Are people still rejoicing about Iran?

I feel the same way

listening to a podcast earlier with interesting thoughts. Trump naively thought the regime would topple within a few days. Clearly that has not happened and shows no signs of happening. No way will trump want to stop without a clear “win” so now he has no choice other than to carry on and finish what he’s started

I have huge sympathy for Iranians but it’s not our problem to fix.

the economic bomb and political fallout from this is going to be historic

Indeed. And I suspect in years to come schools kids will be encouraged to debate if the slaughter carried out by Israel in Gaza gave the green light for this war. The world sat and watched what Israel did to the Palestinians (which was unforgivable), because they felt it wouldn’t really affect anyone else. But did it embolden Netanyahu to think he could literally do anything he liked? Now of course there are consequences for us all. I would say it was entirely predictable.

Yup, they really did think it was some sort of Call of Duty, Battlefield video game, except for there's no "retry" when you fail in real life.

Egocentric Trump is facing the consequences of allowing his ego to be stroked by Bibi Netanyahu (who the Wall Street Journal reported was advised by Lindsay Graham on how to flatter/lobby Trump).

Graham apparently played word games with Trump where:
"I say Franklin Roosevelt, what do you say?" the Republican Senator from South Carolina asked. The Correct answer: "You have nothing to fear but fear itself"

China won't help, this is to their benefit, America is depleting it's military resources so it will not be able to confront China for a longer time now. Chinese ships (denominated in Yuan) are freely passing through the Strait. The economic bomb and political fallout from this is going to be historic.

Trump's begging China to defend the Strait now. They won't play ball.
He was warned about the significance of the Strait, but.decided not to listen because he wanted to play video games.

I worry about people talking about how they’re happy that Khamenei is dead and that the regime was bad ——- do they not know that the regime is still in place and that a new Khamenei is in charge? Nothing has effectively changed. The old Khamenei was 86 so they’ve sped up the process by a couple of years!

I perhaps get irrationally irritated at hopeful people telling me off for not being as optimistic as them. Some people are young and didn’t live through the Iraq war but older people have no excuse not to see this idiocy for what it clearly is.

The US were surprised the Iranians didn’t just cave into their demands like in Venezuela and also that they would cause havoc with the strait of Hormuz???!!! This is even worse planning than Iraq with even more incompetent leaders.

Not to mention Trump just recently insulted Starmer and said he wasn’t welcome to join a war already won. Previously he’d been threatening to take Greenland. Now he wants NATO to help sort out his mess?

I don’t really understand the “privacy” argument as don’t see how our real identities can be revealed from our opinions as expressed on MN re conflict in the ME.

On other threads maybe if we are talking about our children’s schools or our houses for sale or other personal stuff.

Where people divulge personal stuff on these threads it’s understandable. But where they are just engaging in debates I suspect the motives are different.

If you have reservations about this stupid, world destroying war you must be:
An evil supporter of the regime. Don't you care about women? I do.
Did you speak out in January? I will go through your previous posts to check. What, you changed your username? How devious.
The attack on the school was carrried out by Iran
Ok, it was an accident
Ok, it was carried out by the US.
Ok, but it was Iran's fault really
Ok, but these things happen in war. Can't be helped. War is hard.

Strawmen over and over. Most posters can see past these.

But can you see that when you keep changing your username especially for posts on contentious topics such as "Conflict in the Middle East" that other regular posters from both sides of the debate will question what your motives truly are and whether you are posting in good faith.

Your claim that this is for "privacy" reasons appears to be weak when the vast vast majority of posters never change their username and to be honest it reminds me of masked protesters claiming it's to prevent them getting COVID!

Iranians have a wide range of views as they are a country of 90M people.

Some support the war, some don’t. I’m sure the reality of war (even for those that called for US intervention) is hard to endure.

Why change your username for threads on conflict in the ME? People normally name change for subjects they feel are embarrassing or could be “outing” re their identity.

I don’t change mine because I stand by my beliefs. Though do then get “accused” of posting too much in these boards. I suppose I could appear to post less by changing my username regularly but that sounds a bit pathetic really.

Iranians say they fear Iran being turned into another Iraq.And why wouldn't they? Given US track record? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/14/anti-regime-iranians-turn-on-trump-us

In more recent reports, Iranians are not asking for bombing to continue. Now that civilian deaths are high, the capital is destroyed and Hegseth is raining down death and destruction.

There were definitely threads where posters viewed this war as a positive thing, cheering it on and predicting freedom for the Iranian people from their current regime. I was gobsmacked that they could be so naive. History (even fairly recent) teaches us that’s not how it goes! This war will profit certain people for sure, will it be the Iranian citizens? I highly doubt it, the signs aren’t good, and they are suffering more at the moment than before the war.
The fall out for the Middle East is not good, destabilisation is a real issue. And the global economic fall out is also becoming very painful. What a mess all round.

Also sometimes peace is won through war, the illusion that diplomacy works assumes that your opponents aren’t solely motivated by self interest and religious fanaticism. The idea that if we are just “nice” enough and “reasonable” enough is ridiculous. It’s seen as weakness and rightly so. Russian invaded Ukraine (drones supplied by Iran) because they rightly calculated the west wouldn’t do shit about it.

Iran destabilises the region

They funded and trained Hezbollah who are involved in the drugs trade, not only in the region but also in the US and the west (see drugs, money laundering and drone manufacture in Venezuela)

Also the lebanese government isn’t in control of Lebanon, Hezbollah is.

they propped up Assad who with the help of the IRCG and Hezbollah murderd 500k syrians

They funded the Houthis, who brought back slavery and a caste system and sue child soldiers

Hamas who not only kill Israelis but are pretty busy shooting gazans in the adms and legs

Thats just the topline stuff, they’ve been doing this for decades.

I have literally never seen the civilians of any country asking foreigners to come bomb their country. EVER? I assume the Iranians think it’s worth it.

Also whats all this nonsense about “caring”. What matters is outcomes, not peoples feelings. Lets say the Iranians eventually have a free democratic country where women aren’t raped before they are hanged. Do you think they will lie awake thinking “yeah but I don’t feel like Trump really actually cares for me, like he never really truly had proper feelingz for us”.

I agree its media saturated and outside of our control.

I chose hope. A world without the Iranian regime and its proxy terrorist groups has to be better for the majority of people.

Whilst I think the regime is abhorrent the actions by the USA in my view were wrong. I think the U.K. should not get involved. Trump
probably now realises it is not as easy as he thinks to tipple the regime, his latest call to other for help just which is now threatening is another example of his bullying behaviour

I'm sorry your friends are going through this. I cannot imagine what it's like for them, being both hopeful but terrified.

I hope they get freedom from the regime with a better way forward.

Not seen a thread where people are 'rejoicing' or where people are 'leftsplaining' whatever that is. Or seen your user name on a thread arguing against those imagined things people are supposed to have done/said.

Apart from Twiglets posters are either new people or name change for this thread 🤔. Sometimes, threads feel like they are created as a gotcha attempt, but fail miserably.

I remember some Iranian people calling for help when the regime slaughtered thousands of protesters. I recall less interest in criticising the Iran regime than might be expected, since they had slaughtered thousands of their own people, indeed, lots of young protesters. The ones against the regime certainly needed support or help.

Wars are awful and many people die. They are never to be 'rejoiced' about, although people may hope the end result is regime change and no nuclear weapons development potential, for a regime that will happily fire missiles and drones at their peaceful, neighbouring countries who aren't at war with them.

Apart from that, what can be said to someone new, about previous discussions to someone, who didn't discuss those things 🤔

It is so sad that innocent Iranians are getting caught up in Trumps ego trip. Seeing a video today of a terrified young Iranian boy searching for his mother after their house had been bombed was absolutely heart breaking. I feel so sad for the suffering of the innocent in this war, and just hope they eventually find peace.

When the war ends Iran will still be divided about the way forward, but one thing certain is no one will want Trump putting a puppet government in place.