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Israel stopping 35 NGOS from working in West Bank or Gaza

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Aliceisagooddog · 31/12/2025 19:19

How on earth can this be justified? Organisations like MAP which have worked for years and are fully registered. Another example of Israels inhumanity.

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ReturnOfTheToad · 05/02/2026 09:42

Boolabus · 05/02/2026 08:09

Israeli government are also still funding a Palestinian militia group whose sole aim seems to be to terrorise Palestinians, looks like they have not learned from the past. None of this is going to end well.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4g3rne4n7o

Yes their support of the Abu Shabab militia is well documented.

Some cheek to show photos of weapons hidden in blankets and call it proof of Unwra being hamas when they have been arming and aiding militia to steal unwra aid and Israelis have been found to be illegally smuggling into Gaza. 117 unwra facilities like the one photographed are in Israel controlled zones behind the 'yellow line' where Israeli smugglers and the Abu Shabab militia are allowed to operate but unwra are severely restricted and have been for months. Suddenly finding arms in land that has been controlled by Israel and accessed by Israeli smugglers and Israeli backed militia for months is not proof of anything.

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 08:16

ReturnOfTheToad · 05/02/2026 07:59

'This means that you think' really? We are actually telling people what they think now?

You are back to calling me an Israel hater, something that you have been deleted for previously and are now literally telling me what I think rather than reading my posts which repeatedly say terrorist supporter. I'm going to back away slowly from this one.w

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You literally said Israel are proven terrorist supporting liars. Then you clarified that by "Israel" you meant the Israel government. Who are the terrorists the Israel government are supporting if not the IDF?

Boolabus · 05/02/2026 08:09

Israeli government are also still funding a Palestinian militia group whose sole aim seems to be to terrorise Palestinians, looks like they have not learned from the past. None of this is going to end well.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4g3rne4n7o

A young Palestinian boy being hugged by adults looks towards the camera at Nasser hospital, in Khan Younis, Gaza, after passing through the Rafah crossing with Egypt (2 February 2026)

Gazans returning through Rafah crossing describe checks by Palestinian militia

One Palestinian woman said members of the Israel-linked militia searched them and their belongings at an Israeli checkpoint inside Gaza.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4g3rne4n7o

ReturnOfTheToad · 05/02/2026 07:59

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 07:48

Sorry - I edited my post but I see you replied to the unedited version in which I questioned who you mean by "Israel" since you appeared in your post to be blaming the whole country.

Ok - you blame the government for supporting terrorists. This means you think the IDF are terrorists so the rest of my post still stands.

Assuming you mean the IDF, they are not proscribed terrorists in the UK so calling them terrorists is your opinion and out of step with the UK definition of them which would be more "an army".

'This means that you think' really? We are actually telling people what they think now?

You are back to calling me an Israel hater, something that you have been deleted for previously and are now literally telling me what I think rather than reading my posts which repeatedly say terrorist supporter. I'm going to back away slowly from this one.w

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 07:48

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Sorry - I edited my post but I see you replied to the unedited version in which I questioned who you mean by "Israel" since you appeared in your post to be blaming the whole country.

Ok - you blame the government for supporting terrorists. This means you think the IDF are terrorists so the rest of my post still stands.

Assuming you mean the IDF, they are not proscribed terrorists in the UK so calling them terrorists is your opinion and out of step with the UK definition of them which would be more "an army".

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Ellen2shoes · 04/02/2026 21:59

ReturnOfTheToad · 04/02/2026 21:42

There really needs some context to this. When was the last time unwra workers were allowed anywhere near this aid, unwra have struggled for a long time to distribute aid, how long has that aid been left unattened? Israel were allowing and encouraging militias that they armed to steal aid. Was this aid stolen as part of that campaign? Unwra blankets are presumably handed out to all and sundry as aid, anyone could have an unwra blanket. Israel are known for their misinformation campaigns. They really need to start proving all of these allegations against unwra because without proof claims from the IDF and Israeli government who are actual proven lying, terrorist supporters mean nothing.

https://www.unrwa.org/sites/default/files/unrwa_claims_vs_facts_feb_2025.pdf

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Exactly.

ReturnOfTheToad · 04/02/2026 21:42

KatiePricesKnickers · 04/02/2026 21:08

This is partially why Israel implemented the policy.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-885423

‘IDF finds huge haul of mortars in UNRWA blankets, humanitarian aid’

There really needs some context to this. When was the last time unwra workers were allowed anywhere near this aid, unwra have struggled for a long time to distribute aid, how long has that aid been left unattened? Israel were allowing and encouraging militias that they armed to steal aid. Was this aid stolen as part of that campaign? Unwra blankets are presumably handed out to all and sundry as aid, anyone could have an unwra blanket. Israel are known for their misinformation campaigns. They really need to start proving all of these allegations against unwra because without proof claims from the IDF and Israeli government who are actual proven lying, terrorist supporters mean nothing.

https://www.unrwa.org/sites/default/files/unrwa_claims_vs_facts_feb_2025.pdf

Twiglets1 · 04/02/2026 21:12

KatiePricesKnickers · 04/02/2026 21:08

This is partially why Israel implemented the policy.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-885423

‘IDF finds huge haul of mortars in UNRWA blankets, humanitarian aid’

Yes I saw that.

What a disgrace.

KatiePricesKnickers · 04/02/2026 21:08

This is partially why Israel implemented the policy.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-885423

‘IDF finds huge haul of mortars in UNRWA blankets, humanitarian aid’

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 10:07

MissyB1 · 02/02/2026 08:45

Are Hamas killing Israeli children every day? How many Israeli children have they killed so far? Why are you still using “but Hamas” as a justification for the IDF to continue killing civilians?

It's sad that this is still happening. Israel are killing children but Hamas crossed the yellow line...like the two things are in any way comparable. 1 in 50 Palestinian children are dead and still people can't just agree that it needs to stop, no ifs, no buts, stop using children's lives as 'retaliation'.

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 09:12

MissyB1 · 02/02/2026 08:45

Are Hamas killing Israeli children every day? How many Israeli children have they killed so far? Why are you still using “but Hamas” as a justification for the IDF to continue killing civilians?

No Hamas aren’t killing Israeli children every day. The only reason for this is that they don’t have the opportunity to.

They have a desire to kill all Jews which is why they have to be defeated and they will be. But I hope not through the war in Gaza resuming again.

MissyB1 · 02/02/2026 08:45

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 08:29

It also doesn't seem too much to ask that Hamas accept they are defeated, stick to their own side of the yellow line and agree to demilitarise but they don't.

Hamas are a threat to Israeli children until they are defeated because their aim is to destroy Jews. So they will be defeated one way or the other but avoiding a return to the war would be good.

Are Hamas killing Israeli children every day? How many Israeli children have they killed so far? Why are you still using “but Hamas” as a justification for the IDF to continue killing civilians?

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 08:43

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 08:29

It also doesn't seem too much to ask that Hamas accept they are defeated, stick to their own side of the yellow line and agree to demilitarise but they don't.

Hamas are a threat to Israeli children until they are defeated because their aim is to destroy Jews. So they will be defeated one way or the other but avoiding a return to the war would be good.

I'm afraid blowing up children in retaliation for Hamas not staying behind a 'yellow line' isn't acceptable to me. Shoot Hamas when they cross the line if you determine 100% that they are indeed Hamas if you must, but bombing and killing children because 'you crossed a yellow line' is not OK. I wouldn't agree with Hamas blowing up 400 Israeli children because Israel have breached the ceasefire either. I wouldn't call it a ceasefire if Hamas were killing scores of Israeli children whenever they felt there has been a breach either.

20000 dead children, 1 in 50 children in Gaza are dead and the number is still rising, the threat to Palestinian children is still very much alive I don't believe killing Israeli children is the answer to that though.

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 08:29

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 08:21

I'd rather a ceasefire meant that both sides can tuck their children safely into bed without them being blown to pieces. Palestinians aren't blowing up Israeli children, it doesn't seem like too much to ask that Israel restrain themselves and do the same.

It also doesn't seem too much to ask that Hamas accept they are defeated, stick to their own side of the yellow line and agree to demilitarise but they don't.

Hamas are a threat to Israeli children until they are defeated because their aim is to destroy Jews. So they will be defeated one way or the other but avoiding a return to the war would be good.

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 08:21

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 08:15

So no credit to Trump or the many other people involved in the peace plan? I'm not a fan of Trump normally but have to give him credit for that because it did seem an impossible task.

Would you rather the war had continued as it was going @ReturnOfTheToad ? If so you are in agreement with the most extreme far right members of Israel’s governing coalition. People like Smotrich would be only too glad to have an excuse to say - the truce isn't working, let's forget this silly "ceasefire" & resume full hostilities.

I'd rather a ceasefire meant that both sides can tuck their children safely into bed without them being blown to pieces. Palestinians aren't blowing up Israeli children, it doesn't seem like too much to ask that Israel restrain themselves and do the same.

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 08:15

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 08:02

Yes, a permanent 'stop' for the 500 people including 100 children who have been killed. Trump definitely deserves some of the credit for that. It's only 1 in 4000 people being killed now not 1 in 28, great success, the greatest of successes, someone should give them a peace prize.

So no credit to Trump or the many other people involved in the peace plan? I'm not a fan of Trump normally but have to give him credit for that because it did seem an impossible task.

Would you rather the war had continued as it was going @ReturnOfTheToad ? If so you are in agreement with the most extreme far right members of Israel’s governing coalition. People like Smotrich would be only too glad to have an excuse to say - the truce isn't working, let's forget this silly "ceasefire" & resume full hostilities.

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 08:02

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 07:51

I meant the many people who have designed the peace plan, somehow got both sides to agree to it and are implementing it under extremely difficult circumstances.

They have made things happen - a stop (hopefully permanent) to this horrible war and deserve some credit for that I think, even Trump.

Yes, a permanent 'stop' for the 500 people including 100 children who have been killed. Trump definitely deserves some of the credit for that. It's only 1 in 4000 people being killed now not 1 in 28, great success, the greatest of successes, someone should give them a peace prize.

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 07:51

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 07:41

'Make things happen' that's some way to describe killing 500 people but alright.

I meant the many people who have designed the peace plan, somehow got both sides to agree to it and are implementing it under extremely difficult circumstances.

They have made things happen - a stop (hopefully permanent) to this horrible war and deserve some credit for that I think, even Trump.

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 07:48

MissyB1 · 02/02/2026 07:33

Surely it’s not about whether to accept the word ceasefire? But more about what the word ceasefire means? As the killing of innocent civilians has continued every day don’t you think that makes a mockery of the use of the word?

Hamas have also violated the agreement many times. Just last Friday, eight terrorists were identified exiting an underground terror in eastern Rafah, the area where Israeli forces are deployed under the October agreement.

Hamas also have yet to disarm and are now disputing that they ever agreed to, so it seems that what they want is for the war in Gaza to resume. This is more worrying for the implications it would have on huge numbers of civilian deaths than what you are focusing on - whether the term "ceasefire" is entirely appropriate when yes - the IDF (& Hamas) have not completely stopped any military action at all.

Despite this, the ceasefire holds just about and full scale war is avoided.

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 07:41

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 05:11

It is a ceasefire whether you recognise it or not. Because it is a ceasefire certain things can happen such as the Rafah crossing opening today and the beginning of the reconstruction of parts of Gaza.

There’s you still not accepting phase 1 has occurred while the people who make things happen have moved into phase 2.

'Make things happen' that's some way to describe killing 500 people but alright.

MissyB1 · 02/02/2026 07:33

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 05:11

It is a ceasefire whether you recognise it or not. Because it is a ceasefire certain things can happen such as the Rafah crossing opening today and the beginning of the reconstruction of parts of Gaza.

There’s you still not accepting phase 1 has occurred while the people who make things happen have moved into phase 2.

Surely it’s not about whether to accept the word ceasefire? But more about what the word ceasefire means? As the killing of innocent civilians has continued every day don’t you think that makes a mockery of the use of the word?