thousands. I went searching for sources recently and couldn’t find any numbers that I’d call reliable. I did find many caveats that since Iran has imposed a complete information and internet blackout, it is difficult to get reliable figures. If you could share them, I would appreciate it! Maybe like in WWII a courier snuck across the border with intel?

timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 17:36

SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 17:33

Why on earth would my posts not stand. The slaughter of 10s of 1000s of Iranians has been researched and documented by reliable experts. Its the nature of such a brutal regime that we will never know the true number but noone credible denies it.

Oh my goodness, this is just shocking, but I will bite. Link one single "reliable expert" who came up with those figures for January. Just one. If it is the source which will not say who funds it and will not say how it got its information (how it managed to compile 30000 in two days from outside Iran....) then no, it is not a reliable expert. Facts matter.

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timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 17:34

SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 17:29

Ask any Iranian dissident and they will tell you the people in charge of of their own country are religious lunatics. They are fanatical extremists. What are you trying to achieve with these posts?

What are you trying to achieve with your posts?

It seems that the fact that your posts are not being deleted you think you have free rein to say whatever you want. I am not engaging with you any more, I don't have the patience, sorry.

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SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 17:33

timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 17:28

I am astounded that your posts are allowed to stand to be honest. When you say 10s of 1000s are you referring to January? Because the UK gov website doesn't agree with you.

I hope that this is a respectul enough way to express it.

Why on earth would my posts not stand. The slaughter of 10s of 1000s of Iranians has been researched and documented by reliable experts. Its the nature of such a brutal regime that we will never know the true number but noone credible denies it.

SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 17:29

timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 16:51

"religious lunatics" - is this sort of speech allowed here? Just because it isn't your religion? I think your post is appalling given that normal people in the region are being killed and having their lives ripped apart.

Ask any Iranian dissident and they will tell you the people in charge of of their own country are religious lunatics. They are fanatical extremists. What are you trying to achieve with these posts?

timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 17:28

SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 17:23

Reported for what exactly? The Islamic Republic has slaughtered 10s of 1000s of its own citizens and been behind the deaths of 1000s more around the world. No decent person thinks they are a force for good.

I am astounded that your posts are allowed to stand to be honest. When you say 10s of 1000s are you referring to January? Because the UK gov website doesn't agree with you.

I hope that this is a respectul enough way to express it.

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SunnyAfternoonToday · 27/03/2026 17:28

AudHvamm · 27/03/2026 17:16

I think given how clear it is who the aggressors are in this war many people are understandably questioning whether narratives that have been accepted as fact for decades are, in fact, subjective.

I hope you include Iran as an aggressor in this war. For many years they have financed and armed their proxies not only in the ME (Hamas, Hizbollah, Houtis) but also sleeper cells elsewhere in the world as has been witnessed by terrorist attacks in North America, Australia, Europe and the UK.

IrishSelkie · 27/03/2026 17:26

AudHvamm · 27/03/2026 17:16

I think given how clear it is who the aggressors are in this war many people are understandably questioning whether narratives that have been accepted as fact for decades are, in fact, subjective.

I have no doubt in my mind that the Iranian regime is evil.

For me, it is the fact that whatever regime replaces the current regime in Iran is an unknown so we cannot say with any certainty if toppling the current regime would lead to a more safe or less safe Iran, Middle East or world.

@SharonEllis must have a crystal ball to be so certain when history has shown more often than not, regime change by outside military force ends up making the country and region less safe for civilians, especially women.

SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 17:26

timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 16:39

I don't think torture and killing and breaches of human rights are acceptable anywhere, but there are diplomatic channels which should be used to address concerns, whether concerns about Iran, Israel, the UK, the US or anywhere else.

What diplomatic channels have stopped the Islamic Rwpublic oppressing its citizens, imprisoning them torturing them and murdering them over the decades and in vast numbers in the last few months? This is demonstrable nonsense.

SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 17:23

timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 16:52

And to you too - what an appalling post given that men, women and children are being bombed in Iran at the moment. Reported.

Reported for what exactly? The Islamic Republic has slaughtered 10s of 1000s of its own citizens and been behind the deaths of 1000s more around the world. No decent person thinks they are a force for good.

AudHvamm · 27/03/2026 17:16

SunnyAfternoonToday · 27/03/2026 17:08

Seems so. Bizarre.

I think given how clear it is who the aggressors are in this war many people are understandably questioning whether narratives that have been accepted as fact for decades are, in fact, subjective.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 27/03/2026 17:08

SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 06:56

My god. Are we really at the stage where we are arguing about whether the world would be a safer place without the Islamic Republic of Iran?

Seems so. Bizarre.

timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 16:52

SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 06:56

My god. Are we really at the stage where we are arguing about whether the world would be a safer place without the Islamic Republic of Iran?

And to you too - what an appalling post given that men, women and children are being bombed in Iran at the moment. Reported.

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timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 16:51

Twiglets1 · 27/03/2026 05:33

Regarding the people of Iran, Lebanon & Palestine, I don’t know how they can feel safe under the IRCG, Hamas & Hezbollah.

Jewish people certainly don’t feel safe.

The Middle East would be a safer place without those religious lunatics.

"religious lunatics" - is this sort of speech allowed here? Just because it isn't your religion? I think your post is appalling given that normal people in the region are being killed and having their lives ripped apart.

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timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 16:39

I don't think torture and killing and breaches of human rights are acceptable anywhere, but there are diplomatic channels which should be used to address concerns, whether concerns about Iran, Israel, the UK, the US or anywhere else.

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timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 16:32

Twiglets1 · 27/03/2026 07:08

Apparently so @SharonEllis

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timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 16:32

SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 06:56

My god. Are we really at the stage where we are arguing about whether the world would be a safer place without the Islamic Republic of Iran?

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timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 16:31

SharonEllis · 26/03/2026 21:30

My Iranian friends will feel safer.

My Jewish friends will feel safer.

Iran is the biggest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, funding, training and directing proxy terrorists and militias across the Middle East and sponsoring surveillance, intelligence and sleeper cells across the west.

You have a small group of friends who will feel safer, possibly because you and they believe that a coup in Iran will take the world to the land of rainbows and unicorns. Whereas the Jewish people in the videos who are saying "no" have a better grasp of the realities. Edited to point out that only people who have no knowledge of the history of the region or of the different cultures in the region will believe the rainbows and unicorns - and this is what is being exploited here.

The only people who will benefit from the coup are the small power groups who have pushed for it from the background. They want a coup in Iran and then to take control steadily of the entire region. What you say about Iran is their narrative, not normal peoples' narrative.

I would like to see a 2 state solution allowing for a Jewish state and a Palestinian state, and I think protection of all people including the Jewish people is very important. But reaching a 2 state agreement will require Israel to stop thinking they can take land around them by force. Is that possible, SharonEllis?

i think before posting again you should watch the videos and find more and listen to what they are saying.

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timeforreflection · 27/03/2026 16:20

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SharonEllis · 27/03/2026 10:41

Really? I don't know anyone personally who says that. I didn't say it either.

Ellen2shoes · 27/03/2026 09:04

Sadly, we are at the stage where some believe that the world will be safer in the hands of Trump and Net, as they openly brag about the bombing and killing of thousands of innocent civilians.

Twiglets1 · 27/03/2026 07:08

Apparently so @SharonEllis

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