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I need to say this out loud

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simplesimoneatspie · 02/03/2026 18:06

As a British citizen I am disgusted in the utter cowardice of my own government at the moment. If you are an American citizen please believe that there are people in the UK who have no respect for the way we are distancing ourselves from what is happening in the Middle East.
Your government has backbone and courage and wants to do the right thing for all our children’s futures.
I applaud Trump for standing up for his country, military, citizens of Iran…the world, and he doesn't care who he might offend in doing so.
It’s such a pity the same can’t be said for our ‘leader’. I am actually ashamed of my country at this moment in time. I truly hope this changes over the coming days/weeks.

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Doteycat · 03/03/2026 09:25

simplesimoneatspie · 02/03/2026 18:06

As a British citizen I am disgusted in the utter cowardice of my own government at the moment. If you are an American citizen please believe that there are people in the UK who have no respect for the way we are distancing ourselves from what is happening in the Middle East.
Your government has backbone and courage and wants to do the right thing for all our children’s futures.
I applaud Trump for standing up for his country, military, citizens of Iran…the world, and he doesn't care who he might offend in doing so.
It’s such a pity the same can’t be said for our ‘leader’. I am actually ashamed of my country at this moment in time. I truly hope this changes over the coming days/weeks.

Absolute rubbish.

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 09:24

Boolabus · 03/03/2026 08:47

Yes so my point that Iranians are probably more at risk now than ever from both the regime and external bombings stands. I would liken it to a DV situation when the abuser gets wind that his victim may be making plans to escape the situation, things generally escalate and the abuse increases in intensity.

There were many posters on these threads criticising posters who were expressing concern over what was happening and accusing them of being supportive of the Iranian murderous regime, unfortunately it looks like their concerns were justified.

They may be at more risk at this exact moment in time but as long as he war doesn’t drag on, they will hopefully be in a better position at the end than if the regime went unchallenged.

The DV victim in your scenario is right to try to escape. And the Iranian regime is inflicting their violence on thousands of people not just one person.

Mercurial123 · 03/03/2026 09:01

1dayatatime · 03/03/2026 08:55

Yet another batshit bollocks conspiracy theory posted in an attempt by the poster to a) think of themselves that somehow they are superior and "in the know" compared to ordinary folk and b) in the hope that if you throw out the same shit enough times then maybe some of it will stick and create doubt in some gullible minds.

Either way and unless you have any credible evidence to back it up, it needs to be exposed to what it really is narcissistic batshit bollocks conspiracy theories.

"Batshit bollocks" perfectly describes Trump.

Supersimkin7 · 03/03/2026 09:01

I’m pigsick of fighting other people’s battles.

Why? Imperialism isn’t a great idea.

PistachioTiramisu · 03/03/2026 08:56

I can't stand Starmer or anything he stands for, but in this instance he is right. Why should we get involved in a war which has nothing whatsoever to do with us?

1dayatatime · 03/03/2026 08:55

Squirrelsnut · 03/03/2026 06:58

It's to distract from Epstein. Don't be naive.

Yet another batshit bollocks conspiracy theory posted in an attempt by the poster to a) think of themselves that somehow they are superior and "in the know" compared to ordinary folk and b) in the hope that if you throw out the same shit enough times then maybe some of it will stick and create doubt in some gullible minds.

Either way and unless you have any credible evidence to back it up, it needs to be exposed to what it really is narcissistic batshit bollocks conspiracy theories.

TomeTome · 03/03/2026 08:52

Eyesopenwideawake · 02/03/2026 18:20

Totally disagree. I think the UK should align with the Spanish, who have unequivocally told Trump to fuck off.

This is how I feel. I don’t want any part in bombing Iran or anyone else. I’m not in anyway impressed by countries that remove other countries leaders by force. As for bombing primary schools? There are no words to convey my disgust.

Boolabus · 03/03/2026 08:47

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 08:35

Regime change was not mentioned when outlining the US's goals at this White House appearance. However, when questioned by CNN he did confirm that US was doing more, beyond the military assault, to help the Iranian people regain control of their country.

I think it's fair to believe though, that regime change is not the US's primary goal. I think there are many reasons for this war and regime change just one of them and not necessarily the most important one to the US. Regime change probably more important to Israel who have been attacked recently by the proxies of the current regime.

www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-03/donald-trump-speaks-on-iran-war/106408094

Yes so my point that Iranians are probably more at risk now than ever from both the regime and external bombings stands. I would liken it to a DV situation when the abuser gets wind that his victim may be making plans to escape the situation, things generally escalate and the abuse increases in intensity.

There were many posters on these threads criticising posters who were expressing concern over what was happening and accusing them of being supportive of the Iranian murderous regime, unfortunately it looks like their concerns were justified.

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 08:35

Boolabus · 03/03/2026 08:21

So nothing to do with regime change, which was the reason for all the celebrations.... no idea why people believed Trump cared about ordinary civilians in Iran they are just pawns in his games and are probably at more risk now than ever

Regime change was not mentioned when outlining the US's goals at this White House appearance. However, when questioned by CNN he did confirm that US was doing more, beyond the military assault, to help the Iranian people regain control of their country.

I think it's fair to believe though, that regime change is not the US's primary goal. I think there are many reasons for this war and regime change just one of them and not necessarily the most important one to the US. Regime change probably more important to Israel who have been attacked recently by the proxies of the current regime.

www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-03/donald-trump-speaks-on-iran-war/106408094

Boolabus · 03/03/2026 08:21

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 08:09

Trump has laid out four objectives, later clarified further by the White House.
They are:

  • Destroying the regime's ballistic missile stocks and its capacity to produce new ones. "You see that happening on an hourly basis," Mr Trump said.
  • "Annihilating" the Iranian navy. Ten ships had already been "knocked out" and were "at the bottom of the sea", he said.
  • Preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
  • Stopping Iran from arming, funding and directing proxy militant groups.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-03/donald-trump-speaks-on-iran-war/106408094

So nothing to do with regime change, which was the reason for all the celebrations.... no idea why people believed Trump cared about ordinary civilians in Iran they are just pawns in his games and are probably at more risk now than ever

Dontgetfooledagain · 03/03/2026 08:19

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 08:07

Has the Epstein case gone away or been forgotten about? No.

People are entitled to disagree with the war of course but please try to think of a better reason than because Epstein.

I think domestic pressures are absolutely why Trump is choosing to attack Iran now. Epstein is definitely a pressure point, as are his economic issues and falling popularity. Plus a good brief war is good for commodity prices so his rich supporters will get richer.

Squirrelsnut · 03/03/2026 08:10

SharonEllis · 03/03/2026 07:50

Of all the takes this is the silliest. Even Americans can hold two thoughts at once.

😂
Job done, boys.

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 08:09

NotDarkGothicMama · 03/03/2026 08:07

I disagree OP. It's not at all clear what this war is for: regime change, destroying nuclear and ballistic missile capabilities, regional stability..? Trump says multiple different things a day.

We're allowing the US to use our bases in the region but I don't think we should get involved further than that unless and until there's a clear, stated and achievable aim that we agree with and is in the UK's interests.

Trump has laid out four objectives, later clarified further by the White House.
They are:

  • Destroying the regime's ballistic missile stocks and its capacity to produce new ones. "You see that happening on an hourly basis," Mr Trump said.
  • "Annihilating" the Iranian navy. Ten ships had already been "knocked out" and were "at the bottom of the sea", he said.
  • Preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
  • Stopping Iran from arming, funding and directing proxy militant groups.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-03/donald-trump-speaks-on-iran-war/106408094

Trump lists four goals in Iran as Middle East war widens

Speaking at his first White House appearance since the joint US-Israeli attack began, the US president says he seized "our last, best chance" to strike Iran's "sick and sinister regime".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-03/donald-trump-speaks-on-iran-war/106408094

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 08:07

Dontgetfooledagain · 03/03/2026 08:04

Of course not but it does shift the media focus somewhat. Distract, disassemble, bait and switch is pretty much the Trump playbook.

Has the Epstein case gone away or been forgotten about? No.

People are entitled to disagree with the war of course but please try to think of a better reason than because Epstein.

NotDarkGothicMama · 03/03/2026 08:07

I disagree OP. It's not at all clear what this war is for: regime change, destroying nuclear and ballistic missile capabilities, regional stability..? Trump says multiple different things a day.

We're allowing the US to use our bases in the region but I don't think we should get involved further than that unless and until there's a clear, stated and achievable aim that we agree with and is in the UK's interests.

socks1107 · 03/03/2026 08:07

I’m glad we haven’t gone in with bombs. This isn’t our war and we are right to wait it out.

Dontgetfooledagain · 03/03/2026 08:04

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 08:01

Yes this one is a real reach.

The Epstein case hasn't gone away because the US is at war with Iran.

Of course not but it does shift the media focus somewhat. Distract, disassemble, bait and switch is pretty much the Trump playbook.

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 08:01

SharonEllis · 03/03/2026 07:50

Of all the takes this is the silliest. Even Americans can hold two thoughts at once.

Yes this one is a real reach.

The Epstein case hasn't gone away because the US is at war with Iran.

Holymolyrigmorole · 03/03/2026 07:54

OP hasn’t been back, then

FWIW I totally disagree within OP position and I glad Starmer is keeping us out of this

SharonEllis · 03/03/2026 07:51

Aliceisagooddog · 03/03/2026 07:21

Fuck Israel and the USA. NOT IN MY NAME.

Im not aware that it's being done in your name.

SharonEllis · 03/03/2026 07:50

Squirrelsnut · 03/03/2026 06:58

It's to distract from Epstein. Don't be naive.

Of all the takes this is the silliest. Even Americans can hold two thoughts at once.

WeepingAngelInTheTardis · 03/03/2026 07:21

I would rather tariffs than getting involved with a second illegal war and having our men & women come home in bodybags again.

Aliceisagooddog · 03/03/2026 07:21

Fuck Israel and the USA. NOT IN MY NAME.

Dontgetfooledagain · 03/03/2026 07:15

So you are seriously suggesting we bomb Iran with Trump in the hope that we dont get stung w more tariffs in the future? Cause I dont think that's a strategy with any likelihood success (as well as being morally reprehensible).

TaffetaPhrases · 03/03/2026 07:09

Dontgetfooledagain · 03/03/2026 06:56

Were you under the impression that we've been friendly (or even neutral) with Iran for the past 50 years? Hate to break it to you but we haven't. The good news is that we are no more a target now than we've ever been.

I don’t mean an Iranian target. Trump and tariffs.

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