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Israel calling Francesca Albanese a witch!?

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Everexpanding · 29/10/2025 16:17

I understand anti semite was losing its power to silence but now Israel is calling Francesca Albanese a witch??? At a meeting of the UN?
Has the Israeli government lost it’s mind

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 19:34

Also don’t like seeing women called witches in this day and age

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 19:28

I came on here when recuperating, confined to bed and bored. I was shocked by the amount of propaganda and blatant misinformation I saw being posted on here. I did not expect to see posts on this forum excusing carpet bombing civilians, denying war crimes and justifying the deaths of
20, 000 children as just an oops collateral damage. I find the dehumanisation of Palestinians on threads on this site horrifying.
why do you post @dairydebris

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dairydebris · 03/11/2025 18:53

Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 18:05

Do you call people “hysterical “ in real life? Does that promote “debate “ I actually don’t think excessive civilian deaths should be up for “ debate” some things can not be justified

You're literally arguing with a phantom.
You've got some strange image in your mind of who you think people who sympathize with Israel are, and this image is so enraging to you that you can't seem to listen to what people are actually saying.
You respond to questions with different, unrelated questions, which makes a coherent conversation impossible.

What do you actually get from posting on here? You don't seem to want to engage, you just seem to want to accuse and demonize.

What do you hope to achieve?

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 18:05

Do you call people “hysterical “ in real life? Does that promote “debate “ I actually don’t think excessive civilian deaths should be up for “ debate” some things can not be justified

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dairydebris · 03/11/2025 17:37

Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 17:25

Hyperbole much @Twiglets1 along with a dose of misogyny “hysterical”

Is this how you speak to people in real life @Everexpanding?

Do you find it helps you get your point across effectively?

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 17:34

Good night @Twiglets1

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Twiglets1 · 03/11/2025 17:32

Have a good evening @Everexpanding

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 17:26

the wording of the thread is not incorrect as a number of posters have repeatedly and patiently explained to you, but keep denying reality why break a habit

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 17:25

Hyperbole much @Twiglets1 along with a dose of misogyny “hysterical”

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Twiglets1 · 03/11/2025 17:23

Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 17:18

Have you apologised for baselessly saying I was incorrect, no

You were incorrect in the way you worded your thread so no I won't be apologising. I get it - you hate Israel - but I suppose you will just deny that too like you deny you insulted me when everyone can see it.

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 17:18

Have you apologised for baselessly saying I was incorrect, no

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 17:17

So aligned with Israel uncanny

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Twiglets1 · 03/11/2025 17:16

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Well done - another insult.

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Twiglets1 · 03/11/2025 17:03

Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 16:56

Maybe read something that’s not Israeli propaganda

www.972mag.com/trump-israel-plan-divide-gaza/

Assuming this is aimed at me, you say you have never insulted me but everyone can see you doing so - calling me an "apologist", accusing me of being "happy" about civilian deaths, and suggesting all I read is Israeli propaganda.

Funnily enough, that's not how people normally talk to others when their intention is not to insult them.

You seem to be getting a bit hysterical so no - it shouldn't come as a "surprise" when people decide they have had enough of talking to you.

If you don't want people to disengage - try debating politely.

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 16:56

Maybe read something that’s not Israeli propaganda

www.972mag.com/trump-israel-plan-divide-gaza/

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 16:46

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 16:38

what a surprise, I have never personally insulted you @Twiglets1 bar calling you out for justifying civilian deaths and trying to undermine and deflect valid criticism of the Israeli government

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Twiglets1 · 03/11/2025 16:13

Not interested in debating further with someone who slings personal insults around as freely as you do @Everexpanding & puts words into people's mouths like saying I'm "happy" with civilian deaths.

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 15:59

Please feel free to reply to the other points @Twiglets1
so you are happy with 83% of the death toll being civilians because of the possible presence of Hamas, I have seen you use this argument have you ever thought about what it actually means in real terms to real humans, men, women and children?
Do you agree with the dropping of 2000lb bombs on civilians in tents and resulting carnage because possibly Hamas?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21/revealed-israeli-militarys-own-data-indicates-civilian-death-rate-of-83-in-gaza-war

Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war

Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21/revealed-israeli-militarys-own-data-indicates-civilian-death-rate-of-83-in-gaza-war

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Twiglets1 · 03/11/2025 15:35

Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 12:19

So if you say you and those you call “we” are sympathetic to Palestinian civilians why are you not critical of the very high civilian death toll in Gaza,? why do you not recognise the oppression of Palestinian civilians by the Israeli state? Why are all valid criticisms of the Israeli state pertaining its treatment of Palestinians denied or undermined? Illegal detention, the murder of children by snipers, the torture of prisoners as documented by multiple reputable NGO’s including Israeli ones? The blatant destruction of all the infrastructure needed to support civilian life in Gaza in contravention of International law is dismissed with “but Hamas” repeatedly.

I am not critical of the high civilian death toll in Gaza because I understand that civilians do get killed in wars and more so when the "soldiers" (if Hamas can even be called that as I think of them more as terrorists) hide amongst the civilian population and deliberately build tunnels/hide weapons etc in densely populated areas such as around hospitals. For the record I'm sympathetic to all civilians caught up in every war around the world now & historically, but that doesn't mean I think there should never ever be wars.

Many of the things you mention I haven't commented on so you cannot possibly know my attitude to them. I guess you are making assumptions but some are false. Better to stick to the actual topics being discussed so you know where I stand.

As @SharonEllis pointed out, you seem to be arguing with an imaginary poster so I will leave you to that.

hairyhairyquitecontrary · 03/11/2025 14:08

Pro Israel supporters tend to stick to facts.

What? Like the reuters camera which was definitely a Hamas surveillance camera because the IDF said so? And the murdered journalists who were definitely Hamas militants? Those “facts” do you mean?

SharonEllis · 03/11/2025 13:43

Well your post certainly isn't accurate re @Twiglets1

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Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 13:39

Was directed to @Twiglets1 i thought I had quoted her in the post, an error on my part

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SharonEllis · 03/11/2025 13:12

Everexpanding · 03/11/2025 12:19

So if you say you and those you call “we” are sympathetic to Palestinian civilians why are you not critical of the very high civilian death toll in Gaza,? why do you not recognise the oppression of Palestinian civilians by the Israeli state? Why are all valid criticisms of the Israeli state pertaining its treatment of Palestinians denied or undermined? Illegal detention, the murder of children by snipers, the torture of prisoners as documented by multiple reputable NGO’s including Israeli ones? The blatant destruction of all the infrastructure needed to support civilian life in Gaza in contravention of International law is dismissed with “but Hamas” repeatedly.

I don't who you're speaking to but it would be hard to find someone on this board that all your points are applicable to so we can only assume you are arguing with an imaginary poster.