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Should the international community sanction Israel over settler violence in West Bank?

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FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 20:03

The problem of Israeli terrorism is getting worse and worse. Just over the past few weeks amongst other things Israeli terrorists have killed multiple people, commited sexual assault, beaten and threatened to rape young Palestinian girls, continually attacked the residents and property of the only remaining fully Christian town in the West Bank, stolen 100s of sheep from the Bedouin community, beaten activists who are there to provide a protective presence to Palestinians, set fire to property.

Palestinians don't have the right to defend themselves from this violent, rapidly escalating Israeli terrorism. They can't arrest and detain the Israeli terrorists. They are sitting ducks with no means of protecting themselves from beatings and sexual violence. Is it time that the international community steps in and sanctions Israel until they can control their obvious terrorism problem? What else can be done to try and protect innocent people from this escalating Israeli violence?

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FloralDeerPattern · 10/04/2026 19:16

Boolabus · 10/04/2026 18:20

More murders

The Israeli military said he was shot by an off-duty soldier and accused him of throwing stones.

Killed for throwing stones trying to protect greenhouses.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czrekrzzex1o

The killing came as ex-security chiefs warned that "government sponsored Jewish terrorism" was running wild in the West Bank and the Israeli government reportedly approved dozens more settlements.

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It really demonstrates that Palestinians have no right to self defence. With the Israeli government secretly legalising over 30 of these settlers outposts in the past month it's not something that is about to change any time soon.

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Boolabus · 10/04/2026 18:20

More murders

The Israeli military said he was shot by an off-duty soldier and accused him of throwing stones.

Killed for throwing stones trying to protect greenhouses.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czrekrzzex1o

The killing came as ex-security chiefs warned that "government sponsored Jewish terrorism" was running wild in the West Bank and the Israeli government reportedly approved dozens more settlements.

Alaa Khalid Subeih

Palestinian shot dead during Israeli settler attack on occupied West Bank village

The killing came as ex-security chiefs warned "government sponsored Jewish terrorism" was out of control.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czrekrzzex1o

Ellen2shoes · 02/04/2026 23:29

Finally voices are reported taking a stand -

MEP Barry Andrews calls the UE response to the attacks on Lebanon ‘weak and pathetic’

He is calling for the EU to revive sanctions against Israel, which were sidelined by the announcement of a ‘ceasefire’ in Gaza. He believes ‘the EU must respond to Israel’s attacks on Lebanon, but also state-backed settler violence in the West Bank, attacks on health workers in Gaza, and Israel’s potential reinstatement of the death penalty against Palestinians.’

‘Sven Kühn von Burgsdorff, the EU representative to the Palestinian territories until 2023, believes the EU should suspend this agreement with Israel, halt all military support and cease trade with illegal settlements. He fears that without action to defend international law in Gaza and the West Bank, the EU’s reputation “will be further severely affected”. He said: “The usual words of concern and condemnation are not enough; they are meaningless when not followed by effective measures to hold Israel to account.” ‘

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/02/why-eu-not-using-leverage-israel-lebanon-gaza

‘Weak and pathetic’: why is the EU not using its leverage to stop Israel?

Deep divisions on Israel mean the union has failed to act over Lebanon, Gaza, or settler violence in the West Bank

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/02/why-eu-not-using-leverage-israel-lebanon-gaza

FloralDeerPattern · 02/04/2026 09:20

And Israel are back to doing what they always do. The IDF protecting settlers as they set up their new outpost in the area they detained the CNN workers. Once the American journos go home it's back to business as usual.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/31/middleeast/israeli-settler-attacks-tayasir-latam-intl

Dozens of Israeli settlers returned to the West Bank village of Tayasir on Wednesday to build a new illegal settler outpost on its outskirts, days after a separate one was dismantled following a CNN report covering its establishment.

Local residents and eyewitnesses told CNN settlers arrived in the morning with a flock of sheep loaded onto the back of an army vehicle. Videos sent to CNN show Israeli soldiers and military jeeps providing protection to the settlers as they erect new tents.

An Israeli attorney representing a Palestinian Bedouin community that was displaced in the area also confirmed the military’s presence.

“The outpost was accompanied by military vehicles,” Dr. Netta Amar-Shiff told CNN. “It was built with the direct support and guard of the military.”

Five days earlier, settlers stormed the village of Tayasir, beating multiple residents and establishing an illegal outpost in the village. CNN witnessed Israeli troops standing idly by the new outpost before detaining multiple Palestinians and the CNN crew instead.

Israeli settlers renew attacks on West Bank village where Israeli soldiers detained, assaulted CNN crew | CNN

Israeli settlers on Tuesday mounted another attack in the West Bank village of Tayasir, days after a CNN team covering the establishment of an illegal settler outpost were detained and assaulted by Israeli soldiers.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/31/middleeast/israeli-settler-attacks-tayasir-latam-intl

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Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 17:03

Boolabus · 31/03/2026 16:55

Good thanks for clarifying, and to further clarify no one said Israelis were racist so let's leave it there.

I didn't think it would be controversial to say this case shows racism amongst certain parts of Israel not the whole country.

Happy to leave it there and thank you also for clarifying your position.

Boolabus · 31/03/2026 16:59

@Ellen2shoes I agree sanctions are the only option but it is extremely unlikely to ever happen unless there is a massive shift in how the international community respond to the Israeli governments treatment of Palestinians, which at the moment seems to be nothing more than strongly worded letters🙄

Boolabus · 31/03/2026 16:55

Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 16:09

No I didn’t because I’m not saying Palestinians are racist.

Good thanks for clarifying, and to further clarify no one said Israelis were racist so let's leave it there.

Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 16:09

Boolabus · 31/03/2026 14:41

It seems to be a simple comprehension issue when people (not just mn) say Israel, Britain, US and so on they are generally understood to be talking about the state. If the poster said Israelis are racist that would obviously suggest the population of Israel.

In your example you said Palestinians are racist which would suggest the population you then went further and said they are racist because they support Hamas so you are once again suggesting the population, while everyone you are responding to are talking about the Israeli state and it's institutions.

But I prefer not to sink that low
But you did because you were clearly referring to the Palestinian population ....

No I didn’t because I’m not saying Palestinians are racist.

FloralDeerPattern · 31/03/2026 15:59

Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 14:33

You know if you guys insist on saying “Israel” is racist that’s your choice.

If I was rude enough I would respond by saying Palestinians are racist and could provide evidence of high levels of support for Hamas.

But I prefer not to sink that low, knowing that the statement lacks nuance & will offend people on MN.

There is a big difference between saying Israel is racist and Israelis are racist. If you disagree that Israel, the state, is racist then you should provide reason why you think that that isn't the case rather than accusing posters here of being racist.

I haven't seen you disrupt threads where people have stated that 'Iran is the biggest threat to the world' or many of the other 'Iran is' or 'the US is' statements people have made to talk about how not all Iranians or Americans and accuse people of being racist so I'm not sure why you feel the need to on this thread? What exactly is it about this thread that has led you here more than once to drag it off topic?

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Ellen2shoes · 31/03/2026 15:38

Ellen2shoes · 31/03/2026 15:36

Israel has plenty of good & moderate people living there too, who didn’t vote for the extremist coalition party currently running Israel & will actively vote against them when they get the opportunity.

While this is of course true, the fact remains that Netanyahu is extremely popular. Increasing popularity means likely to stay in power - so nothing changes.

This is why sanctions are the only option.

Do you believe this is a reason to sanction?

www.thejournal.ie/israeli-mps-debate-death-penalty-for-palestinians-convicted-of-deadly-attacks-6998883-Mar2026/

As a response to you and meant to quote your post @Twiglets1

Ellen2shoes · 31/03/2026 15:36

Israel has plenty of good & moderate people living there too, who didn’t vote for the extremist coalition party currently running Israel & will actively vote against them when they get the opportunity.

While this is of course true, the fact remains that Netanyahu is extremely popular. Increasing popularity means likely to stay in power - so nothing changes.

This is why sanctions are the only option.

Do you believe this is a reason to sanction?

www.thejournal.ie/israeli-mps-debate-death-penalty-for-palestinians-convicted-of-deadly-attacks-6998883-Mar2026/

Boolabus · 31/03/2026 14:41

Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 14:33

You know if you guys insist on saying “Israel” is racist that’s your choice.

If I was rude enough I would respond by saying Palestinians are racist and could provide evidence of high levels of support for Hamas.

But I prefer not to sink that low, knowing that the statement lacks nuance & will offend people on MN.

It seems to be a simple comprehension issue when people (not just mn) say Israel, Britain, US and so on they are generally understood to be talking about the state. If the poster said Israelis are racist that would obviously suggest the population of Israel.

In your example you said Palestinians are racist which would suggest the population you then went further and said they are racist because they support Hamas so you are once again suggesting the population, while everyone you are responding to are talking about the Israeli state and it's institutions.

But I prefer not to sink that low
But you did because you were clearly referring to the Palestinian population ....

Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 14:33

You know if you guys insist on saying “Israel” is racist that’s your choice.

If I was rude enough I would respond by saying Palestinians are racist and could provide evidence of high levels of support for Hamas.

But I prefer not to sink that low, knowing that the statement lacks nuance & will offend people on MN.

Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 14:28

Ellen2shoes · 31/03/2026 14:24

The vote to execute Palestinians was 61/48

Netanyahu voted for it.

Israel passes law to give death penalty to Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks | Israel | The Guardian

@Twiglets1 The war on Iran has done wonders for his popularity.

https://thejewishindependent.com.au/netanyahu-war-election-victory

What’s your point?

FloralDeerPattern · 31/03/2026 14:25

Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 14:16

No it was to remind people that if you blame all Israelis for what their leaders do, it would equally be logical to blame all Palestinians for Hamas.

Better in both examples to restrict who you blame to the actual leadership and their supporters but I don’t see that distinction when people make comments about “Israel”.

I was responding to a comment along the lines of, ”this case shows really clearly how racist Israel really is” but Israel is a whole country so collective blame is not fair.

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Israel, the state, is a racist state. Sorry but it just is. That doesn't mean that every person in it is racist but a state that has racist policies is a racist state. A state that commits racial segregation is a racist state. Again not everyone who lives there will be racist but Israels government, the states policies, the states actions are racist.

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FloralDeerPattern · 31/03/2026 14:21

Boolabus · 31/03/2026 13:58

The poster clarified who they were talking about
it shows how racist the democratically elected Israeli government and their institutions are.

No one is defending or suggesting Hamas haven't done horrific things so not sure why you needed to bring that up unless it is to demonstrate how both Hamas and the Israeli battalion are similar in their actions and tactics in which case I would agree.

To be fair I thought my first post was pretty clear too. There must be a lot of yelling at the news in their households everytime they talk about Israel bombing this or Israel implementing the death penalty or Israel taking a slice of Lebanon etc.

That people compare a terrorist organisation that nobody under the age of 40 in Gaza voted for vs the big old racist Netanyahu who has been elected umpteen times the last being 2022 is ridiculous.

At the end of the day Israel is led by an extremely racist government and there is a huge problem with violent, extreme racism that just hasn't been tackled. This racism where ever it is coming from is killing people, it's leading to widespread terror, it's leading to ethnic cleansing and nothing is being done to stop it either from within Israel or outside of Israel. It's growing, it's flourishing and Palestinians are paying the price.

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Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 14:16

Boolabus · 31/03/2026 13:58

The poster clarified who they were talking about
it shows how racist the democratically elected Israeli government and their institutions are.

No one is defending or suggesting Hamas haven't done horrific things so not sure why you needed to bring that up unless it is to demonstrate how both Hamas and the Israeli battalion are similar in their actions and tactics in which case I would agree.

No it was to remind people that if you blame all Israelis for what their leaders do, it would equally be logical to blame all Palestinians for Hamas.

Better in both examples to restrict who you blame to the actual leadership and their supporters but I don’t see that distinction when people make comments about “Israel”.

I was responding to a comment along the lines of, ”this case shows really clearly how racist Israel really is” but Israel is a whole country so collective blame is not fair.

Boolabus · 31/03/2026 13:58

Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 13:53

The outrageous things Hamas do has equally been allowed to continue for too many years.

It’s racist to blame a whole country full of people for extreme behaviour from their leaders or some of their military. For the same reason I wouldn’t blame ordinary Russian civilians for the actions of Putin.

Israel has plenty of good & moderate people living there too, who didn’t vote for the extremist coalition party currently running Israel & will actively vote against them when they get the opportunity.

The poster clarified who they were talking about
it shows how racist the democratically elected Israeli government and their institutions are.

No one is defending or suggesting Hamas haven't done horrific things so not sure why you needed to bring that up unless it is to demonstrate how both Hamas and the Israeli battalion are similar in their actions and tactics in which case I would agree.

Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 13:53

FloralDeerPattern · 31/03/2026 11:16

OK cool, it shows how racist the democratically elected Israeli government and their institutions are. For years and years they have allowed this battalion to torture, sexually assault and shoot and kill people without consequences. Threatening those who propose consequences for their racist, violent actions like Biden did.

This issue has been ongoing for a very long time yet Netanyahu, who has allowed this racism to flourish and grow has been elected again and again and again enabling this terrorist behaviour against innocent civilians because they were born Palestinian. That it took this battalion being filmed by a US news agency explicitly telling us and showing the world what they do everyday for any action to be taken speaks volumes.

The outrageous things Hamas do has equally been allowed to continue for too many years.

It’s racist to blame a whole country full of people for extreme behaviour from their leaders or some of their military. For the same reason I wouldn’t blame ordinary Russian civilians for the actions of Putin.

Israel has plenty of good & moderate people living there too, who didn’t vote for the extremist coalition party currently running Israel & will actively vote against them when they get the opportunity.

FloralDeerPattern · 31/03/2026 11:16

Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 10:41

No it shows racism amongst certain parts of Israel not the whole country.

In the same way that the extreme violence & racism of Hamas & their supporters doesn’t define the whole Palestinian population and it would be wrong to suggest it does.

OK cool, it shows how racist the democratically elected Israeli government and their institutions are. For years and years they have allowed this battalion to torture, sexually assault and shoot and kill people without consequences. Threatening those who propose consequences for their racist, violent actions like Biden did.

This issue has been ongoing for a very long time yet Netanyahu, who has allowed this racism to flourish and grow has been elected again and again and again enabling this terrorist behaviour against innocent civilians because they were born Palestinian. That it took this battalion being filmed by a US news agency explicitly telling us and showing the world what they do everyday for any action to be taken speaks volumes.

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Twiglets1 · 31/03/2026 10:41

FloralDeerPattern · 31/03/2026 09:21

This battalion shouldn't have been still operating in the first place. It's a really poor reflection on Israel that they let these violent extremists run around with impunity terrorising people for so long. Beatings, sexual assault, electrocution, shooting and killing unarmed civillians and it isn't until US journalists are harmed that they take action. They were fully aware of how disgustingly violent this battalion was and threatened Biden if he dared sanction them. A disgrace of a government and a disgrace of an army.

Palestinians are fair game for sexual assault, torture and killings to Israel. This case shows really clearly how racist Israel really is.

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No it shows racism amongst certain parts of Israel not the whole country.

In the same way that the extreme violence & racism of Hamas & their supporters doesn’t define the whole Palestinian population and it would be wrong to suggest it does.

FloralDeerPattern · 31/03/2026 09:21

dairydebris · 30/03/2026 19:28

From the NYT.

Israel Pulls Battalion From West Bank After Soldier Talks of ‘Revenge’

While detaining a CNN crew, a soldier said that Israeli troops were motivated by “revenge” against Palestinians and that all of the West Bank was “for the Jews.”

Qawasma/Reuters
David M. Halbfinger
By David M. Halbfinger
Reporting from Jerusalem

The Israeli military has suspended a battalion of reservists from active duty in the occupied West Bank after soldiers there detained a team of CNN journalists and one of the soldiers said on camera that the troops were carrying out “revenge” against Palestinians.

A CNN cameraman was put in a chokehold and he and several colleagues were detained for about two hours, the network reported last week, as they documented the establishment of an illegal outpost of Israeli settlers in Tayasir, a Palestinian village northeast of Nablus.

During the journalists’ detention on Thursday, one of the soldiers was recorded on video saying that the entire West Bank was “for the Jews.” He said that the soldiers’ motivation was “revenge” for the killing of an Israeli teenager in a collision with a car driven by a Palestinian on March 21.

In a statement on Monday, the Israeli military said that the soldier’s entire reserve battalion was being pulled from the field for additional training.

Soldiers were required to “maintain composure, statesmanship and respect for the uniform they wear and the military they represent,” it said.

Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir, the army’s chief of staff, called the episode a “grave ethical incident.”

“We all swore the soldier’s oath upon enlistment,” he said in the statement. “Weapons are to be used solely for the purpose of carrying out the mission, and never for revenge.”

The military also said that it had apologized to the CNN journalists.

The suspended battalion is composed largely of veterans of the Netzah Yehuda Battalion, a unit established for ultra-Orthodox Jewish men whose strict religious observance demands that men and women be separated.

Netzah Yehuda’s soldiers have been accused of abusing Palestinians. It was singled out for possible sanctions in 2024 by the United States under the so-called Leahy Law, which bans foreign military units accused of human rights violations from receiving U.S. aid or training. The Biden administration, in the end, declined to suspend aid to the battalion.

One of the most egregious episodes attributed to the battalion involved the death of a 78-year-old Palestinian American who was detained, gagged and handcuffed by members of the unit in a raid on his village in 2022.

An autopsy showed that the man had died from a stress-induced heart attack brought on by injuries he sustained while he was detained. An investigation by the Israeli military’s justice system found fault with the conduct of the soldiers involved. The Israeli military disciplined three commanders, but no criminal charges were brought.

In the statement on Monday, General Zamir said that the Netzah Yehuda Battalion, including the battalion of reservists, “is dear and important to us, and we have invested significantly in strengthening it.” But he added that there was no place in the military for “unethical norms,” adding that “we will not compromise on this.”

This battalion shouldn't have been still operating in the first place. It's a really poor reflection on Israel that they let these violent extremists run around with impunity terrorising people for so long. Beatings, sexual assault, electrocution, shooting and killing unarmed civillians and it isn't until US journalists are harmed that they take action. They were fully aware of how disgustingly violent this battalion was and threatened Biden if he dared sanction them. A disgrace of a government and a disgrace of an army.

Palestinians are fair game for sexual assault, torture and killings to Israel. This case shows really clearly how racist Israel really is.

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Islandsofsand · 31/03/2026 04:05

dairydebris · 30/03/2026 19:28

From the NYT.

Israel Pulls Battalion From West Bank After Soldier Talks of ‘Revenge’

While detaining a CNN crew, a soldier said that Israeli troops were motivated by “revenge” against Palestinians and that all of the West Bank was “for the Jews.”

Qawasma/Reuters
David M. Halbfinger
By David M. Halbfinger
Reporting from Jerusalem

The Israeli military has suspended a battalion of reservists from active duty in the occupied West Bank after soldiers there detained a team of CNN journalists and one of the soldiers said on camera that the troops were carrying out “revenge” against Palestinians.

A CNN cameraman was put in a chokehold and he and several colleagues were detained for about two hours, the network reported last week, as they documented the establishment of an illegal outpost of Israeli settlers in Tayasir, a Palestinian village northeast of Nablus.

During the journalists’ detention on Thursday, one of the soldiers was recorded on video saying that the entire West Bank was “for the Jews.” He said that the soldiers’ motivation was “revenge” for the killing of an Israeli teenager in a collision with a car driven by a Palestinian on March 21.

In a statement on Monday, the Israeli military said that the soldier’s entire reserve battalion was being pulled from the field for additional training.

Soldiers were required to “maintain composure, statesmanship and respect for the uniform they wear and the military they represent,” it said.

Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir, the army’s chief of staff, called the episode a “grave ethical incident.”

“We all swore the soldier’s oath upon enlistment,” he said in the statement. “Weapons are to be used solely for the purpose of carrying out the mission, and never for revenge.”

The military also said that it had apologized to the CNN journalists.

The suspended battalion is composed largely of veterans of the Netzah Yehuda Battalion, a unit established for ultra-Orthodox Jewish men whose strict religious observance demands that men and women be separated.

Netzah Yehuda’s soldiers have been accused of abusing Palestinians. It was singled out for possible sanctions in 2024 by the United States under the so-called Leahy Law, which bans foreign military units accused of human rights violations from receiving U.S. aid or training. The Biden administration, in the end, declined to suspend aid to the battalion.

One of the most egregious episodes attributed to the battalion involved the death of a 78-year-old Palestinian American who was detained, gagged and handcuffed by members of the unit in a raid on his village in 2022.

An autopsy showed that the man had died from a stress-induced heart attack brought on by injuries he sustained while he was detained. An investigation by the Israeli military’s justice system found fault with the conduct of the soldiers involved. The Israeli military disciplined three commanders, but no criminal charges were brought.

In the statement on Monday, General Zamir said that the Netzah Yehuda Battalion, including the battalion of reservists, “is dear and important to us, and we have invested significantly in strengthening it.” But he added that there was no place in the military for “unethical norms,” adding that “we will not compromise on this.”

Accounts of soldiers standing by as settlers attack Palestinians are not new, and I have not previously read of any withdrawal of these soldiers.

Are soldiers only withdrawn if they allow themselves to be videoed assaulting American journalists?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/22/israeli-settlers-carry-out-series-of-west-bank-attacks-as-security-forces-stand-by

Israeli settlers carry out series of West Bank attacks as security forces stand by

Witnesses describe coordinated raids in which homes and vehicles were set on fire and several Palestinians injured

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/22/israeli-settlers-carry-out-series-of-west-bank-attacks-as-security-forces-stand-by

Ellen2shoes · 30/03/2026 23:33

It is a rare thing to agree. Now the Israeli government has finally passed a law by which Palestinians can be executed.

Is this a reason to sanction?

www.thejournal.ie/israeli-mps-debate-death-penalty-for-palestinians-convicted-of-deadly-attacks-6998883-Mar2026/