4 countries to boycott Eurovision due to Israel’s continued inclusion

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Don't be silly. It's the overlords. Check your bank account.

I'm still waiting to find out who put me in charge? Maybe the phantom?

Mmmm maybe you have more than one apprentice... we can all learn things from each other

I thought that's what it is called on this thread when people look for clarification and it seems to be frowned upon. Did I get that wrong?

Ok. That's the level we're at. Everyone can see it!

Yes, I was confused because my accounts say its you. Something dodgy going on here!

Sharon I admit I was hoping it was me! Was quite disappointed to hear I wasn't your apprentice earlier....

Why are you interrogating me?

Excellent book by Hannah Arendt, I read it years ago and have just started a reread.

"Arendt argues that Eichmann was not a monstrous fanatic but an "unremarkable bureaucrat" whose horrific actions stemmed from a "banality of evil," or a thoughtless, uncritical compliance with orders and a desire for career advancement. The book controversially suggests that the trial's focus on portraying Eichmann as a unique monster missed the more terrifying possibility that his type of evil is driven by moral emptiness and a failure to think, rather than profound malevolence"

Who are you referring to?

Haha, phantom is quite accurate, disappears and evasive when asked straight forward questions and expected to engage in sensible two way discussion but then reappears as if by magic throw out accusations and to stir up a little bit of mischief💀

As Dairy said, some people here are arguing with a phantom. I don't think anyone can help.

i don’t recognise your characterisation of the thread at all.

And here was me thinking that they were predictable because of the constant attempts to drag the thread off topic, refusal to engage in two way discussion, accusing people of twisting and attacking when they respond to vague wishy washy posts, avoidance of actually clarifying what these vague posts mean, then ends in a little bit of chortling and sniggering as even more distraction from the topic at hand.

Oh Ever, these threads are so predictable arent they? However you start them, you always end up arguing with a phantom and being furious with people for saying things they haven't said. It must be so frustrating for you.

Honestly I'd just ignore all of this derailment. Mother and baby homes, Spains history, Israel is a democracy, anything at all to get away from the actual point which is Israels current treatment of Palestinians leaving broadcasters feeling like they have no option but to boycott. I think Spain summed up the uncomfortable feeling that has been present well. I'm glad Ireland are out of it, it all just felt a bit gross last year with the ads ran by Israeli government agencies and people taking votes for Israel as some kind of approval of their disgraceful behaviour.

"The situation in Gaza, despite the ceasefire and the approval of the peace process, and the use of the contest for political goals by Israel, make it increasingly difficult to keep Eurovision a neutral cultural event,”

No you don't! Such siliness

Thanks @SharonEllis

Not aware that I go "on and on" about Israel being a "shining light" in the ME as I'm accused of being above. This is the first thread in which I have mentioned Israel being the only democracy in the ME. And that was to correct the misinformation from @thingsarelookingupfornigel that Israel supporters are "throwing terms around such as the idea that Israel is the only democracy in the ME, which it certainly is not".

Would like to know which other country they feel is a democracy in the ME. But would be equally happy to return to the topic of Eurovision.

It really helps if you read what people actually post, not what you want them to have posted.

so, for example, Who said beating a West Bank farmer to death was ok (talk about deflection)? What part of the word 'flawed' do you not understand?

Nope, try justifying Israels actions in Gaza instead, convince people they have acted as humanely as possible, that beating to death of West Bank farmers is all ok whilst the IDF look on.

No, you and other don't or rather can't so will jump on anything that takes the conversation away from this.... going on and on about what a shining light Israel is in the ME.