Israelis should be welcome in Birmingham

But if the ban on MTA was because of a history of violence then why didn't the West Midlands Police statement just say this - it would have saved a lot of political fallout.

Also the recent Diwali festival in Birmingham was also postponed due to security fears following the recent Manchester terrorist attacks. Although I imagine that this was also due to a history of violence of Diwali for example in setting off fireworks, candles, dancing and eating copious quantities of ladoos?

But there HAS been a history of MTA fans being violent. So they got a ban. This happens all the time in football

And the blanker ban was extended to all English clubs and their fans for 5 years (6 for Liverpool)

But there has been no history of violence between MTA and Aston Villa. Whereas there is history of violence between say Rangers and Celtic.

Also if the ban is due to violent football hooliganism then why did the WMP statement say that.

And the sectarian grudge is rooted in religion

No that exactly why they were banned
behaviour
my then partner was at that game, he did nothing wrong, in fact he was terrified
but he was banned
it’s a blanket ban

The ban is due to violence.

bittertwisted
why do you think Liverpool fans were banned in the 90s?

If you are referring to the 1985 Heysel Stadium disaster, 39 people died, 600 people were injured and 14 Liverpool fans were convicted of manslaughter - hardly a comparable example.

You referenced 'the old firm' - I thought there was a sectarian grudge between Celtic and Rangers? What grudge do Aston Villa fans hold against Maccabi Tel Aviv?

I didn’t say that. That’s bollocks. I replied to a poster who gave the Warsaw example. But in any case, bans for domestic matches are different to bans for European games. Different sports authorities, different issues, different histories.

And, of course, different nationalities.

English teams were banned (by Thatcher) from Europe for years for violent conduct. Of course there are bans. The stink coming off this one is in the detail.

Only because some people are sensitive

What?

Edited for no quoted post. I’ll repost.

Do Aston Villa fans hold a grudge against Maccabi Tel Aviv?

You’re saying that bans never happen because of previous behaviour. See the old firm.

See the club’s own statement.

Why do you throw allegations around like that?

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/november/30/club-statement-aston-villa-legia-warszawa/

Statement on the Legia Warsaw game here;

Aston Villa Football Club can confirm that no away fans were allowed into Villa Park for this evening's UEFA European Conference League fixture with Legia Warsaw on the advice of West Midlands Police following large-scale disorder outside the stadium caused by visiting supporters.

The UK safety authorities, UEFA and Aston Villa, communicated on November 2 that the ticket allocation for away fans for this fixture would be reduced to 1,002 on the advice of safety authorities as a result of previous large-scale disorder caused by Legia fans last month at AZ Alkmaar.

Approximately an hour before kick-off, Legia fans engaged in planned and systematic violent acts against West Midlands Police officers and a decision was then made by West Midlands Police to exclude all Legia supporters.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/november/30/club-statement-aston-villa-legia-warszawa/

Why are you lying

why do you think Liverpool fans were banned in the 90s?
why do you think away fans are banned at Glaswegian old firm derbys?
are they all Jewish?

Shame everyone who feels sorry for the "poor Macabee fans that just want to watch football in peace" aren't as quick to do so

UEFA banned Warsaw from other European fixtures and reduced the ticket allocation for the game in England. The ban only happened because of violence by Warsaw fans on the day, not before. If Maccabi turn up (UEFA want them to be able to) and there’s disorder caused by them, like the Polish fans, then, sure, crack down.

But that’s not how it is.

Google is your friend.

You really should think about googling before spouting utter rubbish. Plenty others have been banned. It is just nobody objected to polish hooligans being banned.

For those who think it was one sided. The police didn’t.

If these fans were anything other than Israeli there wouldn’t be a ban.

Of course not.