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IDF confirms strikes, accusing Hamas of 'blatant violation' of truce

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Twiglets1 · 19/10/2025 13:10

As reported by the BBC:

The Israel Defense Forces has just released a statement, confirming the strikes in southern Gaza. Here it is in full:

Earlier today, terrorists fired an anti-tank missile and gunfire toward IDF troops operating to dismantle terrorist infrastructure in the Rafah area, in southern Gaza, in accordance with the ceasefire agreement.

In response, the IDF has begun striking in the area to eliminate the threat and dismantle tunnel shafts and military structures used for terrorist activity.
These terrorist actions constitute a blatant violation of the ceasefire agreement, and the IDF will respond firmly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2kpx7yyq9pt

Israel strikes southern Gaza, accusing Hamas of 'bold violation of ceasefire' - live updates

In response, Hamas said it was committed to the ceasefire and accused Israel of breaking it several times.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2kpx7yyq9pt

OP posts:
TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 11:10

PrawnAgain · 20/10/2025 11:06

Maybe they did. But maybe they didn't.

Israel hasn’t prosecuted anyone involved in Oct 7th yet. Assume they are waiting for the end of the war.

Yup. I hope everyone who is guilty of breaking the Geneva Convention or terrorism is prosecuted.

Edited

Well the point is you don’t know enough to have an opinion do you?

You are working on the assumption they are not terrorists, for the purposes of your own agenda.

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 11:07

Myfeeded · 20/10/2025 10:53

But they are raping prisoners not during interrogation but for their own pleasure. Not for information.
It got exposed by an Israeli whistleblower.
Most of these people haven’t been charged with anything.
Whose life was rescued by this rape and do you think it’s a legitimate interrogation tactic? Would it be acceptable for Jewish detainees who may have information?

For their own pleasure?

You’re saying Israelis are turned on by terrorists who have viciously slaughtered their own people?

Gosh, what psychopaths they must be!

I should clarify at this point there is no evidence that Israel put sticks up anyone’s arses aside from terrorist ‘testimony’.

I think you just showed yours though @Myfeeded.

PrawnAgain · 20/10/2025 11:06

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 11:00

Maybe they filmed themselves partaking or being involved in gleefully slaughtering/raping/burning/mutilating/beheading/taking hostages?

Israel hasn’t prosecuted anyone involved in Oct 7th yet. Assume they are waiting for the end of the war.

Maybe they did. But maybe they didn't.

Israel hasn’t prosecuted anyone involved in Oct 7th yet. Assume they are waiting for the end of the war.

Yup. I hope everyone who is guilty of breaking the Geneva Convention or terrorism is prosecuted.

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 11:00

PrawnAgain · 20/10/2025 10:51

If people are locked up without trial or due process how do you know they are terrorists?

Maybe they filmed themselves partaking or being involved in gleefully slaughtering/raping/burning/mutilating/beheading/taking hostages?

Israel hasn’t prosecuted anyone involved in Oct 7th yet. Assume they are waiting for the end of the war.

Iambitingmytongue · 20/10/2025 10:57

Myfeeded · 20/10/2025 10:53

But they are raping prisoners not during interrogation but for their own pleasure. Not for information.
It got exposed by an Israeli whistleblower.
Most of these people haven’t been charged with anything.
Whose life was rescued by this rape and do you think it’s a legitimate interrogation tactic? Would it be acceptable for Jewish detainees who may have information?

‘Jewish’ detainees? Do you mean Israeli?

Myfeeded · 20/10/2025 10:53

But they are raping prisoners not during interrogation but for their own pleasure. Not for information.
It got exposed by an Israeli whistleblower.
Most of these people haven’t been charged with anything.
Whose life was rescued by this rape and do you think it’s a legitimate interrogation tactic? Would it be acceptable for Jewish detainees who may have information?

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 10:52

This scolding about how we speak about terrorists is such a distraction from the actual topic, namely that Hamas violated the ceasefire by attacking and killing two IDF soldiers.
Probably a bit more of a threat to peace than us not using gentle, hopeful words tbh.

PrawnAgain · 20/10/2025 10:51

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 10:46

I actually said I didn’t care if terrorists have a stick put up their arse to make them up give up intel to save lives. Like those of the Israeli hostages, many of whom died in captivity.

Just for clarification and I still don’t btw.

I don’t think it’s warped at all to not a give a shit about what happens to terrorists.

Suicidal empathy and the appeasement of evil has never been my thing.

If people are locked up without trial or due process how do you know they are terrorists?

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 10:46

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 20/10/2025 10:23

Given you're someone who thinks that it's perfectly fine to literally anally rape someone to death, because they were arrested without charge by Israel, I'm not sure we are either warped ones.

The depravity you are justifying is beyond disgusting.

I actually said I didn’t care if terrorists have a stick put up their arse to make them up give up intel to save lives. Like those of the Israeli hostages, many of whom died in captivity.

Just for clarification and I still don’t btw.

I don’t think it’s warped at all to not a give a shit about what happens to terrorists.

Suicidal empathy and the appeasement of evil has never been my thing.

PrawnAgain · 20/10/2025 10:29

Opinions on MN have absolutely no impact on a war in the ME so save your hyperbole and attempt to police how people perceive subhuman terrorist scum

The irony of accusing me of hyberbole and using the phrase subhuman terrorist scum to describe a whole population in the same sentence.

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 10:23

It’s not about the particular group you are describing as “vermin” it’s about describing ANY human in that way. You do not help Israelis or Palestinians with this behaviour. We know this and it is often seen as people draw back and start to allow themselves to feel justified in perpetrating the unthinkable. I wonder how many of you are mothers and what you want your children to inherit when you are gone? It takes true effort to pull yourselves back and find a better path, but surely you feel it’s worth it?

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 20/10/2025 10:23

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 08:55

What the fuck is your point?

That we shouldn’t demean the poor terrorists because it causes ‘issues’?

It is not normal and acceptable to think of terrorists, as vermin scum?

Speaking for myself, I’m not feeling patronised at all.

I think I’m in the online company of someone extremely sinister with warped views (definitely indoctrinated into something), who probably wouldn’t have the courage to voice those views in public so is doing so here under a cloak of anonymity.

Given you're someone who thinks that it's perfectly fine to literally anally rape someone to death, because they were arrested without charge by Israel, I'm not sure we are either warped ones.

The depravity you are justifying is beyond disgusting.

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 10:05

PrawnAgain · 20/10/2025 09:58

Not all Palestinians are Hamas.

The only way to have a last peace in the region is to stop the cycle of violence and hatred.

Dehumanisation of a population is only going to lead to more war and suffering, which nobody benefits from

All of Hamas are Palestinians. As are their supporters in Gaza.

That fact cannot be separated no matter how much people like you try to.

Opinions on MN have absolutely no impact on a war in the ME so save your hyperbole and attempt to police how people perceive subhuman terrorist scum.

PrawnAgain · 20/10/2025 09:58

Not all Palestinians are Hamas.

The only way to have a last peace in the region is to stop the cycle of violence and hatred.

Dehumanisation of a population is only going to lead to more war and suffering, which nobody benefits from

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 08:56

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 07:00

Wow that’s some very rat focused imagery you’ve got in your post. Why do you do that? It makes you sound so awful to describe humans in that way. Aim high, don’t let yourself be fooled into thinking dehumanising is normal or necessary.

Frankly there should a lot more dehumanisation of Hamas on these threads, not less.

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 08:55

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 08:21

Your right of course @HellsBalls and @TicklishMauveSquid we should fully embrace dehumanising and characterising people as vermin, that’s never caused any issues at all. I’m being sarcastic of course. I would suggest that you feel patronised because your language and attitudes are not mature or thoughtful. It matters. Not just for the individuals you seek to demean but because what you do to others becomes normalised and acceptable if unchallenged.

What the fuck is your point?

That we shouldn’t demean the poor terrorists because it causes ‘issues’?

It is not normal and acceptable to think of terrorists, as vermin scum?

Speaking for myself, I’m not feeling patronised at all.

I think I’m in the online company of someone extremely sinister with warped views (definitely indoctrinated into something), who probably wouldn’t have the courage to voice those views in public so is doing so here under a cloak of anonymity.

HellsBalls · 20/10/2025 08:31

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 08:21

Your right of course @HellsBalls and @TicklishMauveSquid we should fully embrace dehumanising and characterising people as vermin, that’s never caused any issues at all. I’m being sarcastic of course. I would suggest that you feel patronised because your language and attitudes are not mature or thoughtful. It matters. Not just for the individuals you seek to demean but because what you do to others becomes normalised and acceptable if unchallenged.

After years of Islamist terrorism, the Israelis have the measure of the jihadis, hence there abrupt solutions for dealing with them.

And please don’t conflate me calling Hamas vermin, with calling normal Palestinians vermin.

That would be lying, and I know you wouldn’t want to be accused of that.

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 08:21

Your right of course @HellsBalls and @TicklishMauveSquid we should fully embrace dehumanising and characterising people as vermin, that’s never caused any issues at all. I’m being sarcastic of course. I would suggest that you feel patronised because your language and attitudes are not mature or thoughtful. It matters. Not just for the individuals you seek to demean but because what you do to others becomes normalised and acceptable if unchallenged.

HellsBalls · 20/10/2025 08:15

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 08:10

Take a deep breath and try to remember that we are all human beings, someone’s son or daughter, wife or husband, sister or brother, or friend. Mercifully most posting on MN are loved and loving and know that demonising and dehumanising people is not the path to the sort of world we want our children to live in. You have lost your way.

How very condescending of you.
However please feel free to preach such bollocks to Hamas, and the jihadi apologists.

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 08:13

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 08:10

Take a deep breath and try to remember that we are all human beings, someone’s son or daughter, wife or husband, sister or brother, or friend. Mercifully most posting on MN are loved and loving and know that demonising and dehumanising people is not the path to the sort of world we want our children to live in. You have lost your way.

I have lost my way?

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 08:10

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 08:00

Fucking hell.

Blatant terrorist supporter concerned about ‘dehumanising’ savage terrorist scum on a parenting site.

Well I never.

It was always pretty clear this board was infested with jihadi lovers, but thanks for confirming it.

Take a deep breath and try to remember that we are all human beings, someone’s son or daughter, wife or husband, sister or brother, or friend. Mercifully most posting on MN are loved and loving and know that demonising and dehumanising people is not the path to the sort of world we want our children to live in. You have lost your way.

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 08:00

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 07:00

Wow that’s some very rat focused imagery you’ve got in your post. Why do you do that? It makes you sound so awful to describe humans in that way. Aim high, don’t let yourself be fooled into thinking dehumanising is normal or necessary.

Fucking hell.

Blatant terrorist supporter concerned about ‘dehumanising’ savage terrorist scum on a parenting site.

Well I never.

It was always pretty clear this board was infested with jihadi lovers, but thanks for confirming it.

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 07:43

HellsBalls · 20/10/2025 07:33

You think we should be respecting Hamas?

I think you should hold yourself to a higher standard.

HellsBalls · 20/10/2025 07:33

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 07:00

Wow that’s some very rat focused imagery you’ve got in your post. Why do you do that? It makes you sound so awful to describe humans in that way. Aim high, don’t let yourself be fooled into thinking dehumanising is normal or necessary.

You think we should be respecting Hamas?

Iambitingmytongue · 20/10/2025 07:26

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 07:00

Wow that’s some very rat focused imagery you’ve got in your post. Why do you do that? It makes you sound so awful to describe humans in that way. Aim high, don’t let yourself be fooled into thinking dehumanising is normal or necessary.

Because they are murderous terrorists?!

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