Page 7 | Trumps senior counter terrorism officer resigns due to the war with Iran and has said they only went to war because of Israeli pressure, not because of any imminent threat from Iran.

BerthaPotts · 2026-03-17T15:49:32+00:00

If that is really the case will this not be very damning for Trump? How will he respond to this?

EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 18:43

dairydebris · 17/03/2026 18:41

My hope is that Trump is able to stop this questionable war because the Iranian regime collapses.
Whether or not you believe it was right to start this war, start it he has, and it would be better now surely if it ends because of regime collapse? Rather than Trump just moves onto the next thing? I think its likely if the war ends without regime change things will get worse for lots of people in Iran- which is absolutely not what we want is it?

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Not only that but the threat of weaponry increases.

Ignoring the threat as many have over time, due to the hold on the Strait I expect, doesn’t make it go away.

dairydebris · 17/03/2026 18:41

BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 18:28

My thread was created to discuss the repercussions of his resignation and the letter he wrote.

My hope is Trump will speed up ending the war if more and more people from within speak out against it.

My hope is that Trump is able to stop this questionable war because the Iranian regime collapses.
Whether or not you believe it was right to start this war, start it he has, and it would be better now surely if it ends because of regime collapse? Rather than Trump just moves onto the next thing? I think its likely if the war ends without regime change things will get worse for lots of people in Iran- which is absolutely not what we want is it?

HundredMilesAnHour · 17/03/2026 18:39

TerracottaPots · 17/03/2026 16:36

This is a consequence of people not being allowed to talk about the influence Israel has on America. Joe Kent is a brave man.

Joe Kent is a solid guy. I remember being very impressed with him when he was interviewed by Shawn Ryan last year.

This is the interview (suspect it will be getting a lot of traffic now!)

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EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 18:37

BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 18:36

Maybe you can start by saying what you want and how you feel it will be realistically achieved?

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I’m happy to answer after you do.

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 18:37

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/03/2026 18:30

He doesn't need to "lay the groundwork" for that at all, because Marco Rubio already inadvertently stated those are the facts.

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I’ll confess I haven’t read anything from Rubio.

Im rather suspicious of anyone suggesting the war is wholly Israel’s fault though. George Soros style conspiracies.

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BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 18:36

EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 18:34

Ok so can you say what outcome you want?

If the IRGC stay in place, build more weaponry what can be done in five to ten years when they are stronger?

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Maybe you can start by saying what you want and how you feel it will be realistically achieved?

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EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 18:34

BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 18:33

Please. You know somebody can be against the havoc wreaked by Trump in the middle east and also against the Iranian regime simultaneously.

Once again, it's not always black and white.

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Ok so can you say what outcome you want?

If the IRGC stay in place, build more weaponry what can be done in five to ten years when they are stronger?

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BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 18:33

EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 18:30

What is your hope regarding the IRGC? That it survives, thrives and continues on its aims?

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Please. You know somebody can be against the havoc wreaked by Trump in the middle east and also against the Iranian regime simultaneously.

Once again, it's not always black and white.

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Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 18:32

Why would you suggest the poster wants the IRGC to thrive? There is no sense that they want a murderous regime to continue.

People are allowed to think the war won’t remove the IRGC without that making them supporters.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/03/2026 18:30

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 18:23

An antisemitic proud boy associate surely not.
He was appointed under Trump. So at some point that was an attractive attribute.

He’s certainly laying the groundwork for the war to be entirely Israel’s fault and simultaneously suggesting Trump’s gullible and easily led.

He doesn't need to "lay the groundwork" for that at all, because Marco Rubio already inadvertently stated those are the facts.

EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 18:30

BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 18:28

My thread was created to discuss the repercussions of his resignation and the letter he wrote.

My hope is Trump will speed up ending the war if more and more people from within speak out against it.

What is your hope regarding the IRGC? That it survives, thrives and continues on its aims?

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BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 18:28

My thread was created to discuss the repercussions of his resignation and the letter he wrote.

My hope is Trump will speed up ending the war if more and more people from within speak out against it.

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BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 18:26

I appreciate those posters who have given more insight into his background. It does bring into question why so many senior figures in the Trump administration come from a white supremacist background.

I don't doubt this his resignation has nothing to do with the welfare of the Iranians, rather his extreme MAGA outlook.

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BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 18:24

Twiglets1 · 17/03/2026 18:14

So embarrassing. He is exactly the sort of man they would have hated before he made this particular statement.

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He is also the sort of person that many would have been proud of if he was endorsing the war with Iran.

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BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 18:23

Twiglets1 · 17/03/2026 18:14

So embarrassing. He is exactly the sort of man they would have hated before he made this particular statement.

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Do you always think in such a black and white way?

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Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 18:23

An antisemitic proud boy associate surely not.
He was appointed under Trump. So at some point that was an attractive attribute.

He’s certainly laying the groundwork for the war to be entirely Israel’s fault and simultaneously suggesting Trump’s gullible and easily led.

Twiglets1 · 17/03/2026 18:14

dairydebris · 17/03/2026 18:13

People on here keen to get in bed with a white supremacist if he wants to engage in a little bit of Israel bashing. Embarrassing.

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So embarrassing. He is exactly the sort of man they would have hated before he made this particular statement.

Twiglets1 · 17/03/2026 18:14

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 18:13

So why would anyone trust him?

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That's up to them, I take what he says with a pinch of salt personally.

dairydebris · 17/03/2026 18:13

Twiglets1 · 17/03/2026 18:07

we all know those impeccable credentials would melt away if he had made a statement pro Trump or supporting the war.

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People on here keen to get in bed with a white supremacist if he wants to engage in a little bit of Israel bashing. Embarrassing.

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 18:13

Twiglets1 · 17/03/2026 17:59

Clearly it was damaged but not obliterated.

People keep going on about this point as if it's a big Gotcha.

I don't really know why - I think we all agree Trump lies and exaggerates?

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So why would anyone trust him?

Twiglets1 · 17/03/2026 18:07

dairydebris · 17/03/2026 18:05

Previous Trump buttlicker.
Links to the Proud Boys.
Refused to admit Trump lost in 2020.

Surprised you think these are impeccable credentials but ok.

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we all know those impeccable credentials would melt away if he had made a statement pro Trump or supporting the war.

dairydebris · 17/03/2026 18:05

HollyBluIvy · 17/03/2026 17:50

This guy has very respectable credentials and surely his words must carry a lot of weight. I hope he is the first of many.

Previous Trump buttlicker.
Links to the Proud Boys.
Refused to admit Trump lost in 2020.

Surprised you think these are impeccable credentials but ok.

Yapper73 · 17/03/2026 18:01

Sorry @Realitycheck1I wasn’t trying to put you on the spot or thought you knew the answer, I was just trying to make sense of it all. And I’m not sure that’s an achievable feat right now.

JaneFondue · 17/03/2026 17:59

WMD 2.1. Or rather, I have lost count of the versions.

Twiglets1 · 17/03/2026 17:59

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 17:58

It was obliterated. You think it was obliterated and rebuilt?

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Clearly it was damaged but not obliterated.

People keep going on about this point as if it's a big Gotcha.

I don't really know why - I think we all agree Trump lies and exaggerates?