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Healthcare workers still detained in Israeli prisons

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Everexpanding · 25/11/2025 18:37

While some were released in the ceasefire, Israel still holds 80 Palestinian medical workers without charge. Their families are demanding their freedom.

https://www.972mag.com/gazan-doctors-israeli-prisons/

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PevenseygirlQQ · 26/11/2025 14:54

TooTightDiamondShoesDoingMyHeadIn · 26/11/2025 13:30

He doesn’t have to be charged to be detained as either a combatant or security threat in an armed conflict which certainly applies as he is allegedly a senior Hamas operative.

https://www.icrc.org/sites/default/files/external/doc/en/assets/files/other/irrc_858_pejic.pdf

So if its just alleged and they have no proof then he should be set free

TooTightDiamondShoesDoingMyHeadIn · 26/11/2025 14:49

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 26/11/2025 13:15

Basically it’s an Israeli propaganda site. No one likes propaganda being bandied about regarding this conflict do they? Or do they?

Can you direct me to any propaganda on their website? Challenging propaganda is not the same as creating it. How is that so hard to understand?

How many Palestinian propaganda sites are there funded by Qatar and Iran?

TooTightDiamondShoesDoingMyHeadIn · 26/11/2025 14:43

reem123 · 26/11/2025 13:57

I wouldn’t believe the BBC or guardian. I go by what my contacts in Gaza tell me who I work with on the basis of trust and what I have witnessed myself from this kind, selfless man. I certainly don’t believe anything that comes out of the odd/governments mouths. They have been proven time and time again to lie.

Do your contacts in Gaza tell you that Hamas are kind and selfless too?

TooTightDiamondShoesDoingMyHeadIn · 26/11/2025 14:41

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 26/11/2025 13:39

If people believe Honest Reporting and use it to justify their outlandish claims, then quite frankly they’ll believe any old nonsense.

What outlandish claims?

Do you personally know the Colonel?

Think it’s completely irrelevant 240 terrorists and were captured hiding in his hospital together with arms and munitions?

He was the Director of the hospital btw.

Maybe they weren’t terrorists either and the munitions were just toys collected for the children?

After all we all know Israel are total liars and there aren’t any terrorists in Gaza. Just ‘poor, innocent, oppressed’ civilians and Oct 7th was nowt but a little blip when a few went too far. Right?

reem123 · 26/11/2025 13:57

surreygirly · 26/11/2025 13:36

Hoe do you know he is not in Hamas
Did the bbc or Guardian tell you

I wouldn’t believe the BBC or guardian. I go by what my contacts in Gaza tell me who I work with on the basis of trust and what I have witnessed myself from this kind, selfless man. I certainly don’t believe anything that comes out of the odd/governments mouths. They have been proven time and time again to lie.

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 26/11/2025 13:39

If people believe Honest Reporting and use it to justify their outlandish claims, then quite frankly they’ll believe any old nonsense.

surreygirly · 26/11/2025 13:36

reem123 · 26/11/2025 13:22

He is not a Hamas colonel at all. This is their excuse with all the journalists that they kill and anyone who supports the Palestinian cause for freedom. They are notorious for lying, western workers killed in Gaza for decades have been labelled Hamas supporters and anyone against the occupation is anti Semitic, it’s absolutely ridiculous. A family that I have supported for the past two years were next door neighbours with Dr Safiya and I have had the pleasure of dealing with him when trying to help families in Jabalia before his illegal incarceration. The man is a hero for his people, he is a gentlemen. Even having his own son killed he didn’t stop trying to help as many as he could. I long for the day when I know he is released.

Hoe do you know he is not in Hamas
Did the bbc or Guardian tell you

surreygirly · 26/11/2025 13:36

TooTightDiamondShoesDoingMyHeadIn · 26/11/2025 09:52

Safiya the Hamas Colonel you mean?

https://honestreporting.com/media-favor-hamas-narrative-in-coverage-of-gaza-hospital-raid/

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hkcngjqljl#

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/who-issues-stiff-rebuke-on-israeli-takeover-of-kamal-adwan-hospital-israel-calls-out-hamas-torture-of-former-hostages/

You think you have better intel than Israel about what he is? Do you think he must be innocent because he’s Palestinian and a doctor?

It’s shocking that after so long, people still don’t understand that Gaza is run by Islamic extremist terrorists and the population has had 20 years of brainwashing in Hamas ideology. No one in any position of power in Gaza is not going to be part of Hamas.

Agree

TooTightDiamondShoesDoingMyHeadIn · 26/11/2025 13:30

PevenseygirlQQ · 26/11/2025 12:09

But guilty of what? What has he actually be charged with to be detained? Genuinely asking as I am not sure

He doesn’t have to be charged to be detained as either a combatant or security threat in an armed conflict which certainly applies as he is allegedly a senior Hamas operative.

https://www.icrc.org/sites/default/files/external/doc/en/assets/files/other/irrc_858_pejic.pdf

https://www.icrc.org/sites/default/files/external/doc/en/assets/files/other/irrc_858_pejic.pdf

reem123 · 26/11/2025 13:22

TooTightDiamondShoesDoingMyHeadIn · 26/11/2025 09:52

Safiya the Hamas Colonel you mean?

https://honestreporting.com/media-favor-hamas-narrative-in-coverage-of-gaza-hospital-raid/

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hkcngjqljl#

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/who-issues-stiff-rebuke-on-israeli-takeover-of-kamal-adwan-hospital-israel-calls-out-hamas-torture-of-former-hostages/

You think you have better intel than Israel about what he is? Do you think he must be innocent because he’s Palestinian and a doctor?

It’s shocking that after so long, people still don’t understand that Gaza is run by Islamic extremist terrorists and the population has had 20 years of brainwashing in Hamas ideology. No one in any position of power in Gaza is not going to be part of Hamas.

He is not a Hamas colonel at all. This is their excuse with all the journalists that they kill and anyone who supports the Palestinian cause for freedom. They are notorious for lying, western workers killed in Gaza for decades have been labelled Hamas supporters and anyone against the occupation is anti Semitic, it’s absolutely ridiculous. A family that I have supported for the past two years were next door neighbours with Dr Safiya and I have had the pleasure of dealing with him when trying to help families in Jabalia before his illegal incarceration. The man is a hero for his people, he is a gentlemen. Even having his own son killed he didn’t stop trying to help as many as he could. I long for the day when I know he is released.

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 26/11/2025 13:15

Basically it’s an Israeli propaganda site. No one likes propaganda being bandied about regarding this conflict do they? Or do they?

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 26/11/2025 13:09

HonestReporting is not a news organization, and therefore does not seek to follow journalistic ethics and standards.[19]
The American Journalism Review described the organisation as a "pro-Israeli pressure group".[31]
Think I’d still believe the EU far more than anything that comes out of Honest Reporting.
HonestReporting - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HonestReporting#cite_note-:1-19

HonestReporting - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HonestReporting#cite_note-:1-19

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 26/11/2025 13:07

In review, HonestReporting reports on the news where they perceive that Israel was portrayed unfairly. Many stories are negative toward Palestine and attempt to portray Israel as a victim.

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 26/11/2025 13:05

HonestReporting or Honest Reporting is an Israeli media advocacy group. A pro-Israel media watchdog, it describes its mission as "combat[ting] ideological prejudice in journalism and the media, as it impacts Israel".

TooTightDiamondShoesDoingMyHeadIn · 26/11/2025 12:59

Everexpanding · 26/11/2025 10:14

Better sources please, as has been pointed out numerous times “honest reporting” is a misnomer

But as Hoffman (their executive director) told AP, Honest Reporting doesn’t “claim to be a news organization,” and thus, it seems, the traditional journalistic standards of asking for comment before publication does not apply to them. Honest Reporting is a right-wing, hasbara organization with a clear agenda, and should be treated as such by all who interact with it.

https://www.laconverse.com/en/articles/enquete---des-journalistes-denoncent-les-pressions-du-groupe-pro-israelien-honest-reporting-canada

No they are not a news organisation. They challenge fake news that has already been published. They make that clear as you have stated.

What is your issue with that? Do you not agree that inaccuracies in the media should challenged and corrected?

Surely facts matter. Or do they not matter if they don’t suit your agenda?

It’s actually terrible it’s needed but it certainly is if you bother to read the content of their website.

Can you point out anything they have not been honest about? You obviously know a bit about them.

PevenseygirlQQ · 26/11/2025 12:09

dairydebris · 26/11/2025 10:46

I agree and said as much in my first post.

You dont know he's innocent though. You just think he probably is because you dislike Israel, and you know Israel has form for administrative detention and abuse. Fair enough.

The poster above thinks he's probably guilty, because they like Israel, and they hate Hamas, and they know Hamas was infiltrated through all levels of Gazan society, and because his insta praised 7 October. Again. Fair enough.

None of us know.

This is just another opportunity for you to vent your spleen.

I'll leave you to it now.

But guilty of what? What has he actually be charged with to be detained? Genuinely asking as I am not sure

Everexpanding · 26/11/2025 11:06

I don’t dislike Israel, i dislike the actions of the Israeli government. I think Israel as all states who breach human rights and international law need to be held to account. I do not like the actions Israel has taken to silence warranted criticism such as the targetting of UN rapporteurs and IcJ judges

https://www.heise.de/en/news/How-a-French-judge-was-digitally-cut-off-by-the-USA-11087561.html

let alone it’s efforts to silence journalists and human rights ngos

How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

Nicolas Guillou has been sanctioned by the USA as a judge of the International Criminal Court. He notices the effects primarily in the digital realm.

https://www.heise.de/en/news/How-a-French-judge-was-digitally-cut-off-by-the-USA-11087561.html

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dairydebris · 26/11/2025 10:46

Everexpanding · 26/11/2025 10:39

we know people should not be beaten and denied medical care and held without charge

I agree and said as much in my first post.

You dont know he's innocent though. You just think he probably is because you dislike Israel, and you know Israel has form for administrative detention and abuse. Fair enough.

The poster above thinks he's probably guilty, because they like Israel, and they hate Hamas, and they know Hamas was infiltrated through all levels of Gazan society, and because his insta praised 7 October. Again. Fair enough.

None of us know.

This is just another opportunity for you to vent your spleen.

I'll leave you to it now.

Everexpanding · 26/11/2025 10:39

we know people should not be beaten and denied medical care and held without charge

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dairydebris · 26/11/2025 10:37

Everexpanding · 26/11/2025 10:35

No reply what a surprise

Because we dont know.
We dont have access to Israeli intelligence and neither do you. We are only guessing according to our own prejudices.

We dont know.

Everexpanding · 26/11/2025 10:35

Everexpanding · 26/11/2025 10:04

If Israel has actual intel why has he been detained since Dec 2024 without charge and why has he been interrogated and beaten??

No reply what a surprise

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dairydebris · 26/11/2025 10:25

Everexpanding · 26/11/2025 09:03

The last image of him will forever stay in my mind

I found this image one of the most powerful of the war too.

Israel says he's guilty.
You say he's innocent.

None of us here on the forum actually know the truth do we? And Israel is under no obligation to share any intelligence with us, is she?

He should be charged and tried just like anyone accused of a crime. He shouldn't be held indefinitely without being charged. He certainly shouldn't have come to physical harm while in detention. Hopefully we can all agree on that.

You don't know he's innocent any more than we know he's guilty though. I think we should all remember that.

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Everexpanding · 26/11/2025 10:14

Better sources please, as has been pointed out numerous times “honest reporting” is a misnomer

But as Hoffman (their executive director) told AP, Honest Reporting doesn’t “claim to be a news organization,” and thus, it seems, the traditional journalistic standards of asking for comment before publication does not apply to them. Honest Reporting is a right-wing, hasbara organization with a clear agenda, and should be treated as such by all who interact with it.

https://www.laconverse.com/en/articles/enquete---des-journalistes-denoncent-les-pressions-du-groupe-pro-israelien-honest-reporting-canada

HonestReporting Hosts the Hasby Awards | HonestReporting

HonestReporting was proud to have hosted the Hasby Awards on our rooftop in the heart of Jerusalem honoring some of Israel's greatest activists.

https://honestreporting.com/honestreporting-hosts-the-hasby-awards/

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Everexpanding · 26/11/2025 10:04

If Israel has actual intel why has he been detained since Dec 2024 without charge and why has he been interrogated and beaten??

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