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Study reveals majority of Gaza war 'journalists' tied to terror groups

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Twiglets1 · 11/12/2025 13:57

Posted in Ynet today:

A new study has found that about 60 percent of the people described as journalists or media workers who were killed during the war in the Gaza Strip were Hamas operatives or members of other terror groups.

The research, published Thursday morning by the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, examined the identities of 266 Palestinians who were labeled as journalists or media workers and died in the fighting. At least 157 of them were operatives or individuals affiliated with terror organizations.

The study follows an earlier report released by the center in February last year that reviewed the identities of 131 Palestinians described in Gaza as journalists or media workers. The new research looked at an additional 135 Palestinians who have been killed since then and found that about 60 percent of all the casualties in this category were members of terror groups.

According to the findings, 104 of those described as journalists or media workers were Hamas members, including at least 47 who were part of the terror group or served as military operatives. Another 45 were operatives or affiliated with Palestinian Islamic Jihad, including at least 18 identified as members or military operatives. Two were identified as operatives of Fatah’s military wing, two belonged to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, one to the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and one to the Popular Resistance Committees.

The study also noted two media workers who were described after their deaths as military operatives, although their organizational affiliation was not identified. Among 109 additional fatalities examined, eight were identified with Fatah and seven with the Palestinian Authority. No affiliation was found for the remaining 94.

Researchers said the study was based on a list of media workers published by Hamas’ government information office in Gaza. The center cross referenced the list with reports from Palestinian media outlets and with a Hamas document uncovered by Israel Defense Forces troops during ground operations in Gaza. The document included names and roles of operatives in the Gaza Brigade of Hamas’ military wing.

Hamas considers journalists a critical part of its propaganda apparatus and its efforts to shape public perception and incite violence, the center emphasized. Terror groups in Gaza, led by Hamas, operate numerous media outlets aligned with them. Hamas leaders have repeatedly said that the media front is as important as the military one.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hyjqezozze

Study reveals majority of Gaza war 'journalists' tied to terror groups

New study reveals at least 157 of 266 Palestinians labeled as journalists and killed in Gaza were operatives or affiliates of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, highlighting how terror groups embed media workers in propaganda and military activity

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hyjqezozze

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Twiglets1 · 11/12/2025 19:13

Martymcfly24 · 11/12/2025 19:07

So why weren't they included in the 60% then because those organizations were mentioned in the original number . So we are back to 40% not being affiliated with any terrorist organization but were still murdered by the IDF , the same people who supplied the information to the institution with a Hamas document uncovered by Israel Defense Forces troops during ground operations in Gaza. The document included names and roles of operatives in the Gaza Brigade of Hamas’ military wing
To be fair it's a very poorly written article, it is very hard to follow what the numbers actually are when they have added them to last February numbers .

I think it's clear that some of the "journalists" killed they didn't know who they were working for but since they were engaged in military operations, it was a fair guess they were being employed by someone in a capacity beyond the purely journalistic.

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SharonEllis · 11/12/2025 19:12

CrossChecking · 11/12/2025 19:09

Well I am shocked 😲 I mean if the murderers say that they were terrorists then they must be, what possible reason could have for lying about things, again 🤔

Its not murder in a war, except in particular circumstances, as everyone knows.

Twiglets1 · 11/12/2025 19:09

SharonEllis · 11/12/2025 19:01

I imagine they are delighted to have an excuse not to put themsrlves at the mercy if Hamas while being able to criticise Israel. Win win all round.

yup - imagine if Netanyahu had suddenly invited international journalists to wander at will throughout Gaza during the peak in fighting, without IDF protection.

Not sure there would have been a long queue for that assignment - they would probably have ended up being held hostage in tunnels for months if not killed outright.

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CrossChecking · 11/12/2025 19:09

Everexpanding · 11/12/2025 17:32

If former Mossad members criticise you maybe not the most reliable source, definitely not impartial

The head of ITIC, IDF colonel Reuven Ehrlich, denied in 2018 that ITIC was a "public relations shop" for the Israeli military, but acknowledged that their reports "often happen to turn out to be very good material for public relations for Israel".[3]
Several former members of the Israeli intelligence community (Mossad, Military Intelligence, the Shin Bet, and Nativ) have criticized the "symbiotic" relationship between the center and Israeli military intelligence and the center's establishment, arguing that the connection of military intelligence with a propaganda body would be detrimental to "objective" and "ideologically unbiased" analysis.[4]

Well I am shocked 😲 I mean if the murderers say that they were terrorists then they must be, what possible reason could have for lying about things, again 🤔

Martymcfly24 · 11/12/2025 19:07

Twiglets1 · 11/12/2025 18:59

There are other organisations operating in Gaza named in the report:

Palestinian Islamic Jihad, including at least 18 identified as members or military operatives. Two were identified as operatives of Fatah’s military wing, two belonged to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, one to the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and one to the Popular Resistance Committees.

So why weren't they included in the 60% then because those organizations were mentioned in the original number . So we are back to 40% not being affiliated with any terrorist organization but were still murdered by the IDF , the same people who supplied the information to the institution with a Hamas document uncovered by Israel Defense Forces troops during ground operations in Gaza. The document included names and roles of operatives in the Gaza Brigade of Hamas’ military wing
To be fair it's a very poorly written article, it is very hard to follow what the numbers actually are when they have added them to last February numbers .

SharonEllis · 11/12/2025 19:01

Perfect28 · 11/12/2025 17:53

@Twiglets1the journalists know the risks. Israel know they are doing wrong or they wouldn't try and hide it.

I imagine they are delighted to have an excuse not to put themsrlves at the mercy if Hamas while being able to criticise Israel. Win win all round.

Twiglets1 · 11/12/2025 18:59

Martymcfly24 · 11/12/2025 18:55

So 60% were affiliated and some others were military operatives?
How does that work if there is no military in Gaza only Hamas?
Who were they military operatives for?

There are other organisations operating in Gaza named in the report:

Palestinian Islamic Jihad, including at least 18 identified as members or military operatives. Two were identified as operatives of Fatah’s military wing, two belonged to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, one to the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and one to the Popular Resistance Committees.

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Twiglets1 · 11/12/2025 18:56

AcademyFootball · 11/12/2025 18:25

Are you saying that any deaths they reported didn’t happen?
Or just that the IDF are the only valid source of information about the war?

I am also very curious to find out what “linked to” means, and how wide a circle of “linked to” makes a person a valid target for death.
It does seem to me that if infants in incubators are validly terrorists, then everyone in Gaza is a terrorist/killable and you should just say “All Palestinians are terrorists, everything they say can be dismissed. Only the IDF are trustworthy.”

No I'm not saying no deaths happened or that the IDF are the only source of information about the war.

I've posted an article to discuss and it doesn't say either of those things.

I have no idea why you are talking about babies in incubators being terrorists because no one on this board has ever said that or that everyone in Gaza is a terrorist.

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Martymcfly24 · 11/12/2025 18:55

Twiglets1 · 11/12/2025 17:03

no it doesn't necessarily mean that, it just means that 60% are known to have affiliations with Hamas or other named terror groups.

If you read the whole article the researchers said some individuals served as military operatives although their specific organizational ties could not be confirmed.

So 60% were affiliated and some others were military operatives?
How does that work if there is no military in Gaza only Hamas?
Who were they military operatives for?

Everexpanding · 11/12/2025 18:36

Any reports from a more reliable source to back this claim up @Twiglets1 or just a report from to quote former members of Mossad “a propaganda body”

AcademyFootball · 11/12/2025 18:25

Twiglets1 · 11/12/2025 14:16

The journalists in Gaza are presented as though they are impartial and their word can be taken as trusted.

But their journalistic integrity is severely compromised if they have ties to terror groups including in some cases having dual roles as both journalist involved in propaganda and operative engaged in fighting.

Are you saying that any deaths they reported didn’t happen?
Or just that the IDF are the only valid source of information about the war?

I am also very curious to find out what “linked to” means, and how wide a circle of “linked to” makes a person a valid target for death.
It does seem to me that if infants in incubators are validly terrorists, then everyone in Gaza is a terrorist/killable and you should just say “All Palestinians are terrorists, everything they say can be dismissed. Only the IDF are trustworthy.”

Everexpanding · 11/12/2025 18:16

We really shouldn’t blame Israel for the 20,000 children they have killed, just an oops

Everexpanding · 11/12/2025 18:14

how unfair of us all

Everexpanding · 11/12/2025 18:13

All 70,000 deaths

Twiglets1 · 11/12/2025 17:58

Perfect28 · 11/12/2025 17:53

@Twiglets1the journalists know the risks. Israel know they are doing wrong or they wouldn't try and hide it.

Yes they know the risks but who would get blamed if they had got killed while the whole area was in chaos before the ceasefire? Israel would, like they get blamed for every death despite the various active terrorists in the area.

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Perfect28 · 11/12/2025 17:53

@Twiglets1the journalists know the risks. Israel know they are doing wrong or they wouldn't try and hide it.

Everexpanding · 11/12/2025 17:39

That should say. Even criticise you

Everexpanding · 11/12/2025 17:32

If former Mossad members criticise you maybe not the most reliable source, definitely not impartial

The head of ITIC, IDF colonel Reuven Ehrlich, denied in 2018 that ITIC was a "public relations shop" for the Israeli military, but acknowledged that their reports "often happen to turn out to be very good material for public relations for Israel".[3]
Several former members of the Israeli intelligence community (Mossad, Military Intelligence, the Shin Bet, and Nativ) have criticized the "symbiotic" relationship between the center and Israeli military intelligence and the center's establishment, arguing that the connection of military intelligence with a propaganda body would be detrimental to "objective" and "ideologically unbiased" analysis.[4]

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Twiglets1 · 11/12/2025 17:09

Perfect28 · 11/12/2025 16:11

So the simple solution here would be for Israel to let independent journalists in....

Got to ask yourself why they won't.

That's a separate issue and considering the uproar made about journalists getting killed even where about about 60% of them are found to be members of Hamas etc, the uproar if international journalists got killed would be massive.

Hardly a "simple solution" if Hamas and the IDF were arguing about which of them was responsible for the killing of international journalists.

Yes - Israel should be letting independent journalists in since the ceasefire, and not just in the ultra controlled way it is currently being done.

But also - this is a separate issue that the majority of local journalists have ties to terror groups.

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Twiglets1 · 11/12/2025 17:03

Martymcfly24 · 11/12/2025 16:12

I'm surprised it was only 60% considering every time a journalist was murdered it was presumed here that they were affiliated with Hamas . It means nearly half were independently trying to get news out of Gaza

no it doesn't necessarily mean that, it just means that 60% are known to have affiliations with Hamas or other named terror groups.

If you read the whole article the researchers said some individuals served as military operatives although their specific organizational ties could not be confirmed.

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Martymcfly24 · 11/12/2025 16:12

Ihatetomatoes · 11/12/2025 15:49

I doubt if many people would genuinely be surprised at this.

I'm surprised it was only 60% considering every time a journalist was murdered it was presumed here that they were affiliated with Hamas . It means nearly half were independently trying to get news out of Gaza

Perfect28 · 11/12/2025 16:11

So the simple solution here would be for Israel to let independent journalists in....

Got to ask yourself why they won't.

HellsBalls · 11/12/2025 16:03

Ihatetomatoes · 11/12/2025 15:49

I doubt if many people would genuinely be surprised at this.

Exactly. The least surprising story.

Ihatetomatoes · 11/12/2025 15:49

I doubt if many people would genuinely be surprised at this.

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