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Trumps senior counter terrorism officer resigns due to the war with Iran and has said they only went to war because of Israeli pressure, not because of any imminent threat from Iran.

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BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 15:49

If that is really the case will this not be very damning for Trump? How will he respond to this?

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EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 06:39

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 06:12

Kent has links to white supremists and said Trump won the 2020 election… he wouldn’t normally be considered a credible person by those now rushing to believe his current words because that suits their agenda.

That happens but also on weapons if people are waiting for them to have nuclear ready to use then it’s probably too late to do much about it.

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 06:30

KatiePricesKnickers · 18/03/2026 06:28

@Flomingho ”and are there actually any nukes?”
No, because if they had one, they’d have already fired it at Tel Aviv.

Exactly.

Realitycheck1 · 18/03/2026 06:28

Enriched uranium at different sites

KatiePricesKnickers · 18/03/2026 06:28

@Flomingho ”and are there actually any nukes?”
No, because if they had one, they’d have already fired it at Tel Aviv.

Realitycheck1 · 18/03/2026 06:28

Also as part of their working without a head strategyy they have different areas for all their arsenal.

Twiglets1 · 18/03/2026 06:12

twentyeightfishinthepond · 17/03/2026 22:13

The suspicious thing is that the guy was supported by Carlson Tucker, who is apparently a fan of the extreme far right. That has me wondering what’s going on there.

Kent has links to white supremists and said Trump won the 2020 election… he wouldn’t normally be considered a credible person by those now rushing to believe his current words because that suits their agenda.

Flomingho · 18/03/2026 02:31

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 17:24

How are they going to 'finish off the nuke side'?

And are there actually any nukes? All too similar to the invasion of Iraq, when it transpired that Saddam Hussein didn't have weapons of mass destruction. I have no time for Starmer but at least in this situation he has had the sense not to be a lap dog to the US. Unlike war criminal Blair....

ThreeDeafMice · 18/03/2026 02:21

user112256479 · 17/03/2026 23:34

Yeah, there's nothing honourable going on here. It's a split between the captured by Israel neocons who are still loitering around and the racist, anti-semitic, white nationalist loons as they square up to fight for the hearts and souls of the MAGAs.

Both sides can go fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned.

Does it not disturb anyone that the “captured by Israel” meme is basically the Protocols, rewritten for the 21st century?

I’m curious: what is the difference between that, and that pesky Jewish octopus manipulating the dumb Americans to carry out its dastardly plan to enslave the world (mu ha ha ha)?

ThreeDeafMice · 18/03/2026 02:10

It’s just occurred to me that the uranium is actually highly enriched, to 60% U235. That means it may need storing in a more dispersed form. I’m curious how they manage the radiological risks. Lots of smaller tanks, maybe.

ThreeDeafMice · 18/03/2026 01:58

If the canisters are (slightly) damaged and the UF6 is released, it will react with the moisture in the air to release hydrofluoric acid gas and powdered uranyl fluoride or uranyl trioxide. They will probably coat everything in the same room or area, and make cleanup a really really challenging task.

if the canisters are hit with an explosion then the uranium will probably coat the entire blast area (as a mixture of various oxides).

As far as I can tell UF6 is stable in sealed steel canisters (designed for the task) and will be fine left alone more or less indefinitely at room temperature.

Im not a specialist in uranium chemistry but I understand that the biggest danger is the toxicity to the human body: breathing any amount of any kind of uranium containing dust like you’d get after a slow or catastrophic leak of UF6 would be very dangerous.

I don’t think there’s much danger of a nuclear criticality incident.

it would be more technical staff than scientists who would handle it, but I presume that’s who you mean.

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/03/2026 01:41

ThreeDeafMice · 18/03/2026 01:29

If anyone cares, the Iranian uranium is used in the form of a viciously toxic and reactive gas, uranium hexafluoride, and will be stored in maybe 30-50 six feet tall cylinders. It must never come into contact with air.

If anyone was imagining metal bars on a shelf, like gold at the Bank of England, it’s not that.

What happens if the facility where its held is bombed? Or all the scientists who deal with it are killed?

ThreeDeafMice · 18/03/2026 01:29

If anyone cares, the Iranian uranium is used in the form of a viciously toxic and reactive gas, uranium hexafluoride, and will be stored in maybe 30-50 six feet tall cylinders. It must never come into contact with air.

If anyone was imagining metal bars on a shelf, like gold at the Bank of England, it’s not that.

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/03/2026 00:15

Ihatetomatoes · 17/03/2026 23:39

They are checking out the sites.

Who are checking what sites?

Ihatetomatoes · 17/03/2026 23:39

Realitycheck1 · 17/03/2026 17:33

@Notonthestairs I'm not a military strategist I'm an arm chair commentator so feel free to cast aside my comments
What I'm reading is that joint spy teams are in Iran now looking for uranium sites .
One site at least Israel would need several hours to blow up one site.

Bombing any infrastructure around nuke building would be the obvious ones but hard to achieve if buried in mountains

They are checking out the sites.

user112256479 · 17/03/2026 23:34

Yeah, there's nothing honourable going on here. It's a split between the captured by Israel neocons who are still loitering around and the racist, anti-semitic, white nationalist loons as they square up to fight for the hearts and souls of the MAGAs.

Both sides can go fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned.

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/03/2026 23:18

dairydebris · 17/03/2026 19:23

Well I suggest we 'discuss truth' by avoiding quoting a liar extraordinaire who has sold his principles if he ever had any in supporting Trump and his many, many untruths.

I don't disagree that Trump has fucked many things but the regime in Iran can take as much credit as Trump for fucking the ME.

a liar extrordinaire?

AFAIK, Joe Kent hasnt made any secret about his far right, racist, antisemitic, Proud Boy, Trump beliefs. It was those very "attributes"🙄 got him the job that Donald Trump gave him, that he just resigned from, in the first place.🤷‍♀️

The liar extrordinaire here is Trump himself. He hasn't just fucked the Middle East, he's fucked the USA and the whole world.

Russia and North Korea are experiencing benefits though. So that's something I suppose.🙄

Silence1 · 17/03/2026 22:24

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 18:37

I’ll confess I haven’t read anything from Rubio.

Im rather suspicious of anyone suggesting the war is wholly Israel’s fault though. George Soros style conspiracies.

Would you be? Israel's flawed intelligence on WMD in Iraq? Is that a wild conspiracy theory? Did Israel not want the US to go into Iraq?
Deliberate or accident?

twentyeightfishinthepond · 17/03/2026 22:13

The suspicious thing is that the guy was supported by Carlson Tucker, who is apparently a fan of the extreme far right. That has me wondering what’s going on there.

Silence1 · 17/03/2026 21:49

Joe Kent is spelling out what many already know I said on here, maybe 18 mths ago, that this is what the Israel Govt wanted and here we are. I said the Israel Govt was a threat to world peace and stability and also here we are - interest rates going up, heating oil doubling and diesel prices rising. Stock markets shaky and missiles ahoy.
They and now Trump painting it as saving the world. I thought they did it months ago when they supposedly destroyed Iran's nuclear capability.
Beautiful Lebanon being bombed with threats to level it like Gaza, Turkey being threatened, West Bank annexed and Gaza....
To the poster who said Syria was nothing to do with Israel , don't be ridiculous. Israel wants no stability there either.
What a fuck up. Let's hope Starmer sticks to his guns.

PixelDrift · 17/03/2026 21:07

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EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 21:04

BelleHathor · 17/03/2026 20:55

Like I said before, the old tropes and accusations no longer work. It's boring. Take your issue's up with Candace's so called "antisemitism" with her.

Enrico Tarrio of the Proud boys is Afro Cuban aka Black, he is also a former FBI informant, who was suspected by MAGA of setting up the J6ers.

Of course "New MAGA" wouldn't know that as they've only just jumped on the bandwagon and are trying to take it over (pathetically), though I am loving watching the mental gymnastics calling out a "white supremacist" in support of President Trump who 2 days ago said disparaging remarks about Iranian DNA.

You do sound like you’re enjoying it with the loving it stuff. What do you hope the outcome is?

BelleHathor · 17/03/2026 20:55

Like I said before, the old tropes and accusations no longer work. It's boring. Take your issue's up with Candace's so called "antisemitism" with her.

Enrico Tarrio of the Proud boys is Afro Cuban aka Black, he is also a former FBI informant, who was suspected by MAGA of setting up the J6ers.

Of course "New MAGA" wouldn't know that as they've only just jumped on the bandwagon and are trying to take it over (pathetically), though I am loving watching the mental gymnastics calling out a "white supremacist" in support of President Trump who 2 days ago said disparaging remarks about Iranian DNA.

Trumps senior counter terrorism officer resigns due to the war with Iran and has said they only went to war because of Israeli pressure, not because of any imminent threat from Iran.
PixelDrift · 17/03/2026 20:36

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Realitycheck1 · 17/03/2026 20:27

@Twiglets1 interesting ,the last I read was that spy teams were trying to find it.
I don't envy those two options taking it out or having scientist get to it..

I was reading earlier how the regime keeps fighting back without the head.
It was trained to and It was trained to do exaclty this having looked at weakness in the west before.

BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 20:19

If it's under the rubble might be too late for that.

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