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Ellen2shoes · 18/03/2026 21:35

It’s horrific. Have friends paralysed with fear with no word from families now for weeks. The brutality of the regime and the bombs all around. What hell has been wrought.

EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 21:26

Just reading what they did, it’s unconscionable. Where is everyone? Looking away.

mids2019 · 18/03/2026 20:38

The horror of the regime is simply not brought up by left wing right on journalists.....looking at you Owen Jones. There is narrative being pushed in the media that the regime is somehow a victim and people are quick to bring up international law when a terror regime has no respect at all of human rights.

EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 18:38

inamarina · 18/03/2026 13:00

Was it Seyed Mohammad Marandi by any chance?
I’ve seen Piers Morgan interviewing him once, he seemed like a thoroughly unpleasant character, smirking and grinning all the way.

I didn’t catch the man’s name. He was a professor in Iran I think. Even the interviewer was a bit taken a back with his reign of fire rhetoric, on us too in the U.K.

inamarina · 18/03/2026 13:00

EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 09:06

It actually freaked me out and I rarely react to news these days post covid.

Fark is my reaction.

Was it Seyed Mohammad Marandi by any chance?
I’ve seen Piers Morgan interviewing him once, he seemed like a thoroughly unpleasant character, smirking and grinning all the way.

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 11:39

inamarina · 18/03/2026 11:15

Lots of people prefer to focus on attacking Trump and Netanyahu rather than actually thinking about what Iranian people have to endure living under a regime like that.

I think it’s because people are used to attacking Trump (and also Netanyahu), it’s a safe, approved way to show that you care.
I listened to a recent interview with Melanie Phillips where she described how anti-Trump sentiment can become a form of "performative social conformity" and a "badge of identity".
Something that’s designed to signal moral standing and that allows to avoid critical engagement with individual policies and situations.
I think she has a point.

Makes sense.

EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 11:22

inamarina · 18/03/2026 11:15

Lots of people prefer to focus on attacking Trump and Netanyahu rather than actually thinking about what Iranian people have to endure living under a regime like that.

I think it’s because people are used to attacking Trump (and also Netanyahu), it’s a safe, approved way to show that you care.
I listened to a recent interview with Melanie Phillips where she described how anti-Trump sentiment can become a form of "performative social conformity" and a "badge of identity".
Something that’s designed to signal moral standing and that allows to avoid critical engagement with individual policies and situations.
I think she has a point.

SM is powerful and the women or any of the people against the IRGC just cannot get their stories out.

Look at the team of footballers signalling distress then overturned. That’s it. It’s like a movie, but real.

No one is seeing it so it doesn’t get talked about, not here not in Hollywood, no celeb causes.

The professor guy from Iran this morning, his rhetoric was off the scale. I’m sure it’s how anyone opposing the IRGC is dealt with. Vengeance. Scary stuff. He includes us in that too. It’s concerning.

inamarina · 18/03/2026 11:15

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 08:19

I also had to google it this morning after someone mentioned it on another thread @Ihatetomatoes because the story hasn't been widely reported.

It's hard to understand why there isn't more outrage against the Iran regime. Lots of people prefer to focus on attacking Trump and Netanyahu rather than actually thinking about what Iranian people have to endure living under a regime like that.

War may not be the answer - we don't know the outcome yet. But neither is the answer to look away after the mass protests in Iran have drawn the attention of the world to their plight.

Lots of people prefer to focus on attacking Trump and Netanyahu rather than actually thinking about what Iranian people have to endure living under a regime like that.

I think it’s because people are used to attacking Trump (and also Netanyahu), it’s a safe, approved way to show that you care.
I listened to a recent interview with Melanie Phillips where she described how anti-Trump sentiment can become a form of "performative social conformity" and a "badge of identity".
Something that’s designed to signal moral standing and that allows to avoid critical engagement with individual policies and situations.
I think she has a point.

FloralDeerPattern · 18/03/2026 10:10

It's all just awful. These regimes, these armies are just awful and it's the regular people who suffer while these maniacal regimes rape, kill, bomb and starve people for their own ends.

Iranians ruled by a regime that uses sexual violence as a tool of oppression being attacked by a country who uses sexual violence as a tool of oppression. It's hard to see a good outcome there.

It's just shit and yeah unfortunately there are people who support these regimes and proudly wave their flags in the UK and beyond. They bury their heads in the sand. They pick a 'team' and ignore the wrong doing of their 'side', kid themselves that it's somehow different if it's their 'side' doing it.

The reality is that it's all a mess, there are no good guys out there fighting right now and the people on the streets across the middle east are the ones who will suffer as is always the way in war.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 18/03/2026 09:52

It is undoubtedly one of the most brutal regimes on the planet.
Women have been tortured, raped before being beaten to death for showing their hair.
Rape is power to these sick fucks who take advantage of women in lawless situations.
I feel for the citizens. The support for the regime is stronger than not in this country, cannot see things changing in this lifetime.

Ihatetomatoes · 18/03/2026 09:24

EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 09:06

It actually freaked me out and I rarely react to news these days post covid.

Fark is my reaction.

Agree.

There are people who support that in the UK.

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Ihatetomatoes · 18/03/2026 09:23

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 08:51

Statement on Al Quds march from the Met police:

The Home Secretary has consented to the Metropolitan Police banning Sunday’s Al Quds march and any associated counter-protest marches. This will be in place from 16:00hrs on Wednesday, 11 March and last one month.

The Al Quds march is uniquely contentious having originated in Iran and in London is organised by the Islamic Human Rights Commission, an organisation supportive of the Iranian regime and was due to take place on Sunday, 15 March.

The threshold to ban a protest is high and we do not take this decision lightly; this is the first time we have used this power since 2012.

But in our assessment this march raises unique risks and challenges. We must consider the likely high numbers of protestors and counter protestors coming together and the extreme tensions between different factions. We have taken into consideration the likely impact on protests of the volatile situation in the Middle East, with the Iranian regime attacking British allies and military bases overseas.

We must also consider that the security services have been publicly clear about the threats we are facing on UK soil from the Iranian regime. In the last year MI5 and Counter Terrorism Policing have foiled over 20 Iranian state-backed attacks on the UK. Last week counter-terrorism officers arrested four people under the National Security Act after they allegedly spied on Jewish communities for the Iranian regime and, separately, at the weekend a man was reportedly stabbed by someone who had opposing views on the Iranian regime.

https://news.met.police.uk/news/statement-on-al-quds-march-506983

I think since the threshold is high to ban marches they must have had significant safety concerns. Foiled terrorist attacks here. Sadly, eventually, one individual will be embolded by support from others who seem to support the regime and an attack will happen.

There is a line between supporting the innocents and spilling over into hatred for others leading to (what do they call it) 'resistance' 'action' 🤔

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EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 09:06

ThreeB · 18/03/2026 09:02

That interview was so hard to listen to, absolutely chilling

It actually freaked me out and I rarely react to news these days post covid.

Fark is my reaction.

ThreeB · 18/03/2026 09:02

EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 08:01

Do you listen to Times Radio? I just heard a chilling Iranian interview, someone very much on the side of the IRGC.

No allowance for people who are not for them too. They just don’t feature, they’re gone.

That interview was so hard to listen to, absolutely chilling

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 08:51

Statement on Al Quds march from the Met police:

The Home Secretary has consented to the Metropolitan Police banning Sunday’s Al Quds march and any associated counter-protest marches. This will be in place from 16:00hrs on Wednesday, 11 March and last one month.

The Al Quds march is uniquely contentious having originated in Iran and in London is organised by the Islamic Human Rights Commission, an organisation supportive of the Iranian regime and was due to take place on Sunday, 15 March.

The threshold to ban a protest is high and we do not take this decision lightly; this is the first time we have used this power since 2012.

But in our assessment this march raises unique risks and challenges. We must consider the likely high numbers of protestors and counter protestors coming together and the extreme tensions between different factions. We have taken into consideration the likely impact on protests of the volatile situation in the Middle East, with the Iranian regime attacking British allies and military bases overseas.

We must also consider that the security services have been publicly clear about the threats we are facing on UK soil from the Iranian regime. In the last year MI5 and Counter Terrorism Policing have foiled over 20 Iranian state-backed attacks on the UK. Last week counter-terrorism officers arrested four people under the National Security Act after they allegedly spied on Jewish communities for the Iranian regime and, separately, at the weekend a man was reportedly stabbed by someone who had opposing views on the Iranian regime.

https://news.met.police.uk/news/statement-on-al-quds-march-506983

Statement on Al Quds march

The Home Secretary has consented to the Met banning Sunday’s Al Quds march.

https://news.met.police.uk/news/statement-on-al-quds-march-506983

binnibonnieboo · 18/03/2026 08:50

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 08:46

You know the police had to recently ban a pro-Iranian march recently?

British police have banned a pro-Iranian march that had been due to take place in London on Sunday, citing the possibility of "extreme tensions" with counter-protesters and the risk posed by Tehran during the Iran war.

The annual Al Quds march is organised by the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC), which police said was supportive of Iran's clerical rulers.

The threshold to ban a protest is high in Britain. The police said it was the first time the power had been invoked in 14 years but described the risk of public disorder as "severe".

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-police-ban-pro-iranian-london-march-due-extreme-tensions-2026-03-11/

I think this falls under my regime supporters qualification, I wouldn't call this a significant or substantial minority.

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 08:46

binnibonnieboo · 18/03/2026 08:39

I have never once heard anyone who is not of the regime or a very fundamentalist Muslim supporting the Ayatollahs? Who are you talking about? Can we have some examples of this significant minority?

You know the police had to recently ban a pro-Iranian march recently?

British police have banned a pro-Iranian march that had been due to take place in London on Sunday, citing the possibility of "extreme tensions" with counter-protesters and the risk posed by Tehran during the Iran war.

The annual Al Quds march is organised by the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC), which police said was supportive of Iran's clerical rulers.

The threshold to ban a protest is high in Britain. The police said it was the first time the power had been invoked in 14 years but described the risk of public disorder as "severe".

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-police-ban-pro-iranian-london-march-due-extreme-tensions-2026-03-11/

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 08:42

Ihatetomatoes · 18/03/2026 08:36

I did the same. I was shocked that it hadn't been mentioned before. So started a thread.

I have no idea what the answer is. Iran wouldn't listen to outside pressure. Ignore it? Let them develop nuclear weapons and do something when its too late. Im no Trump fan at all. Did he start to attempt to get rid of future nuclear weapons? I believe so. However, they don't appear to have considered how many drones Iran had already amassed and could fire in all directions causing problems for many surrounding nations and those further afield.

I think we need to be less reliant on oil and gas.

I think we need to be closer to European countries.

Sorry, I have gone all over the place with my response.

No I agree with all you have said.

Ihatetomatoes · 18/03/2026 08:39

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 08:19

I also had to google it this morning after someone mentioned it on another thread @Ihatetomatoes because the story hasn't been widely reported.

It's hard to understand why there isn't more outrage against the Iran regime. Lots of people prefer to focus on attacking Trump and Netanyahu rather than actually thinking about what Iranian people have to endure living under a regime like that.

War may not be the answer - we don't know the outcome yet. But neither is the answer to look away after the mass protests in Iran have drawn the attention of the world to their plight.

Maybe people hate/dislike Trump and Netanyahu more than they dislike the Iranian regime, so choose to attack them.

I don't like Trump or Netanyahu and both need to go, but I do understand the threat the Iranian regime is, to not only its own people, but to the wider world.

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binnibonnieboo · 18/03/2026 08:39

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 18/03/2026 08:03

And yet there is still a significant minority of people in this country who support the regime.

I don't mean who simply oppose the bombing, but who actually support the ayatollahs.

I have never once heard anyone who is not of the regime or a very fundamentalist Muslim supporting the Ayatollahs? Who are you talking about? Can we have some examples of this significant minority?

Ihatetomatoes · 18/03/2026 08:36

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 08:19

I also had to google it this morning after someone mentioned it on another thread @Ihatetomatoes because the story hasn't been widely reported.

It's hard to understand why there isn't more outrage against the Iran regime. Lots of people prefer to focus on attacking Trump and Netanyahu rather than actually thinking about what Iranian people have to endure living under a regime like that.

War may not be the answer - we don't know the outcome yet. But neither is the answer to look away after the mass protests in Iran have drawn the attention of the world to their plight.

I did the same. I was shocked that it hadn't been mentioned before. So started a thread.

I have no idea what the answer is. Iran wouldn't listen to outside pressure. Ignore it? Let them develop nuclear weapons and do something when its too late. Im no Trump fan at all. Did he start to attempt to get rid of future nuclear weapons? I believe so. However, they don't appear to have considered how many drones Iran had already amassed and could fire in all directions causing problems for many surrounding nations and those further afield.

I think we need to be less reliant on oil and gas.

I think we need to be closer to European countries.

Sorry, I have gone all over the place with my response.

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Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 08:19

I also had to google it this morning after someone mentioned it on another thread @Ihatetomatoes because the story hasn't been widely reported.

It's hard to understand why there isn't more outrage against the Iran regime. Lots of people prefer to focus on attacking Trump and Netanyahu rather than actually thinking about what Iranian people have to endure living under a regime like that.

War may not be the answer - we don't know the outcome yet. But neither is the answer to look away after the mass protests in Iran have drawn the attention of the world to their plight.

EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 08:11

Ihatetomatoes · 18/03/2026 08:06

I haven't no.

The poor people of Iran. Its hard to get their voices heard.

They don't seem to generate the same sympathy/support for some reason. Maybe it's because people couldn't see the protesters dying in their thousands on Tic tok or Instagram feeds, the images weren't there so did it really happen. Some stories garner huge spread and others barely make it out.

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Yes we’re a SM society if we can’t see it it doesn’t get sympathy or celebs in Hollywood.

Nothing. Look at the footballers wanting safety then coerced to go back.

Listening to the guy it actually bumped up my stress levels, he was so intensely vengeful.

Ihatetomatoes · 18/03/2026 08:08

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 18/03/2026 08:03

And yet there is still a significant minority of people in this country who support the regime.

I don't mean who simply oppose the bombing, but who actually support the ayatollahs.

I agree.

Do they support the slaughter of thousands of protesters?

Do they support the rapes of nurses who helped the protesters?

Do they even care?

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Ihatetomatoes · 18/03/2026 08:06

EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 08:01

Do you listen to Times Radio? I just heard a chilling Iranian interview, someone very much on the side of the IRGC.

No allowance for people who are not for them too. They just don’t feature, they’re gone.

I haven't no.

The poor people of Iran. Its hard to get their voices heard.

They don't seem to generate the same sympathy/support for some reason. Maybe it's because people couldn't see the protesters dying in their thousands on Tic tok or Instagram feeds, the images weren't there so did it really happen. Some stories garner huge spread and others barely make it out.

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