Please or to access all these features

Conflict in the Middle East

How will carrying out "powerful strikes " on Gaza help to get the bodies back?

185 replies

mouthpipette · 28/10/2025 17:08

BN has resumed the attack on Gaza, surely finding bodies is easier when you are not being bombed, shelled, shot at and starved.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
10
Twiglets1 · 29/10/2025 07:45

Irenesortof · 29/10/2025 07:36

Killing other people’s children because you haven’t got your own dead relative’s body back? Justified because
Hamas is evil? Don’t think so.

Hamas have blatantly failed to keep to the ceasefire agreement and that is what is putting Palestinians in Gaza more at risk than anything.

And your tone is disrespectful to the relatives of the dead hostage you refer to. It isn't their fault Hamas decided to play silly games with the remains, or that Netanyahu decided to order a retaliation.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 29/10/2025 07:41

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Hamas is the cancer.

Irenesortof · 29/10/2025 07:36

Killing other people’s children because you haven’t got your own dead relative’s body back? Justified because
Hamas is evil? Don’t think so.

Cassavaflower · 29/10/2025 07:00

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

JustSomeRandomOnTheInternet · 29/10/2025 01:39

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Gaza could hardly be described as a ‘ghetto’ not matter how delusional you have to be to describe it as such.

Where is Egypt’s culpability in this false allegration?

It was quite a jewel of the Mediterranean with luxury mansions, car showrooms, restaurants and beautiful beaches. Many people lived in poverty but that was down to their corrupt government (and yes they voted in their own government) who siphoned billions of $ of aid to their personal wealth.

I don’t believe Palestinians in Gaza have been used as forced labour for Israel and Gaza isn’t even in Israel so why would they have the same rights as Israel citizens?

Perhaps the decades of, and commitment to, terrorism in the cause of the annihilation of Israel has caused their troubles?

Did Jews in Europe commit terrorist attacks before they were rounded up into ghettos?

What a disgusting Holocaust Inversion trope.

JustSomeRandomOnTheInternet · 29/10/2025 01:15

Naanspiration · 28/10/2025 23:13

Israel has controlled Gaza's borders, airspace, maritime space, population, buffer zone for decades. Since 1988 I believe.

Israel has maintained a blockade around Gaza since 2005 that controls all movement of people and goods in and out.

The blockade is widely recognised as a form of collective punishment - a war crime.

This is before we even talk about the Israeli settlements, settler violence, restrictions on freedom of movement; the confiscation of land; demolition of homes and infrastructure; arbitrary detention, torture and inhumane treatment.

The list goes on.

You say Hamas is a Government? Of which country? Is Gaza a country?

Does it have autonomy? No it's doesn't it's an excessively controlled patch of land dominated by Israel.

What do I think should happen? I'm in agreement with the majority (157 out of 193) of United Nations members that recognise Palestine as a sovereign state.

This would mean Israel would have no legitimate authority to maintain it's control of Gaza and the West Bank.

The international community would then have to step in to rebuild what Israel has tried to destroy.

Edited

Why has all that happened though?

You seem to be missing out a big piece of the story there, like why was the PLO formed while Gaza and the West Bank was illegally occupied by Egypt and Jordan. Just that kind of gives the game away. Have you read the original PLO Charter?

Why was there a war in 1948 and 1967?

Why wasn’t a Palestinian State declared between 1948 and 1967?

How did Israel come to occupy Gaza and the West Bank and what sovereign State did it ‘steal’ them from?

Why was a blockade put in place by Egypt in 2007?

Your opinion can’t be obfuscated by facts I’m afraid.

So you want Hamas to continue governing Gaza as a Sovereign State because they show no signs (see the mass executions) of giving way to a governing party who actually want to rule in the best interests of Palestinians, eg, not wanting them to be killed as human sacrifices for their cause of the annihilation of Israel at the very least.

Who in the International Community will rebuild Gaza while Hamas is still in control?

Naanspiration · 29/10/2025 00:43

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 28/10/2025 22:16

And Hamas is good for the Palestinians is it.
They are not are they.

Hamas has been allowed to grow in power in Gaza by funding arranged by Israel.

So no, Hamas is not good for Palestinians - that's why Israel ensured it stayed in power.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/11/middleeast/qatar-hamas-funds-israel-backing-intl

Many Israeli's directly blame this funding for the Hamas attacks on October 7th.

Qatar sent millions to Gaza for years – with Israel’s backing. Here’s what we know about the controversial deal | CNN

Qatar has come under fire by Israeli officials, American politicians and media outlets for sending hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to Gaza, which is governed by the Palestinian militant group. But all that happened with Israel’s blessing.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/11/middleeast/qatar-hamas-funds-israel-backing-intl

Naanspiration · 29/10/2025 00:31

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Naanspiration · 28/10/2025 23:13

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 28/10/2025 22:59

Hamas has governed the Gaza strip since its takeover of the territory from a rival Palestinian authority in June 2007.
What do you think should happen then.

Israel has controlled Gaza's borders, airspace, maritime space, population, buffer zone for decades. Since 1988 I believe.

Israel has maintained a blockade around Gaza since 2005 that controls all movement of people and goods in and out.

The blockade is widely recognised as a form of collective punishment - a war crime.

This is before we even talk about the Israeli settlements, settler violence, restrictions on freedom of movement; the confiscation of land; demolition of homes and infrastructure; arbitrary detention, torture and inhumane treatment.

The list goes on.

You say Hamas is a Government? Of which country? Is Gaza a country?

Does it have autonomy? No it's doesn't it's an excessively controlled patch of land dominated by Israel.

What do I think should happen? I'm in agreement with the majority (157 out of 193) of United Nations members that recognise Palestine as a sovereign state.

This would mean Israel would have no legitimate authority to maintain it's control of Gaza and the West Bank.

The international community would then have to step in to rebuild what Israel has tried to destroy.

vitalityvix · 28/10/2025 23:11

Hamas are wankers, the Israeli government are wankers, more civilians dead, more “look what you made me do!”

Utterly despicable.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 28/10/2025 22:59

Naanspiration · 28/10/2025 22:37

Hamas doesn't run Gaza, and hasn't for decades.

Who controls the borders?

Who controls Gaza's air space and maritime space?

Who controls the Palestinian "population registry"?

Israel dominates Gaza, why did you not know this?

Hamas has governed the Gaza strip since its takeover of the territory from a rival Palestinian authority in June 2007.
What do you think should happen then.

Martymcfly24 · 28/10/2025 22:54

11 dead so far from strikes including one on a civilian vehicle and another on a family home.

Naanspiration · 28/10/2025 22:37

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 28/10/2025 22:14

Well Hamas have been running things for what is it over 20 years so now what.
What do you think should happen.

Hamas doesn't run Gaza, and hasn't for decades.

Who controls the borders?

Who controls Gaza's air space and maritime space?

Who controls the Palestinian "population registry"?

Israel dominates Gaza, why did you not know this?

GeneralPeter · 28/10/2025 22:27

Naanspiration · 28/10/2025 22:24

Not according to Hitler.

You mean he let Jewish people live in Germany?

Does Israel allow Palestinians to live in Israel?

Yes, about 2.4 million of them.

Naanspiration · 28/10/2025 22:24

GeneralPeter · 28/10/2025 22:16

You don’t think Jewish Germans were proper Germans?

Not according to Hitler.

You mean he let Jewish people live in Germany?

Does Israel allow Palestinians to live in Israel?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 28/10/2025 22:16

MissyB1 · 28/10/2025 22:11

I think we all know the biggest threat to Palestinians is being killed by Israel.

And Hamas is good for the Palestinians is it.
They are not are they.

GeneralPeter · 28/10/2025 22:16

Naanspiration · 28/10/2025 21:43

"It isn't actually BN's job to protect Palestinian life. Its Hamas'. BN job is to protect Israeli life."

Intriguing viewpoint.

So, to follow on from your logic, was it Hitlers job to protect Germans and Jewish lives were the responsibility of someone else?

Is there some legal framework that supports your view? Can Keir Starmer disregard the safety and human rights of non-UK citizens?

Maybe in Ireland or with asylum seekers?

He could just bomb the fuck out of them?

You don’t think Jewish Germans were proper Germans?

BluntPlumHam · 28/10/2025 22:15

Israel isn’t interested in peace or even retrieving the bodies. They violated the ceasefire countless times. Their genocidal intent has been well documented, they won’t stop till every man, woman, child is dead or gone from Gaza. I mean they’ve expressed this countless times in the last two years and that is how the state was created to begin with by killing, cleansing and occupying so I’m not sure why anyone is shocked at what they’re doing.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 28/10/2025 22:14

Eyesopenwideawake · 28/10/2025 22:10

Don't be naive.

Hamas is not the reason Netanyahu and his cronies are determined to flatten Gaza and eradicate or permanently displace the population. It never was.

Well Hamas have been running things for what is it over 20 years so now what.
What do you think should happen.

MissyB1 · 28/10/2025 22:11

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 28/10/2025 22:08

Well Hamas did start killing Palestinians the minute Israel removed itself.
Surely you can see that Hamas is not only a threat to Israel but to Palestinians as well.

I think we all know the biggest threat to Palestinians is being killed by Israel.

Eyesopenwideawake · 28/10/2025 22:10

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 28/10/2025 22:05

If Hamas were got rid of completely then things could get moving.Until then nothing will change.

Don't be naive.

Hamas is not the reason Netanyahu and his cronies are determined to flatten Gaza and eradicate or permanently displace the population. It never was.

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2025 22:09

It won’t. Maybe keep him out of jail a little longer, though?

Sickening.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 28/10/2025 22:08

MissyB1 · 28/10/2025 21:47

Who knew that in order to say Israel is absolutely wrong to start bombing innocent civilians again, we must first have a big rant about Hamas and how they are always responsible for Israel’s decisions? In fact it often feels like we must not criticise Israel at all unless we promise faithfully that we aren’t members of Hamas 🙄🙄

I just think if posters really didn’t want Israel to start bombing again then they would condemn the decision to do so.

Well Hamas did start killing Palestinians the minute Israel removed itself.
Surely you can see that Hamas is not only a threat to Israel but to Palestinians as well.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 28/10/2025 22:05

Eyesopenwideawake · 28/10/2025 21:54

Israeli is holding 2 million hostages. Restricting their freedom of movement, starving them, denying them access to water, healthcare, housing, terrorising and indiscriminately murdering and maiming them.

Two million hostages. Prisoners of Israeli, no matter what Hamas do or don't do.

If Hamas were got rid of completely then things could get moving.Until then nothing will change.

Swipe left for the next trending thread