Iranian War Is Not The Same As Iraq

They particularly fall back to it if they have an anti Western mindset which many seem to have these days - even Westerners.

I think the Iraq war fried a lot of peoples brains tbh. It’s the only war many people can actually reference so they fall back to that a lot.

Any war will have several different motivations not just one. And the Middle East was already destabilised largely due to Iran and their proxies.

People talk about plans for after the war - how do we know what plans may or may not be in place after the war? Did Britain have a plan for after the war when they went to war with Germany? Maybe they did I don’t know - or maybe they just felt the Nazi regime had to fall.

Seems to me one person on the internet says, what’s the plan for afterwards? And everyone repeats it.

I think people think that Gaza, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran, Yemen are all separate spaces, so when the USA or Israel launch attacks there it looks chaotic. It’s not separate though, these are all part of the same conflict with Iran as the backer. Also Syria under assad.

The point is if the IRCG falls you will eventually see stabilisation in the region. Funding cut off to Hamas, Hezbollah, houthis, militias in Iraq should actually see a reduction in violence in the long term

You are already starting to see the effects in Lebanon. Hezbollah fired at Israel because they are stupid, Israel responded and the Lebanese prime minister has told them they need to hand over their weapons and to sit down and shut up. There are pro-hezb accounts on twitter bemoaning Hezbollah’s behaviour. They have already been clearing weapons out of the Palestinian camps in Lebanon. They have the chance to be a normal country soon hopefully.

Cutting off China from Iranian oil will make everyone safer frankly and hopefully Ukrainians will stop being bombed with shaheed drones at some point.

Also Iranians are not Iraqis, there isn’t the same tribal sentiments, they aren’t arabs. It’s an entirely different country. Yes there are multiple ethnicities and no doubt some will agitate for independence movements.

Fundamentally in my view if you believe that Palestinians should have a state that is run for their own benefit and freedom to behave as a normal country (which I do, even if they keep kicking themselves in the ass) then you should wish that for Iranians too.

People who oppose this action either don’t understand whats going on, have a third worldist view so can’t identify the IRCG as imperialists or oppressors (which astounds me), are so anti war that they would have let numerous peoples around the world be massacred so they could feel smug or do understand and feel sad at the idea that a bunch of terror groups are about to get their funding massively diminished.

That’s why I said there is “a similarity”.

But there are also many differences. The Iranian regime is destabilising the whole region by funding & using their proxies Hamas, Hezbollah & the Houthis to cause perpetual trouble in various regions across the ME.

How is it a delicious irony that I acknowledged there is one big similarity but many differences?

It’s too simplistic to say that this war is just the same as the Iraq war, it isn’t.

I think there are several similarities.

Iran under the theocracy and Iraq under Saddam Hussein are both brutal regimes.

The US has pretended to be concerned for the citizens of the country but there are other reasons for the attacks.

Danger of destabilisation in the wider Middle East.

No planning for what happens if/when the regime falls. In Iraq, that left a power vacuum which led to the rise of Isis.

So not really that different at all.

So?

Oh the delicious irony. We went to war in Iraq to stop them deploying their Weapons of Mass Destruction remember?

I agree with you @HappyFace2025

There is a similarity in that the US want to prevent Iran developing weapons of mass destruction.

Apart from that, completely different scenarios.

Completely agree. People are incredibly naive, at best, about the nature and reach of the Iranian regime.