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Israelis should be welcome in Birmingham

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mids2019 · 19/10/2025 12:39

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15206171/Parts-Birmingham-no-area-Jews-says-Ed-Miliband-ministers-scramble-allow-Israeli-fans-attend-Aston-Villa-football-match.html

The government need to act on this. West Midlands police have more than enough man power to police a football match with at most 1000 away fans. I watched West Midlands politics today and there was a politician brazenly saying part of the reason for effectively banning the Tel Aviv fans was they there was 'a moral point about Gaza'. We cannot have local councillors, community leaders and MPs agitating for the anti Semitic ban of fans of one of Israel's premier football teams.

We have to face reality want know that a lot of local residents are anti Israel and have taken this opportunity for VIlla Park to become a no go area for Jews.

Let's hope the decision is overturned and quickly.

Parts of Birmingham 'can't be a no-go area for Jews', says Ed Miliband

The Energy Secretary said Britain 'cannot have a situation where any area is a no-go area for people of a particular religion or from a particular country'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15206171/Parts-Birmingham-no-area-Jews-says-Ed-Miliband-ministers-scramble-allow-Israeli-fans-attend-Aston-Villa-football-match.html

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Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 18:13

Stay in denial @Gloriia Israel is responsible for who it has killed

Gloriia · 09/11/2025 17:33

bigboykitty · 09/11/2025 17:27

No. The Israelis are 100% responsible for the death of every single child they have killed.

No. Hamas are.

They sat in their tunnels beneath schools, homes and hospitals whilst their civilians were unprotected. They're now shooting them in cold blood, not much outrage from the pro pals about that.

bigboykitty · 09/11/2025 17:27

Gloriia · 09/11/2025 17:15

Blame hamas. We've been through this. They started it, they didn't protect their civilians and even purposefully put them in harms way.

No. The Israelis are 100% responsible for the death of every single child they have killed.

Gloriia · 09/11/2025 17:18

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 15:46

No military support

No military support. Really.

Have you heard of Iran? Of hezbollah? Of rich hamas bosses in Qatar?

Do you think poor old hamas are busy making DIY guns in those tunnels, no one sending them weapons?!

Gloriia · 09/11/2025 17:15

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 15:48

Exactly @SharonEllis dead children did not start a war but Israel stilll killed 20,000 plus of them….,and we are meant to think that proportionate

Blame hamas. We've been through this. They started it, they didn't protect their civilians and even purposefully put them in harms way.

Clavinova · 09/11/2025 16:39

bigboykitty · 09/11/2025 16:01

It wasn't 'what they wanted'. It was what was necessary for safety based on the intelligence provided by UEFA and European police forces about the violent and racist MTA fans, but sure...

intelligence provided by UEFA

UEFA issued a statement in mid-October urging that the Maccabi fans be allowed to travel to the match;

^UEFA, the governing body of European football, has urged local authorities to allow Maccabi fans to travel. The organisation said in a statement: “UEFA wants fans to be able to travel and support their team in a safe, secure and welcoming environment, and encourages both teams and the competent authorities to agree on the implementation of appropriate measures necessary to allow this to happen.”^

bigboykitty · 09/11/2025 16:01

CrispyKnees · 08/11/2025 21:39

The response to that will be interesting.

The fact that there were masked anti Israel protestors causing trouble despite them getting what they wanted, no Maccabee supporters, kind of belied the idea this was about Maccabee supporters being a risk of causing trouble themselves anyway.

It wasn't 'what they wanted'. It was what was necessary for safety based on the intelligence provided by UEFA and European police forces about the violent and racist MTA fans, but sure...

bigboykitty · 09/11/2025 15:58

CrispyKnees · 09/11/2025 13:19

Well that’s just a tad one sided.

Are Ukraine banned?

Most of them civilians my backside.

This is just more blatant antisemitism.

It's antisemitic to make false claims of antisemitism!

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 15:48

SharonEllis · 09/11/2025 15:41

Yes, that's right. Dead children started a war.

Exactly @SharonEllis dead children did not start a war but Israel stilll killed 20,000 plus of them….,and we are meant to think that proportionate

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 15:46

No military support

SharonEllis · 09/11/2025 15:41

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 15:38

They? The dead children?

Yes, that's right. Dead children started a war.

SharonEllis · 09/11/2025 15:40

I can't believe you typed out that Palestinians don't get support from the international community. You can't actually believe that? Or expect anyone else to?
Quick wiki lesson:
From 2014 to 2020, U.N. agencies spent nearly $4.5 billion in Gaza, including $600 million in 2020 alone.[8] According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, aid to Palestinians totaled over $40 billion between 1994 and 2020.[9][10] plus millions from Qatar.

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 15:38

They? The dead children?

SharonEllis · 09/11/2025 15:36

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 15:33

One was a disproportionate collective punishment of a trapped civilian population in response to an awful terrorist attack, Palestinians receive neither arms or support from the international community or in anyway match the IDF in military capabilities. So these events are not comparable except that Russia is a pariah state in Europe as Israel is well on it’s way to becoming

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Well they shouldn't have started a war then! Hamas gets arms directly from Iran and indirectly from Russia and China. Its also very wealthy,not least through taxing Gazans and large criminal networks and the fact that it gets huge amounts of aid. Poor little Hamas doesn't cut it.

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 15:33

One was a disproportionate collective punishment of a trapped civilian population in response to an awful terrorist attack, Palestinians receive neither arms or support from the international community or in anyway match the IDF in military capabilities. So these events are not comparable except that Russia is a pariah state in Europe as Israel is well on it’s way to becoming

SharonEllis · 09/11/2025 15:27

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 15:03

Russia has been banned from many things,
it is not antisemitic to oppose war crimes
it is not antisemetic to oppose the slaughter of civilians and 20,000 children

Edited

You can keep repeating that over and over again but everyone can see it for the over simplistic, one sided statement that it is and you know Russia and Israel are not equivalents in these respective wars. One was an illegal invasion of a sovreign nation, the other was a response to an illegal invasion of a sovreign nation, even if the prosecution of that war is considered to have gone beyond that.

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 15:03

Russia has been banned from many things,
it is not antisemitic to oppose war crimes
it is not antisemetic to oppose the slaughter of civilians and 20,000 children

CrispyKnees · 09/11/2025 13:19

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 07:16

It’s in the article @CrispyKnees .the ban is being sought on the following grounds

”its failure to implement and enforce an effective anti-racism policy and the playing by Israeli clubs in occupied Palestinian territories without the consent of the Palestinian Football Association.”

the killing of 69, 000 Palestinians predominantly civilians, the use of starvation as a weapon of war, the continued restriction of aid entry into Gaza, the daily breaches of Palestinian human rights these probably all also influenced the call for a ban, a ban that truly should have been in place years ago due to activities in the Occupied Territories

Edited

Well that’s just a tad one sided.

Are Ukraine banned?

Most of them civilians my backside.

This is just more blatant antisemitism.

Thedawnchorus · 09/11/2025 08:36

Gloriia · 09/11/2025 08:16

Never heard of it.

That surprises me. It's often referred to as Bibiton as it is effectively his mouthpiece. Makes the Daily Mail look like a left wing newspaper. It's owner was an interesting character. Made his money in casinos and you know how shady that business is. Personal friend of Netanyahu who actually met his body at the airport after he died.

Gloriia · 09/11/2025 08:16

Thedawnchorus · 09/11/2025 08:06

I suppose everyone should read Israel Hayom and only Israel Hayom as everyone else is lying.

Never heard of it.

Thedawnchorus · 09/11/2025 08:06

Gloriia · 09/11/2025 07:53

What a load of bollocks, Uefa are an absolute joke. They obviously studied at the same school as the BBC for fact and truth telling.

I suppose everyone should read Israel Hayom and only Israel Hayom as everyone else is lying.

Gloriia · 09/11/2025 07:53

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 07:16

It’s in the article @CrispyKnees .the ban is being sought on the following grounds

”its failure to implement and enforce an effective anti-racism policy and the playing by Israeli clubs in occupied Palestinian territories without the consent of the Palestinian Football Association.”

the killing of 69, 000 Palestinians predominantly civilians, the use of starvation as a weapon of war, the continued restriction of aid entry into Gaza, the daily breaches of Palestinian human rights these probably all also influenced the call for a ban, a ban that truly should have been in place years ago due to activities in the Occupied Territories

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What a load of bollocks, Uefa are an absolute joke. They obviously studied at the same school as the BBC for fact and truth telling.

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 07:16

It’s in the article @CrispyKnees .the ban is being sought on the following grounds

”its failure to implement and enforce an effective anti-racism policy and the playing by Israeli clubs in occupied Palestinian territories without the consent of the Palestinian Football Association.”

the killing of 69, 000 Palestinians predominantly civilians, the use of starvation as a weapon of war, the continued restriction of aid entry into Gaza, the daily breaches of Palestinian human rights these probably all also influenced the call for a ban, a ban that truly should have been in place years ago due to activities in the Occupied Territories

CrispyKnees · 09/11/2025 00:15

Everexpanding · 08/11/2025 21:40

On what basis?

A genocide that never happened?

A famine that never happened?

Everexpanding · 08/11/2025 21:40

Might all not be an issue soon if UEFA votes to exclude Israeli teams

https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/irish-governing-body-approves-call-uefa-ban-israel-source-says-2025-11-08/

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