Should the international community sanction Israel over settler violence in West Bank?

It is Israeli government policy. It would be very easy for the IDF to remove the settlers causing the siege.

We see more top down strategy here
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/14/israeli-military-plans-transfer-law-enforcement-in-occupied-west-bank-to-police

You may find it odious but it does not mean that it has not been mentioned repeatedly by various sources, nor does it mean that it is certainly untrue. The truth is that none of us know for sure.

The fact that 7/10 was an appalling, vicious attack is a separate point which I'm sure everyone agrees with.

There are, of course, Americans who believe that the CIA/powers that be in the US knew about 9/11 in advance too. They say so publicly. I don't find it offensive to consider either of these theories. There are most certainly lots of things going on behind the surface that the public are not made aware of.

"Legitimate criticism of Israel is fine, of course." I hear that a lot but who decides what is legitimate and what isn't. I absolutely criticise Zionism in its current form and the actions of Israel towards the Palestinians and I absolutely refuse to conflate Judaism and Zionism. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews.

This whole discussion started by people pointing out that Israel had multiple sources of evidence that an attack was imminent and failed to act on that evidence. I don't remember anyone directly accusing Israel of letting it happen although I will concede the implication was there.

If you decide to call other people 'anti semitic', making a personal attack without any basis, and use the term 'anti semitic' without understanding the meaning, you should expect some push back.

It is encouraging to see a lot more mainstream media reports on settler terrorist activities. People are rightly getting more and more angry at their governments complete inaction in this. There is zero excuses for it and if it was any other country complicit and actively facilitating this there would be uproar. Let's remember who the victims are here.

This is a top down occupation strategy and that’s why sanctioning a few individuals is such a feeble response
Completely agree

Also shows how Netanyahu completely ignores the US. His buddy Huckabee is condemning it and he couldn't give a shit.

Yes, this kind of situation is happening daily in WB with the IDF facilitating the actions of the settlers. This is a top down occupation strategy and that’s why sanctioning a few individuals is such a feeble response.

I don't recognise your username but I have been on this board for a long time across many, many threads. I have seen many unfounded accusations against Jewish people on here - those both in Israel and in the UK unfortunately.

If you haven't seen any then either you haven't looked very widely or it's because I report antisemitic posts where I see them and they normally get quickly deleted.

Of course there are many Israelis, not just Jews, who are highly critical of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. That is not in dispute.

Legitimate criticism of Israel is fine, of course. What is not fine is baseless accusations intended to present Israel in the worst possible light. An example of which we saw on this thread - an accusation with no evidence that they knew an attack was imminent before it happened. Evidence is needed for that sort of accusation that Israel wanted the attack to happen "for their own reasons" but is never provided.

Anyway to return to the op
@FloralDeerPattern
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZN88xq7b4/

Good report on Sky News here. Hopeless situation for the residents.

Imagine being a Muslim and reading that.
The fucking irony.

"It's upsetting to post on here even as a non Jewish person with open contempt for one religious/cultural group being displayed day after day." That is not only untrue but totally unfair. I have not seen anyone attacking Jews on here and if I did, I for one would jump to their defense. There are many Israelis, not just Jews, who are highly critical of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. They are heroes in my opinion as they are the ones who are truly attacked being called vile things like self loathing or even traitors.

In the end it will just be an echo chamber, it already practically is one.

I understand your feelings very well.

Yes I take your point that you see it as pure conjecture. I don't but that's a difference of opinion.

I'm pleased that you confirmed that you would never accuse Israel of anything as heinous as that without hard evidence. That's what I said "exactly" to though probably I didn't make myself clear enough.

My post is frank and honest.

The hatred spewed out is not acceptable. I will join others and withdraw my oxygen from these threads. No point responding anymore. It changes nothing. The threads get smaller and smaller with less and less posters.

I think the settlers are awful and shoukd be stopped. Unlike you I don't think the violence on either side or the celebration of it is "understandable".

It is what this section has become but sadly I think your post may well get deleted. It's probably a bit too frank but it's certainly true, and maybe MN should reflect on why, that most Jewish people have left this area of the site.

It's upsetting to post on here even as a non Jewish person with open contempt for one religious/cultural group being displayed day after day.

In the same way that the links I posted prove nothing, this proves nothing either. As I said, at this moment, it is all pure conjecture. Whatever the truth is, someone senior in Israel had to take responsibility for Oct 7th and fall on their sword. In fact I think it is ridiculous that only one person should be held responsible. For an intelligence failure of this level, many heads should be rolling. The Covid Partygate scandal drew more media attention than this.

It's not a "known fact" that Israel allowed the 7/10/23 attack to happen "for their own reasons".

What is true is that Israel acknowledged security failings prior to 7/10/23 and an internal report concluded that the Israel Defense Forces "failed in its mission to protect Israeli civilians".

Lt Gen Herzi Halevi took responsibility and resigned over it and lessons will have been learnt so that Israel will put an even greater emphasis on eliminating any risk than was previously the case.

"The report concludes that the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) "failed in its mission to protect Israeli civilians"."

Failure to protect is completely different from allowing to go ahead.

People failed to protect many in terrorist attacks around the world but allowing to go ahead is completely different.

I will join others and leave this low area of MN its not worth engaging. Engaging keeps it going.

"There are, of course, reports that the Israelis knew about 7th October in advance and chose not to act to prevent it. "

Some stoop so low with unsubstantiated claims. Where does your hatred come from that you believe so easily that lie? That Israel who invest millions in defence would happily allow October 7th go ahead. Making mistakes is one thing and is not evidence of allowing a mass terrorist attack to go ahead. These threads have some very hateful and frankly disgusting unsubstantiated claims. The claim repeated by a poster is why most Jewish people left this area of mn, pure hatred. It's very low.

Or is it to be expected on CITME board 🤔 has this what this section has become.

Fucked up is right.

The IDF won't help the residents in Taybeh, the last Christian village who are living in fear from the constant attacks.

Exactly, it's not the sort of allegation to throw around whatever you think of Israel's actions post 7/10/23. And it is not the first time I have heard it reported on this board as if it was a deliberate choice of Israel to allow the attack to happen.

The source provided by @Newbutoldfather (dated February 25) provides more details on Israel's own report into what went wrong security wise. They acknowledge their failures, but that's very different to allowing it to happen "for their own reasons".

Israel's military has published its first official account of the mistakes that led to its failures during Hamas's 7 October 2023 attack, which triggered the Gaza war.

The report concludes that the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) "failed in its mission to protect Israeli civilians".

After presenting the findings to commanders on Monday, the IDF's outgoing chief of staff, Lt Gen Herzi Halevi, said he took full responsibility for the failures.

"I embrace my responsibility. It is mine. I was the commander of the army on 7 October and I have my responsibility and I have all of your responsibility. I see that as mine too. And I see that in every command of mine that went wrong, there is also a part of me," he said in a video.

Last month, the general announced his resignation over the failures and called for a commission of inquiry to carry out a broader investigation that would help prevent another attack.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvee8vr7l1o

Absolutely clear BG and S are not Israel, when "Israel" is used to mean the land and the people that live in it, and I would also condemn anyone that tried to conflate the two.

But they are part of the Israeli government, and people will use the word "Israel" to also mean the state actor controlling an army, a police force etc. Its the Israeli state who are deliberately creating an environment to encourage and actively support criminal settlers and this makes it a criminal regime.

I do not blame Israeli people in general for this and recognise like in any country in the world that ordinary people are not responsible for the actions of their government.

Unlike many posters on here who feel fine about justifying any level of violence against Palestinians because they have previously voted for/supported Hamas and therefore have collective responsibility for all actions of Hamas. Which is actually also exactly the reasoning Osama Bin Laden used for justifying attacks on American citizens - you voted for George Bush so you are collectively guilty for any crimes commited by the US government or army.

The citme is sadly like that. Few posters bother to visit this section of MN, lots of hate filled rants, claims without supporting evidence. It's not really worth engaging. It will change nothing here.