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How can anyone be proud to be anti Zionist

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mids2019 · 30/11/2025 15:50

https://www.meforum.org/hitler-antizionism

Hitler was an anti Zionist and instigated the most heinous genocide in world history. A genocide so systematic if caused the world to reflect on itself. Hamas are anti Zionist and produced the worst terrorist massacre per head in history. The September 11th attackers had an anti Zionist agenda. Iran is openly anti Zionist and was prepared to develop a nuclear weapon to reduce Israel to ashes.

We now have Zara Sultana, an MP in this country now claiming to be an anti Zionist? How low can we go as far as racial hatred is concerned?Do these ideologues reflect on what they are actually saying?

Hitler and the Nazis' Anti-Zionism

During the Cold War the Soviet Union, its Warsaw Pact Allies and the Western far-left spread a variety of lies about the history of Zionism, the most famous of these falsehoods being the assertion that Hitler and the Nazi regime were supporters of

https://www.meforum.org/hitler-antizionism

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Echobelly · 30/11/2025 20:12

Yeah, I'm Jewish and think it's a gross oversimplification to say 'Well Hitler was anti Zionist so if you're anti Zionist you're just like Hitler'. And pretty offensive to anti Zionist Jews.

I don't think I'm an anti zionist personally, but fervent Zionists would probably say I am... and some fervent anti Zionists would probably call me a Zionist. So it's not a straightforward thing, largely as people can't really agree on what either term means .

TheGirlWhoWantedToBeGod · 30/11/2025 20:07

I agree OP. Replace Israel with any other country and it seems absurd.

People disagree with the actions of many other countries - Russia, USA, China etc - but never feel the need to say that any of these countries shouldn’t exist in the first place.

And for those on the left who like to use the ‘anti colonialism’ argument against Israel, I’m waiting with bated breath for them to argue that Australia or New Zealand shouldn’t exist.

And yeah, it’s all just a massive coincidence that the one country anti Zionists think shouldn’t exist is the world’s one majority Jewish state. And conveniently, they’ve always got a vehemently anti-Zionist Jewish best friend / colleague / politician to invoke to prove that they’re not at all anti Semitic.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 30/11/2025 20:07

One definition of Zionism is simply support for the establishment of the state of Israel.

That is not the definition of Zionism. As a Jewish woman, I know for a fact that Zionism is much more than this sound bite.

I don’t think you’re posting in good faith.

You are deliberately conflating anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism.

You are brazenly comparing an MP to Adolf Hitler.
That is as problematic as Danny Dannon calling Francesca Albanese a witch at the UN.

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mids2019 · 30/11/2025 19:57

One definition of Zionism is simply support for the establishment of the state of Israel. So we have a British MP openly stating she wants the eradication of another state, I don't see the ambiguity in thus personally. It's simply scary seeing someone who wishes to lead a political party in this country to hold such anti semitic views and so openly. We as a country are not anti Israel or anti Jew and we should brave enough to shout down those that hold such views. As people quite rightly call out Tomy Robisnson so we should with Zara.

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thingsarelookingupfornigel · 30/11/2025 19:27

I think you might be spoiling for a fight.

GinkoRebelFoxes · 30/11/2025 18:43

Anti-Zionist isn’t the same as Anti-Jewish, though. Lots of Jewish people are not Zionists. Lots of Zionists don’t support the Israeli government’s recent actions. There are shades of opinions that are more subtle than “Hitler was anti-Zionist, so if you agree with anti-Zionism you are the same as Hitler.”

BeNoisyFish · 30/11/2025 18:30

I think it's lack of education and anti semitism. It's possible to support Israel's right to exist while also criticising the government's actions.

singmoon · 30/11/2025 18:28

I believe it is fine to be anti Zionist. Lots of Jewish people are. Zionism has been a destructive and now genocidal force. I support Palestinians in their current struggle. I am not anti semitic in the slightest.

Ihatetomatoes · 30/11/2025 18:08

I agree, open hatred. Say you don't agree with the war, but anti Israel is pure hatred.

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