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Thousands of bodies seen from space pictures

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Ihatetomatoes · 29/10/2025 10:03

Very disturbing

"BODIES AND BLOOD Piles of bodies and rivers of blood can be seen from space after thousands massacred in brutal Sudan killings
Experts say over 2,000 civilians were killed during the Rapid Support Forces’ seizure of El Fasher"

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Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 09:54

I have just started a new thread on main board to raise awareness as suggested. It may get reported and moved though?

@someoneSomewhere

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Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 09:49

SomeoneSomewheree · 30/10/2025 09:43

I do think it would be good to move this thread or even have another one like this on one of the main boards. Some posters have posted some useful links to help understand the history of the conflict better which would have a wider reach elsewhere. I have been trying to read each one posted on here.

I posted it here because Sudan is now considered part of the Middle East.

The Middle East and North Africa (MENA), also referred to as West Asia and North Africa (WANA) or South West Asia and North Africa (SWANA), is a geographic region which comprises the Middle East (also called West Asia) and North Africa together.

Therefore, I posted here. Also, I noted many on the main boards chose MN for light relief and complain when stories such of this are posted on main boards and moved.

I could start a new one there to see, but leave this here for the people who are interested since its an ongoing conflict in the middle east.

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MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 09:45

Good points, @SomeoneSomewheree . I read the BBC news website background information, which was really useful, but some of these links have been very informative, thanks to those posters.

Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 09:44

HarlequinHare · 30/10/2025 09:29

Who are you agreeing with here? You're the only one who had posted before this post.

There was a post before this and I agreed with it. It's no longer there. I believe that when someone completely deletes their account posts go since several years ago I left completely and when I returned my posts weren't showing. Please check with MN, I'm really not going mad talking to myself. However, reading these awful stories of mass killing doesn't help.

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SomeoneSomewheree · 30/10/2025 09:43

I do think it would be good to move this thread or even have another one like this on one of the main boards. Some posters have posted some useful links to help understand the history of the conflict better which would have a wider reach elsewhere. I have been trying to read each one posted on here.

HarlequinHare · 30/10/2025 09:29

Ihatetomatoes · 29/10/2025 10:07

I agree, its awful, these militant group only care about power

Who are you agreeing with here? You're the only one who had posted before this post.

Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 09:17

MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 09:12

Plus - the deliberate and inhumane nature of it. These aren't accidental casualties of war.
I don't know how the UN categorise these things, but surely war crimes are involved here?

Most definitely war crimes. The UN have called it an "indiscriminate massacre" .

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Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 09:16

The UN secretary general's office condemn "indiscriminate attacks' in El Fasher.

I am following this story more closely than ever. The stories coming out of El Fasher from survivors are awful. The dead are literally everywhere along the roads out. The Rapid Support Forces have control, to do so they didn't need to rape and torture though.

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MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 09:12

Plus - the deliberate and inhumane nature of it. These aren't accidental casualties of war.
I don't know how the UN categorise these things, but surely war crimes are involved here?

Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 09:07

MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 08:53

I think the scale of it is absolutely shocking.

I agree.

I think IMO that the US in particular has turned inwards and mainly ignores these type of massacre now. Many reasons but past mistakes and heavy criticism for getting involved means they don't bother now. So the people are left to it. Which means huge numbers of innocent people are wiped out.

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Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 09:02

Since Trump was elected there is a lack.of interest in supporting some countries.

"And what does it look like from Sudan, which is a country that the United States actually used to be interested in and cared a lot about? You know, Darfur was a cause that churches and synagogues in the United States used to follow and donate to and think about. There've been a lot of American diplomats - American charities have worked in Sudan. You know, what does the withdrawal of the United States look like from there?"

So now the killing can go on and on without the most powerful country in the world being interested. So no one cares, no one stops it. When people talk of interference from 'the West' then lack of interference or interest can be worse.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/06/nx-s1-5493499/journalist-says-greed-nihilism-and-transnationalism-are-fueling-sudans-conflict

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MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 08:53

MushMonster · 30/10/2025 06:50

I know.
And UK is the UN penholder for this conflict.
But is anyone putting pressure on UAE or any other country that is supplying the weapons? Or putting pressure on these horror to stop? I have not spotted much, at all.
When the curtain fully falls on this we may find that these two armies killed more people than Stalin did! Plus the displaced, raped, injured, starved and traumatised.

I think the scale of it is absolutely shocking.

Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 08:50

BluntPlumHam · 29/10/2025 23:23

There is a really good article by young Sudanese journalists who have traced the conflict right back to 90s. It’s concise enough to digest easily but leaves you with a deeper understanding of it. If I find it I will
post it here.

https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/opinion/first-person/2024/02/20/sudan-war-sudanese-journalist-describes-horror-she-cannot-cover

Is it this journalist?

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MushMonster · 30/10/2025 06:54

Sudan was not considered part of the Middle East a while back ( when I was in school), but it is consider so by some many classifications these days. Search MENA.
This for a poster that was asking upthread.

MushMonster · 30/10/2025 06:50

Ihatetomatoes · 29/10/2025 22:39

The UAE seem to be the biggest supplier of weapons for them.

I know.
And UK is the UN penholder for this conflict.
But is anyone putting pressure on UAE or any other country that is supplying the weapons? Or putting pressure on these horror to stop? I have not spotted much, at all.
When the curtain fully falls on this we may find that these two armies killed more people than Stalin did! Plus the displaced, raped, injured, starved and traumatised.

HeavenInMyHeart · 30/10/2025 06:30

Everexpanding · 29/10/2025 11:02

@Ihatetomatoes can I ask what is your motivation for posting about Sudan on CITME, Sudan is not in the Middle East?

The situation is appalling and hopefully those responsible will face justice as all those who carry out war crimes should

Because the pro-Israeli posters on this site seem to think that these conflicts are just things they can use to score points.

MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 06:29

Thanks to everyone for the additional information.

SomeWomanSomewhere · 30/10/2025 06:28

Utterly horrific. Boycott the UAE and protest the UK government selling them weapons, please.

And, yes, I do think we have to stop selling weapons to murderous regimes, whether they be located in Abu Dhabi, Tel Aviv or elsewhere. No "but the economy!". I don't want my potholes fixed with blood money!

BluntPlumHam · 29/10/2025 23:23

There is a really good article by young Sudanese journalists who have traced the conflict right back to 90s. It’s concise enough to digest easily but leaves you with a deeper understanding of it. If I find it I will
post it here.

Ihatetomatoes · 29/10/2025 23:18

dreamingbohemian · 29/10/2025 23:06

Yes

You think people are ignoring Sudan? A couple years ago 800,000 people died in Tigray and most people have never heard of it

I would like to see a tourism boycott of the UAE, they are absolutely fuelling this war

It seems lots of mass killing is ignored. What sick/evil/power hungry/insert other words mainly men do to others in the world is just ...... frankly no words.

Yes, most people would not have heard of Tigray and the huge slaughter. Maybe, these are just too awful and unthinkable.

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Ihatetomatoes · 29/10/2025 23:11

dreamingbohemian · 29/10/2025 23:06

Yes

You think people are ignoring Sudan? A couple years ago 800,000 people died in Tigray and most people have never heard of it

I would like to see a tourism boycott of the UAE, they are absolutely fuelling this war

I agree. Without the weapons from UAE the killing would be greatly reduced.

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Everexpanding · 29/10/2025 23:07

Ihatetomatoes · 29/10/2025 22:55

My motivation is that hundreds of thousands of innocents are being slaughtered with around 2500 in just a couple of days, its appalling, it doesn't make the news.

By the way UAE are funding weapons so Arabs heavily involved. Seems UK weapons to UAE end up there. That needs stopping.

I feel this mass killing of innocents deserves a thread.

I have answered your question, whats your motivation for moaning about this thread? It's appalling slaughter of innocents, it's possible to have empathy and sorrow for what happens in many countries at the same time. If it doesn't interest you or bother you, please scroll on by.

I did not moan about your thread I simply asked what your motivation was in posting regarding Sudan which is in Africa on the Conflict in the Middle East thread, the conflict in Sudan is both appalling and worthy of attention you would probably get more traffic on the main board

dreamingbohemian · 29/10/2025 23:06

EmeraldShamrock000 · 29/10/2025 22:22

War, destruction, deaths in Africa have never been a media priority.
Rwanda's genocide was rarely mentioned in the media.
It's a lot more likely to be racism rather than "no jews, no news".

Yes

You think people are ignoring Sudan? A couple years ago 800,000 people died in Tigray and most people have never heard of it

I would like to see a tourism boycott of the UAE, they are absolutely fuelling this war

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