Trump to use British bases for ‘surge’ in Iran attacks

Your choice not to counter my arguments.

Its the same line of argumentation that deems any point against Zionism as antisemitism. Its the same line of argumentation that would rather prescribe any liberation movement as terrorism. Its the same line of argumentation that would regard any opposition members as some weird cartoon villains or illiterate cavemen that need to be democratized.

The old conundrum of who started it. Reminds me of Fawlty Towers, 'you started it, you invaded Poland'.
The Iranian ambassador to Lebanon had a Hezbollah pager, and the regime do like to help Russia's dirty work against 'the west'. Green prince bod thinks 7/10 jumped the gun and the plan was for something much bigger. I doubt if mn are privy to whether what's happening now is the least worst option, but something has been brewing.
I miss Gorbachev.

But that's a different topic.

It really isn't, but you keep want to sidestepping the awkward reality that you appear to think it's OK to use your shorthand, "legit" to knock seven bells out of anyone in range who the Iranian regime perceive as the opposition, but it's all "international law" and "un charters" when the reality turns into a two way range.

Look I get it, your POV comes over clearly with: we forget these are the groups still aid thevpalestinian resistance"...so I,'m happy to accept your never going to move from "US/Israel bad," and not engage in further debate with you.

100%. But that's a different topic.
In what concerns bases, only us and NATO have such a big expansion, and the problem.is using these bases for the interest of us not the host country (as discussed for example about RAF akrotiri).
In what concerns the proxies, we forget these are the groups still aid thevpalestinian resistance, exposing the hypocrisy of any western gov that has forgotten about the un charters for human rights and international law on armed resistance.
Didn't see anyone cry with trump encouraging us proxies, the Kurds to send ground forces in.

They don't need formal bases,.they hide behind their proxies..which is handy because it gives them some deniability which is useful for those arguing in bad faith.

Where does ir an have bases outside its territory? Sorry I' am not familiar

No "anyways", you seem to be suffering with a case of "it's OK when Iran does it it's not OK when Israel does it..."

Keep running cover for gen0cide!

I didn't just say they are targeted because they merely host bases, I said they are targeted because they were used to launch attacks to another country.
Anyway, isn't this the reason bases exist? So that the native and non-native parties defend or attack others as a coalition.

@Angelyoga

Since these countries host us bases where attacks were initiated from (also on last year's war) they are legitimate targets.

Think hard about that....

I'm not sure using a definition that a legit target/country is anyone that hosts non-native forces or even proxies advances your cause one bit....

I'm sorry but I just don't think you're going to get a response from anyone now.

But really what excuse does Israel have for burning down oil depositories in Tehran that cause carcinogenic acid rain across the region??

How could I forget!
With one correction though. Since these countries host us bases where attacks were initiated from (also on last year's war) they are legitimate targets.
My understanding is that CIA, us, and so on use hotels, residential buildings etc for their troops, and offices so again, they are legitimate targets.

Called out by you?

I'd like a response on this: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/israel-defense-minister-human-animals-gaza-palestine_n_6524220ae4b09f4b8d412e0a

I see that this war is going to cost consumers a good deal of money. Thanks Trump.

Don't forget it appears Iran started chucking missiles and drones at places like the UAE without direct provocation from those states so in the context of that ordnance I'd suggest despite your take on it there's no clear case of "you started it"....

Well, Iran was attacked so whoever did the first strike is the aggressor. Could be Isr a el, could be Us.
So Iran is in defense, the west is in offense. The UK is helping the aggressor.

Apart from that though, this 'war' or preemptive deterrence or whatever you want to call it is Illegal. Cannot underscore this enough.
The humanitarian disasters, environmental pollution, attacks on schools, hospitals, residential areas, oil depositories could all be classed as war crimes.
Is that something we could argue is defensive strikes?

If they are attacking missile or drone production and launch sites does that make the strikes offensive or defensive?

TBH regardless of the above I doubt the Iranian regime has a list somewhere of legit targets.

I saw reports claiming us aircrafts departed the UK for direct strikes against Iran. Offensive ones.
This surely opens us up to liability and makes us a legit target.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/israel-defense-minister-human-animals-gaza-palestine_n_6524220ae4b09f4b8d412e0a

Israeli Defense Minister Announces Siege On Gaza To Fight ‘Human Animals’

It seems to me like a victim hood card that is used to divert attention from matters of enacted gen 0cide (according to several national governments), the disregard for international law and the abuse of human life inside an open-prison.