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Are people still rejoicing about Iran?

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binnibonnieboo · 09/03/2026 10:41

When Israel and the US took out Khamenei there was a thread on how great it was. Some of us expressed that it may not end well, given how forced regime change went previously in many countries. We were told to stop "leftsplaining" to Iranians. How do those people think it's going so far?

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Nyungnyung · 10/03/2026 13:13

binnibonnieboo · 10/03/2026 12:47

I have huge sympathy for them, but wanting to discuss an important but contested issue is not scoring points.

I wasn’t referring to any individual here - but this does feel like what the wider discussion has become, particularly online and with many of our politicians. We seem to be living in a nuance vacuum

binnibonnieboo · 10/03/2026 12:47

Nyungnyung · 10/03/2026 07:36

My lovely Iranian friend has told me that it is is the first time many of her friends and family have felt hopeful - but they are also terrified. Two things can be true at the same time and anyone trying to score political points out of suffering, is just making things worse 😭

I have huge sympathy for them, but wanting to discuss an important but contested issue is not scoring points.

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Nyungnyung · 10/03/2026 07:36

My lovely Iranian friend has told me that it is is the first time many of her friends and family have felt hopeful - but they are also terrified. Two things can be true at the same time and anyone trying to score political points out of suffering, is just making things worse 😭

Angelyoga · 09/03/2026 16:26

I think only a lunatic would rejoice the current situation in Iran: environmental catastrophe, chemical warfare against civilians through the burning of refineries, economic strangulation of the poor, sanitary crisis and water pollution, lower expected health outcomes via less medicines/personnel/infrastructure available, and the risk of targeting the nuclear reactors eg in busher which would cause an astonishing wave of radioactive molecules across the region.

That said, the misanthropic goals of the agenda 2030 are absolutely in line with the economic gains at hand: public-private partnerships for the privatization of profit, war industrial complex and war industrialization on the rise, politicians lining their pockets via briberies.

The stakeholders of this war only sees us, people, as biomass to be exploited at best, or collateral at worse.
It is only a matter of time until we are called to face the same situation here in the west.

dairydebris · 09/03/2026 13:45

binnibonnieboo · 09/03/2026 13:41

I disagree that either Trump or Netanyahu has the best interests of their nations at heart. They are totally self serving. My view is bleak, yes, but I have not felt this concerned about the world in my life to date. I'm in my 60s so have seen a good bit. I think we are living through the 1930s again unfortunately.

I haven't felt as concerned about the world before either. But I think / hope this is as much a factor of the media saturated world we live in. I don't think our brains can cope with problems completely outside of our control happening 1000's of miles away. I agree with you about the 1930's although I suspect for different reasons. Sometimes I feel like choosing hope is a forced position. But thats the position I take.

binnibonnieboo · 09/03/2026 13:41

dairydebris · 09/03/2026 13:37

This is a very bleak outlook?

Yes, BN and DT have the best interests of their nation's at heart, but so does every world leader ever in the history of humankind. Sometimes the best interests of 2 nations can run in tandem, I hope that is what we see happening here.

We dont know yet if the Iranian people have been poorly served or not. Yes of course currently destabilized, but it may still turn out to have been for the best. The ME wasn't exactly stable two weeks ago either. Iran via its proxies has been calculatedly destabilizing the whole region since 1979 all in the name of religious sectarianism, and hatred for Israel and the West.

I know nothing any of us say on here matters in the wider scheme of things but I swear it often feels like some people want the US and Israel to fail so that they can be proved right about how absolutely abhorrent DT and BN are.

I'm chosing hope myself 🙏🙏🙏

I disagree that either Trump or Netanyahu has the best interests of their nations at heart. They are totally self serving. My view is bleak, yes, but I have not felt this concerned about the world in my life to date. I'm in my 60s so have seen a good bit. I think we are living through the 1930s again unfortunately.

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dairydebris · 09/03/2026 13:37

binnibonnieboo · 09/03/2026 13:16

I wish the Iranian people all the best, they have an amazing culture, and are so resilient. I'll shed no tears for Khamenei, a brutal dictator. But I think they have been very poorly served by this decision to assisinate him. I can't see how anyone can think that Trump and Netanyahu had anything but their own interests at heart. Neither cares a jot for human lives or human rights. They've destabilised the region. Caused many civilian deaths. Are damaging the world economy. And no-one knows what will come of it, good or ill. But history suggests probably nothing good but more conflict and death of many more innocents.

This is a very bleak outlook?

Yes, BN and DT have the best interests of their nation's at heart, but so does every world leader ever in the history of humankind. Sometimes the best interests of 2 nations can run in tandem, I hope that is what we see happening here.

We dont know yet if the Iranian people have been poorly served or not. Yes of course currently destabilized, but it may still turn out to have been for the best. The ME wasn't exactly stable two weeks ago either. Iran via its proxies has been calculatedly destabilizing the whole region since 1979 all in the name of religious sectarianism, and hatred for Israel and the West.

I know nothing any of us say on here matters in the wider scheme of things but I swear it often feels like some people want the US and Israel to fail so that they can be proved right about how absolutely abhorrent DT and BN are.

I'm chosing hope myself 🙏🙏🙏

binnibonnieboo · 09/03/2026 13:16

dairydebris · 09/03/2026 12:55

I'm not sad about the end of Khamenei, but there's nothing to rejoice about yet is there? No new less extreme regime, no visible from here moderate opposition, bombs and drones falling all over the ME...
I think the jury is still out on whether or not this'll turn out to have been a good idea... and I don't believe the vast majority of posters know exactly whats going on in Iran or what will happen in the future.
So. Happy Khamenei is dead yes. Rejoicing that theres a war on, no. Sure that it isnt going well for the US? Also no.

Still hopeful but no sure something good will come of this? Yes, of course, why not? The regime was hugely destabilizing to the whole region and supported and funded terrorism in many places.

What do you think OP?

I wish the Iranian people all the best, they have an amazing culture, and are so resilient. I'll shed no tears for Khamenei, a brutal dictator. But I think they have been very poorly served by this decision to assisinate him. I can't see how anyone can think that Trump and Netanyahu had anything but their own interests at heart. Neither cares a jot for human lives or human rights. They've destabilised the region. Caused many civilian deaths. Are damaging the world economy. And no-one knows what will come of it, good or ill. But history suggests probably nothing good but more conflict and death of many more innocents.

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dairydebris · 09/03/2026 12:55

I'm not sad about the end of Khamenei, but there's nothing to rejoice about yet is there? No new less extreme regime, no visible from here moderate opposition, bombs and drones falling all over the ME...
I think the jury is still out on whether or not this'll turn out to have been a good idea... and I don't believe the vast majority of posters know exactly whats going on in Iran or what will happen in the future.
So. Happy Khamenei is dead yes. Rejoicing that theres a war on, no. Sure that it isnt going well for the US? Also no.

Still hopeful but no sure something good will come of this? Yes, of course, why not? The regime was hugely destabilizing to the whole region and supported and funded terrorism in many places.

What do you think OP?

binnibonnieboo · 09/03/2026 11:24

I have reported and hopefully they will change the title. I don't think it's going well at all for the US. The wider ramifications in the middle east are very unclear. I think we can say that it has not advanced stability in the region at all so far. It has made the world more unstable, and may well further undermine the world economy. Hopefully it will not precipitate a recession. The key thing is that it is impissible to predict the outcome of actions like this.

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Twiglets1 · 09/03/2026 10:48

I was never "rejoicing" over the war in Iran and I've not heard of "leftsplaining" until you just used the term.

How do I think it's going so far ... worse for the Iranians than for the US or Israel who have partially achieved some of their goals already.

But it's not over yet so I guess we will see when it ends what each country has won/lost from the war.

If you want to edit the title you can report your own post and ask MN to edit it, they will.

binnibonnieboo · 09/03/2026 10:42

Sorry about the typo in the title!

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