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Should the international community sanction Israel over settler violence in West Bank?

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FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 20:03

The problem of Israeli terrorism is getting worse and worse. Just over the past few weeks amongst other things Israeli terrorists have killed multiple people, commited sexual assault, beaten and threatened to rape young Palestinian girls, continually attacked the residents and property of the only remaining fully Christian town in the West Bank, stolen 100s of sheep from the Bedouin community, beaten activists who are there to provide a protective presence to Palestinians, set fire to property.

Palestinians don't have the right to defend themselves from this violent, rapidly escalating Israeli terrorism. They can't arrest and detain the Israeli terrorists. They are sitting ducks with no means of protecting themselves from beatings and sexual violence. Is it time that the international community steps in and sanctions Israel until they can control their obvious terrorism problem? What else can be done to try and protect innocent people from this escalating Israeli violence?

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FloralDeerPattern · 30/08/2026 13:29

Newbutoldfather · 30/08/2026 12:02

@Squeezingwildoranges ,

‘And you really believe he opposes the violence? His condemnations are empty words for the international cameras. Perhaps you didn't hear about the old Palestinian who got shot in the leg for trying to stop settlers/terrorists from stealing his olive grove only for the IDF to arrest and fine him and his son. No consequences for the terrorists.’

I tend to agree here. He says one thing in Hebrew to a domestic audience, especially away from Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and another to the English language press.

In addition , he neither muzzles nor sacks the open racists in his government.

The other thing I don’t understand is why the IDF are doing the policing. The military hate policing and aren’t trained for it. They need a proper police force to enforce the law without fear or favour.

I tend to agree here. He says one thing in Hebrew to a domestic audience, especially away from Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and another to the English language press.

I saw Israelis discussing(laughing about) this on reddit, they were saying how it's quite common for Israelis to have one answer in Hebrew and one answer in English when asked about 'settlers'.

I'm not as sure as some that the elections in Israel are cut and dry. Israelis like most of us care most of us about their daily lives, the cost of living etc. If there are no meaningful sanctions put on Israel and it's not looking like there will be then the settlements and the settlers are overall a net positive.

The settlers and the IDF do the dirty work then you can move in, get a cheaper, larger home. Get tax breaks and subsidies for living in a settlement. You can get specialised mortgages for buying in some settlement areas. Great school and community facilities often funded by people overseas like the charities in the UK that sent millions to build Jewish schools in illegal settlements. There are lots of work and business opportunities too, new communities need builders, shops, cafes, Dr surgeries, teachers, salons etc etc.

It sounds harsh maybe but realistically most people where ever they are be it Israel or the UK care most about their own families, their standard of living and opportunities.

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Martymcfly24 · 30/08/2026 12:26

Condemning the people carrying out these attacks is mere lip service when they know they have the full weight of the military, police, government and him himself supporting their actions.

Headed by Itamar Ben-Gvir, this ministry has overseen the wide-scale distribution of over 120,000 firearms and assault rifles (such as US-made M16s), alongside pistols and drones, to settlers and residents in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem.

You can't give them guns then condemn them for using them .

rainingsnoring · 30/08/2026 12:10

Newbutoldfather · 30/08/2026 12:02

@Squeezingwildoranges ,

‘And you really believe he opposes the violence? His condemnations are empty words for the international cameras. Perhaps you didn't hear about the old Palestinian who got shot in the leg for trying to stop settlers/terrorists from stealing his olive grove only for the IDF to arrest and fine him and his son. No consequences for the terrorists.’

I tend to agree here. He says one thing in Hebrew to a domestic audience, especially away from Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and another to the English language press.

In addition , he neither muzzles nor sacks the open racists in his government.

The other thing I don’t understand is why the IDF are doing the policing. The military hate policing and aren’t trained for it. They need a proper police force to enforce the law without fear or favour.

Netanyahu does not want to do either of those things, although arguably for different reasons. The only way that all the horrific violence being carried out by various groups of Israelis is if the Western countries actually do something. This isn't going to happen.

Newbutoldfather · 30/08/2026 12:02

@Squeezingwildoranges ,

‘And you really believe he opposes the violence? His condemnations are empty words for the international cameras. Perhaps you didn't hear about the old Palestinian who got shot in the leg for trying to stop settlers/terrorists from stealing his olive grove only for the IDF to arrest and fine him and his son. No consequences for the terrorists.’

I tend to agree here. He says one thing in Hebrew to a domestic audience, especially away from Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and another to the English language press.

In addition , he neither muzzles nor sacks the open racists in his government.

The other thing I don’t understand is why the IDF are doing the policing. The military hate policing and aren’t trained for it. They need a proper police force to enforce the law without fear or favour.

Squeezingwildoranges · 30/08/2026 11:49

Twiglets1 · 30/08/2026 11:39

Both.

He is in favour of settlements in the West Bank and yes, thanked settler leaders a few days ago.

However, he spoke against the "criminal acts of violence” carried out by settlers in two Palestinian West Bank villages yesterday.

And you really believe he opposes the violence? His condemnations are empty words for the international cameras. Perhaps you didn't hear about the old Palestinian who got shot in the leg for trying to stop settlers/terrorists from stealing his olive grove only for the IDF to arrest and fine him and his son. No consequences for the terrorists.

Twiglets1 · 30/08/2026 11:39

Squeezingwildoranges · 30/08/2026 11:19

I posted earlier about a speech Netanyahu gave a few days ago to the settlers where he thanked them so which is it. Is he condemning them or is he thanking them.

Both.

He is in favour of settlements in the West Bank and yes, thanked settler leaders a few days ago.

However, he spoke against the "criminal acts of violence” carried out by settlers in two Palestinian West Bank villages yesterday.

Twiglets1 · 30/08/2026 11:23

Agree @Newbutoldfather we need to wait and see how many of the rioters end up in jail, if none then it's just empty words.

I would love to see Ben G’vir and Smotrich gone too (who wouldn't?) and the voters in Israel need to make sure this happens in the October elections. They are a complete liability to any political party.

Squeezingwildoranges · 30/08/2026 11:19

Newbutoldfather · 30/08/2026 11:05

@Twiglets1 ,

‘NBC ("because they were American" ) but also - as your source says - other incidents across the area on Saturday.

The Jerusalem Post reports that Netanyahu condemned violence committed by dozens of settler rioters who gathered on the outskirts of the village of Kusra in the West Bank on Saturday, igniting violent clashes with the local residents.
“I strongly condemn the criminal acts of violence committed in the villages of Kusra and Jalud by a handful of rioters who violate the law, cause enormous injustice to the law-abiding settler public, hinder the IDF in fulfilling its missions, and harm Israel’s standing in the world,” Netanyahu said in a statement.
Netanyahu added that security forces had ended the incident “in a short time” and confiscated three vehicles.
The IDF, the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency), and the police are conducting an investigation, Netanyahu said, adding that he expected the rioters to be arrested and brought to justice.’

It’s great to see this BUT the problem is anecdote isn’t data. Let’s see how many of the rioters end up with one day in jail.

And the statistics of dispossessed Palestinians vs any settlers receiving any consequences speak for themselves.

Hopefully, Israel is waking up to the international disgust over settler violence and is going to start taking it seriously.

But, for me to believe a word of it, I need to see Ben G’vir and Smotrich gone and Netanyahu publicly disavowing their statements.

I posted earlier about a speech Netanyahu gave a few days ago to the settlers where he thanked them so which is it. Is he condemning them or is he thanking them.

Newbutoldfather · 30/08/2026 11:05

@Twiglets1 ,

‘NBC ("because they were American" ) but also - as your source says - other incidents across the area on Saturday.

The Jerusalem Post reports that Netanyahu condemned violence committed by dozens of settler rioters who gathered on the outskirts of the village of Kusra in the West Bank on Saturday, igniting violent clashes with the local residents.
“I strongly condemn the criminal acts of violence committed in the villages of Kusra and Jalud by a handful of rioters who violate the law, cause enormous injustice to the law-abiding settler public, hinder the IDF in fulfilling its missions, and harm Israel’s standing in the world,” Netanyahu said in a statement.
Netanyahu added that security forces had ended the incident “in a short time” and confiscated three vehicles.
The IDF, the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency), and the police are conducting an investigation, Netanyahu said, adding that he expected the rioters to be arrested and brought to justice.’

It’s great to see this BUT the problem is anecdote isn’t data. Let’s see how many of the rioters end up with one day in jail.

And the statistics of dispossessed Palestinians vs any settlers receiving any consequences speak for themselves.

Hopefully, Israel is waking up to the international disgust over settler violence and is going to start taking it seriously.

But, for me to believe a word of it, I need to see Ben G’vir and Smotrich gone and Netanyahu publicly disavowing their statements.

Squeezingwildoranges · 30/08/2026 10:40

Ellen2shoes · 29/08/2026 17:23

Reveals just how endemic land theft has become in the state of Israel.
I welcome the news that Burnham is planning to sanction business from the illegal settlements - it’s at least a performative step in the right direction and better than nothing, but doesn’t this just prove that no one really cares? They don’t care because they know it won’t touch them. The only thing that will make a difference is the implementation (and not the threat as it’s too late for that) of full sanctions.

It is totally performative. If Burnham really wanted to do something all the groups and their members like Nachala, Yesha council, Amana, The Hilltop Youth and Lehava should be proscribed as terrorist organisations. Not just by the UK government, the UN should proscribe them too. I also think Religious Zionism and Otzma Yehudit should be included in that proscription along with their leaders Smotrich and Ben Gvir.

Twiglets1 · 30/08/2026 10:32

Martymcfly24 · 30/08/2026 09:59

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-nbc-news-team-attacked-masked-israeli-settlers-rcna595024
NBC crew attacked by the terrorists. Note after last week encouraging and praising the illegal settlements Netanyahu now condemns "the handful of rioters" .(Nice bit of minimisation) because they were American.

Agree that Netanyahu referring to a "handful of rioters" is minimising.

However, he was not just condemning that attack on a Palestinian woman and NBC ("because they were American" ) but also - as your source says - other incidents across the area on Saturday.

The Jerusalem Post reports that Netanyahu condemned violence committed by dozens of settler rioters who gathered on the outskirts of the village of Kusra in the West Bank on Saturday, igniting violent clashes with the local residents.

“I strongly condemn the criminal acts of violence committed in the villages of Kusra and Jalud by a handful of rioters who violate the law, cause enormous injustice to the law-abiding settler public, hinder the IDF in fulfilling its missions, and harm Israel’s standing in the world,” Netanyahu said in a statement.

Netanyahu added that security forces had ended the incident “in a short time” and confiscated three vehicles.

The IDF, the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency), and the police are conducting an investigation, Netanyahu said, adding that he expected the rioters to be arrested and brought to justice.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-906950

Twiglets1 · 30/08/2026 06:07

Your post was the one that got deleted so presumably that was an actual personal attack not just a comment on someone’s algorithms.

rainingsnoring · 30/08/2026 04:58

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Ellen2shoes · 29/08/2026 17:23

FloralDeerPattern · 27/08/2026 16:55

Looks like some of the so called Israeli left wants a piece of that West Bank pie too.

Gazit said he is aware of the damage West Bank settlements do to Palestinian rights, but argued that since new settlements will be built in the Jordan Valley in any case, it's preferable to have as many of them as possible populated by leftists.

If we don't steal it, somebody else will. It's a pretty grim attitude rather than focus on making government policy change and leaving Palestinian land to Palestinians they think that they will be a better type of occupiers so it's OK to take that free land, I mean Tel Aviv is expensive these days what are else are the youth supposed to do to get on that property ladder.

www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-security/2026-08-26/ty-article/.premium/israeli-leftist-youth-group-plans-kibbutz-style-settlement-in-jordan-valley/000001a0-3b22-d268-a1fe-3b7675040000

Reveals just how endemic land theft has become in the state of Israel.
I welcome the news that Burnham is planning to sanction business from the illegal settlements - it’s at least a performative step in the right direction and better than nothing, but doesn’t this just prove that no one really cares? They don’t care because they know it won’t touch them. The only thing that will make a difference is the implementation (and not the threat as it’s too late for that) of full sanctions.

oopsBSoD · 29/08/2026 10:27

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I didn't attack you personally, I simply questioned your choice to post a link to an unbelievably vile youtube channel. You're the one who seems to be going on the attack.

Newbutoldfather · 29/08/2026 08:21

@rainingsnoring ,

I agree with you about people picking up on petty arguments and trying to win semantic battles, rather than focusing on the big picture. However, I would only open links from reliable sources, for both safety and reliability. I don’t think that is quite the same.

I don’t think Netanyahu is meaningfully trying to control media output. What he does control though is access. I am not saying it is good, but I do think that it is less bad.

Unlike dictators in Iran and Russia, say, Netanyahu is not that popular and risks losing the election. That is a symptom of an effectively functioning media.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-urges-ben-gvir-smotrich-to-unite-as-poll-shows-winters-new-party-surging/amp/

https://en.idi.org.il/tags-en/1465

You just don’t get reporting like that in Iran or open demonstrations tolerated (as we have seen).

If you went to Tel Avov now, you could sit around a dinner table and openly put forward your views, and many would agree with you, especially about settler violence. That is why, although I am scared for Israel’s future, I am still hopeful that, like SA, they can change and integrate into the western community. It is far from guaranteed, but it is definitely possible.

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rainingsnoring · 29/08/2026 07:14

Newbutoldfather · 27/08/2026 07:42

@rainingsnoring ,

I think that these days, depressingly, it is so important to use reliable sources. I don’t even open links from dodgy sources, even if they seem interesting.

It is so easy with AI to make people say things that they never actually said.

Fair enough. I should have checked the source better.
I really don't think that was AI though. Do you? I'm not accusing you of this but I do think some people are so desperate to pick up on minor things, accuse other posters of this or that simply because they don't agree with their world view, that they keep missing the big picture.

Squeezingwildoranges · 28/08/2026 10:40

Just last Tuesday Netanyahu gave a speech delivered in Hebrew directly to West Bank settlers. The speech was reported on by Israeli media outlets like Channel 7 and the Times of Israel. In the speech he praised the crowd and told attendees, "You are fulfilling the vision of the Land of Israel, and this is our land. You are preparing the ground for a very large wave of immigration that will come."

Anyone who thinks the IDF will do anything to help the Palestinians when they are attacked by these foul settlers are dreaming. It is not random acts of violence by hooligans. It is state sponsored land theft.

https://www.threads.com/@middleeasteye/video/Dcg7KXijHcY/video-israeli-prime-minister-benjamin-netanyahu-vowed-to-continue-establishing/

Middle East Eye (@middleeasteye) on Threads

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to continue establishing settlements in the occupied West Bank despite mounting international pressure, while promising a major wave of Israeli immigration to the occupied Palestinian territory.

https://www.threads.com/@middleeasteye/video/Dcg7KXijHcY/video-israeli-prime-minister-benjamin-netanyahu-vowed-to-continue-establishing

FloralDeerPattern · 27/08/2026 16:55

Looks like some of the so called Israeli left wants a piece of that West Bank pie too.

Gazit said he is aware of the damage West Bank settlements do to Palestinian rights, but argued that since new settlements will be built in the Jordan Valley in any case, it's preferable to have as many of them as possible populated by leftists.

If we don't steal it, somebody else will. It's a pretty grim attitude rather than focus on making government policy change and leaving Palestinian land to Palestinians they think that they will be a better type of occupiers so it's OK to take that free land, I mean Tel Aviv is expensive these days what are else are the youth supposed to do to get on that property ladder.

www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-security/2026-08-26/ty-article/.premium/israeli-leftist-youth-group-plans-kibbutz-style-settlement-in-jordan-valley/000001a0-3b22-d268-a1fe-3b7675040000

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Martymcfly24 · 27/08/2026 16:51

I just read the Haaratz article@FloralDeerPattern .

I am truly shocked at the level of brazenness of the security forces. This is lawlessness . Is this the conditions residents of Gaza lived under for years as well.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-security/2026-08-25/ty-article/.premium/palestinian-woman-detained-after-claiming-settlers-set-fire-to-her-home/000001a0-35fb-d94e-abeb-ffff18530000

oopsBSoD · 27/08/2026 10:44

rainingsnoring · 26/08/2026 23:39

Was it an antisemitic channel? I looked on youtube to show the pp what Bibi had said about the importance of narrative control via the media and this was the first channel that came up. I've never used the channel before so have no idea whether it is designed to be antisemitic or not. The purpose was to show what Bibi had actually said, which demonstrated my point. Hope that clarifies things now.

Yeah, there were a whole bunch of videos spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories and Holocaust denial. Lots of Islamaphobic stuff too from mt recollection. I mean the channel name was something about new world order FFS.

If that's what is popping up for you your youtube algorithm must be wild.

FloralDeerPattern · 27/08/2026 09:44

Palestinians being arrested for reporting Israeli violence to the authorities while authorities just watch violent Israelis attack Palestinians.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/settlers-filmed-attacking-activists-reporters-in-front-of-idf-troops-none-arrested/

Israeli authorities have been holding a Palestinian woman in custody for almost a week after she filed a police complaint about settlers allegedly torching her home.

The woman has been charged in a military court with filing a false complaint and harming regional security. Police claim the fire in the southern West Bank hamlet of Khillet al-Farra was actually caused by an electrical failure.

The woman told Palestinian media hours after the fire overnight Wednesday-Thursday that she woke up in the middle of the night to noises from masked men outside speaking in Hebrew. She said she saw them pour flammable liquid into the house and set it on fire.

A WhatsApp group of settler extremists that shares footage of their attacks on Palestinians posted footage of the incident later that day before deleting the clip shortly thereafter.

When she went to file a complaint on Thursday at a nearby police station, authorities took her into custody, Haaretz said.

At a remand hearing on Monday, police failed to present the court with the fire department’s final report on its findings from its probe into the fire.

A police statement hours after the fire overnight Wednesday-Thursday declared that it had not been caused by settlers. But a police representative at the hearing acknowledged that the matter is still being investigated and that arson had not yet been ruled out as a potential cause.

Justifying the charge against the woman for allegedly harming regional security, the police representative claimed spreading false information could lead to acts of revenge against Israelis.

Despite the apparent inconsistency in the police story, the court ordered that the woman be kept in custody for four more days.

Reminder, this is what happens to Palestinians in Israeli detention. This poor woman is facing being starved, assaulted and humiliated by Israeli officers in detention all because she was the victim of crime and reported her home being set on fire.

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/7023/%E2%80%9CAnother-genocide-behind-walls%E2%80%9D:-Sexual-violence-in-Israeli-prisons-and-detention-centres-and-engineered-impunity-%28October-2023---October-2025%29

“Another genocide behind walls”: Sexual violence in Israeli prisons and detention centres and engineered impunity (October 2023 - October 2025)

Sexual violence against Palestinians in Israeli prisons and detention centres is a de facto state policy, used as a tool of subjugation and destruction

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/7023/%E2%80%9CAnother-genocide-behind-walls%E2%80%9D:-Sexual-violence-in-Israeli-prisons-and-detention-centres-and-engineered-impunity-(October-2023---October-2025)

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Twiglets1 · 27/08/2026 09:14

Newbutoldfather · 27/08/2026 07:42

@rainingsnoring ,

I think that these days, depressingly, it is so important to use reliable sources. I don’t even open links from dodgy sources, even if they seem interesting.

It is so easy with AI to make people say things that they never actually said.

Neither do I - even so-called reliable sources have to be taken with a large pinch of salt due to the likelihood of bias, but it's good to at least stick to legitimate sources (especially if sharing with others).

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