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Why are Palestinians tortured in Israeli prisons?

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Leftisrightisleft · 15/10/2025 08:56

We have heard time and time again from detained Palestinians once they are freed, about the extensive torture and abuse they faced at the hands of Israeli prisons guards.

Is this legal in Israel? Is that why nothing is done about it?

Source:

https://news.sky.com/story/freed-palestinian-prisoner-alleges-torture-and-deaths-in-israeli-detention-13450233

Freed Palestinian prisoner alleges torture and deaths in Israeli detention

Akram al Basyouni, who spent nearly two years in custody, tells Sky News that prisoners were beaten "so savagely our ribs were shattered".

https://news.sky.com/story/freed-palestinian-prisoner-alleges-torture-and-deaths-in-israeli-detention-13450233

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CrossChecking · 17/10/2025 07:50

HellsBalls · 17/10/2025 07:21

@CrossChecking ‘He was an amputee after having his leg blown off by Israel in 2015’

A quick google reveals he took part in a riot in 2015, and was shot in the ankle by the IDF. He was arrested in 2016 (for the rioting) and released a year later. His leg was amputated in 2019.

So at least half your post is bollocks.

Were you googling to see if your racist stereotyping was right and he was actually a suicide bomber?

I'm trusting channel 4 rather than someone whose first thought when they hear about a disabled man taken from a hospital and beaten until he was blinded is 'suicide bomber' based on nothing but the fact that the victim is Palestinian.

HellsBalls · 17/10/2025 07:21

@CrossChecking ‘He was an amputee after having his leg blown off by Israel in 2015’

A quick google reveals he took part in a riot in 2015, and was shot in the ankle by the IDF. He was arrested in 2016 (for the rioting) and released a year later. His leg was amputated in 2019.

So at least half your post is bollocks.

PotatoesandOatsforlife · 17/10/2025 04:56

People who deny the barbarity of the Israeli prison system are as baffling as they are offensive. Do they not see news reports of skeletal, traumatised souls emerging from those places. Shadows of their former selves? It's sick to deny it.

PotatoesandOatsforlife · 17/10/2025 04:51

HellsBalls · 16/10/2025 23:27

@CrossChecking ’then they blinded him in detention by beating him in the head’

How many stories are coming out about Palestinians being blinded in custody? Sounds like the Hamas propaganda have moved on from using genocide in every sentence.
Another unsubstantiated story with zero evidence.
He could have been a failed suicide bomber for all anyone knows.

I think it might be that you've read about the same case in different places and assumed it's several different stories.
Your post is shocking honestly. At what point will you accept that Israel have repeatedly violated The Geneva Convention?
The poor man in question has been languishing in an Israeli prison. He wouldn't have had much opportunity to be a suicide bomber in that time, and there's next to zero chance he'd still be alive if he was before. It was a Channel 4 report. We could see him with our own eyes, and I'm sure they're pretty diligent whilst researching the accuracy of stories to report on. He was very obviously a normal Palestinian, not Hamas. He was imprisoned for being a young Palestinian man. Held without charge. Happens all too frequently.

PotatoesandOatsforlife · 17/10/2025 04:35

CrossChecking · 16/10/2025 23:00

Did anyone see the Palestinian man on channel 4 news? He was an amputee after having his leg blown off by Israel in 2015 then they blinded him in detention by beating him in the head. He is now back at his mums tent in Gaza, blind, in a wheelchair and homeless.

I wonder do they tell people? Like do they go home and have dinner with their wives or a beer with their mates and say guess what I did today? I beat the shit out of a one legged man until I blinded him or is it something they keep between colleagues?

Yes, I saw that report. I commented on it on another thread. It broke my heart to see him. The GAs (genocide apologists) will probably say he blinded himself or something. I don't know at this point if they're (the GAs) deliberately lying, or if it's willful ignorance?

CrossChecking · 17/10/2025 00:48

HellsBalls · 16/10/2025 23:27

@CrossChecking ’then they blinded him in detention by beating him in the head’

How many stories are coming out about Palestinians being blinded in custody? Sounds like the Hamas propaganda have moved on from using genocide in every sentence.
Another unsubstantiated story with zero evidence.
He could have been a failed suicide bomber for all anyone knows.

Yes sure Hellsbells thats the most likely explanation, I mean he is Muslim after all, of course he would be a suicide bomber and not a victim.

HellsBalls · 16/10/2025 23:27

@CrossChecking ’then they blinded him in detention by beating him in the head’

How many stories are coming out about Palestinians being blinded in custody? Sounds like the Hamas propaganda have moved on from using genocide in every sentence.
Another unsubstantiated story with zero evidence.
He could have been a failed suicide bomber for all anyone knows.

DrPrunesqualer · 16/10/2025 23:12

CrossChecking · 16/10/2025 23:00

Did anyone see the Palestinian man on channel 4 news? He was an amputee after having his leg blown off by Israel in 2015 then they blinded him in detention by beating him in the head. He is now back at his mums tent in Gaza, blind, in a wheelchair and homeless.

I wonder do they tell people? Like do they go home and have dinner with their wives or a beer with their mates and say guess what I did today? I beat the shit out of a one legged man until I blinded him or is it something they keep between colleagues?

Well They’d deny it to the outside world and some would believe them

CrossChecking · 16/10/2025 23:00

Did anyone see the Palestinian man on channel 4 news? He was an amputee after having his leg blown off by Israel in 2015 then they blinded him in detention by beating him in the head. He is now back at his mums tent in Gaza, blind, in a wheelchair and homeless.

I wonder do they tell people? Like do they go home and have dinner with their wives or a beer with their mates and say guess what I did today? I beat the shit out of a one legged man until I blinded him or is it something they keep between colleagues?

DrPrunesqualer · 16/10/2025 20:16

PotatoesandOatsforlife · 16/10/2025 19:57

Absolutely. Israel needs to allow more international journalists in too. I don't know what the latest is on that? Hopefully the genocide apologists will finally accept the truth when journalists from around the world report their findings.
But, maybe even then...

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Agree
Hopefully Netanyahu will face the courts for war crimes

He skipped European countries to avoid arrest 6months ago Hopefully they'll catch him soon

PotatoesandOatsforlife · 16/10/2025 19:57

DrPrunesqualer · 16/10/2025 12:10

I believe that Doctors at Nasser hospital are not Hamas
I believe the bbc journalist that saw it for himself

Absolutely. Israel needs to allow more international journalists in too. I don't know what the latest is on that? Hopefully the genocide apologists will finally accept the truth when journalists from around the world report their findings.
But, maybe even then...

DrPrunesqualer · 16/10/2025 12:10

HellsBalls · 16/10/2025 11:50

Do you honestly believe the Hamas Health Authority have not had a look at that before it’s been released?

I believe that Doctors at Nasser hospital are not Hamas
I believe the bbc journalist that saw it for himself

HellsBalls · 16/10/2025 11:50

DrPrunesqualer · 16/10/2025 11:32

Read the article

The statement comes from
Doctor's at Nasser hospital !

not Hamas

Do you honestly believe the Hamas Health Authority have not had a look at that before it’s been released?

DrPrunesqualer · 16/10/2025 11:35

CrossChecking · 16/10/2025 10:43

Years of radicalisation means that Palestinians are not seen as people. Treating them as sub human is the natural consequence of that. Torture and sexual abuse has been happening for years in Israeli detention, everyone knows but they don't care about what happens to 'human animals'. This type of rhetoric has been happening for decades, the dehumanisation of Palestinians, it works as a tool to enable the type of extreme violence they inflict on them.

and clearly so some can turn a blind eye

DrPrunesqualer · 16/10/2025 11:32

HellsBalls · 16/10/2025 10:14

So a totally unsubstantiated Hamas press release.

Read the article

The statement comes from
Doctor's at Nasser hospital !

not Hamas

CrossChecking · 16/10/2025 10:43

Years of radicalisation means that Palestinians are not seen as people. Treating them as sub human is the natural consequence of that. Torture and sexual abuse has been happening for years in Israeli detention, everyone knows but they don't care about what happens to 'human animals'. This type of rhetoric has been happening for decades, the dehumanisation of Palestinians, it works as a tool to enable the type of extreme violence they inflict on them.

Everexpanding · 16/10/2025 10:17

From the bbc

“Footage filmed by a freelance journalist working for the BBC at Nasser's mortuary appeared to show the body of a blindfolded man. Another body seemed to have marks around the wrists and ankles.”

Everexpanding · 16/10/2025 10:16

No a statement from doctors examining the bodies

HellsBalls · 16/10/2025 10:14

Everexpanding · 16/10/2025 10:07

“Doctors at Nasser hospital in the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis, which received the Palestinian bodies from the ICRC, said on Wednesday there was substantial evidence of beatings and summary executions, and that none of the bodies were identifiable.

“Almost all of them had been blindfolded, and had been bound up and they had gunshots between the eyes. Almost all of them had been executed,” said Dr Ahmed al-Farra, the head of Nasser hospital’s paediatric department”

“There were also scars and discoloured patches of skin showing they had been beaten before being killed. There were also signs that their bodies had been abused after they were killed.”

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/15/palestinian-bodies-returned-by-israel-show-signs-of-torture-and-execution-say-doctors

So a totally unsubstantiated Hamas press release.

1dayatatime · 16/10/2025 10:14

Ihatetomatoes · 16/10/2025 09:24

I wish EVERYONE would read and try to understand this. Its a long paragraph though and soundbites are easier for many.

Well the best attempt example of a black nation "going out to bat" for its own black citizens has been Nigeria.

However even in Nigeria the black citizens have faced persecution as a result. None of which reaches the headlines of course because "well they are black and Christian".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence_in_Nigeria

Everexpanding · 16/10/2025 10:07

“Doctors at Nasser hospital in the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis, which received the Palestinian bodies from the ICRC, said on Wednesday there was substantial evidence of beatings and summary executions, and that none of the bodies were identifiable.

“Almost all of them had been blindfolded, and had been bound up and they had gunshots between the eyes. Almost all of them had been executed,” said Dr Ahmed al-Farra, the head of Nasser hospital’s paediatric department”

“There were also scars and discoloured patches of skin showing they had been beaten before being killed. There were also signs that their bodies had been abused after they were killed.”

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/15/palestinian-bodies-returned-by-israel-show-signs-of-torture-and-execution-say-doctors

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/gaza

Everexpanding · 16/10/2025 10:04

Marwan Barghouti assaulted by prison guards

“In a statement quoted in Maariv newspaper on Wednesday, Ben Gvir denied the assault allegations, but added that he was “proud that [Barghouti’s] situation has changed radically during my tenure – play time is over, holiday camps are over.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/15/palestinian-leader-marwan-barghouti-assaulted-by-israeli-prison-guards-son-says

Palestinian leader Marwan Barghouti assaulted by Israeli prison guards, son says

Family fears for 66-year-old’s life after assault while he was being transferred between prisons

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/15/palestinian-leader-marwan-barghouti-assaulted-by-israeli-prison-guards-son-says

Dagda · 16/10/2025 09:30

HellsBalls · 16/10/2025 07:08

Fucking hell.
Take a look in the mirror.

Another deep, insightful, intelligent and informative point from Hells that we can all ponder on.

Ihatetomatoes · 16/10/2025 09:24

EasyTouch · 15/10/2025 22:42

I've been a Zionist most of my life, as a non Jew.
And no set of people look to the internet for teaching about Israel/ Palestine more than the so called Pro Palestinians.

The shallow knowledge, the lack of breadth of knowledge of geopolitics, the emotionalism, the appropriation of terminology pertinent to other groups' suffering, the circular thinking and now using the terminology " radicalised" which is usually pertaining to Islamism for people who believe in Israel's right to both exist and defend herself .
But I expect that there will be a denial of anti Semitism ( what the fuck is wrong with being for Israel? ) and no mass fleeing from the West of White anti Zionists whose privilege in relation to the rest of the world came about on the backs of free labour in the cotton, cane and corn plantations all over the Americas and which funded the Industrial Revolution. And for which the slaves not their descendants received NO reparations and which the UK finished paying reparations to the descendants of Slaves owners only within the last few years.

Which means that I, a Black Brit descendant of British slavery helped to fund reparations to some no account descedants of slave owners, whilst none of my slave ancestors or their descendants, including myself or my daughter received anything.

There is nothing unique about the Israel/ Palestinian mix up, aside from the fact that the one side with indigenous roots and consecutive history of expulsion, thus forming a diaspora, facing hatred, conspiracy,pogroms, expulsion, over taxing, ghettoisation ( the Italian word "ghetto" pertains to the scarce areas allocated where Jews were allowed to live and trade in the few trades that they were allowed to work in , in Italy starting with Venice) is both resented for existing outside of Israel and resented for having a Nation of refuge and flourish outside of a diaspora where anti Semitism is always under the surface ( as the " we are better at non racism than our Continental brethren" UK and " we cannot be racist; we never colonised anybody" Ireland have proven).

Another thing; when they go for the Jews, they always come for us Black people.
I make no apology for regarding Israel / Jew hate as my Canary In The Coalmine.

Regardless of anti Zionist Jews, anti Semitic Black people, Black Muslims who put Muslim before Black, Liberal / Leftist Whites who force team Muslims with race and Muslims who do the same whilst not acknowledging the anti Blackness of too much of the non Black Muslim world that would make a White Reformer blush if they were made privy to any behind closed doors chat.

I suspect that I am both older and far more worldly than you.
In a world where the pre war Jewish population still has not been made up , due to a real, bonafide Industrial, individually targeted genocide, where six million were murdered for being Jewish, not for living in a war zone and in still living memory, with the checks and balances of Nazi efficient evidence harbouring and having the strength to fight for a return to their roots , because the war eventually taught so many of them to believe fuck shit is fuck shit at first glance and not an apparition; yeah, I'm pro Israel.

I doubt that your concern for Palestinians liberation has lead to a soul search about the various nations and groups that have governed over the territories in the last, say one hundred and odd years ( just outside living memory, but plenty of secondary sources and of course, plenty of written primary sources) and who were regarded as Palestinians, the internal tensions that precipitated modern Zionism, the pogroms in Palestine via the Ottomans and the fact that the Holocaust was the cherry on the cake of the catalyst for a formation of modern Israel and not the cake itself.

Add to the fact that much of the land used then to form Israel was SOLD to Israelis by those who previously lived there. Whose descendants got Sellers' remorse.

I recognise these tropes as they have been used against Black people of Transatlantic slavery heritage , too and with too much success, unfortunately.

I wish that there was a Black nation willing to go to bat for its people like Israel does for hers.

I wish EVERYONE would read and try to understand this. Its a long paragraph though and soundbites are easier for many.

Everexpanding · 16/10/2025 09:12

EasyTouch · 15/10/2025 22:42

I've been a Zionist most of my life, as a non Jew.
And no set of people look to the internet for teaching about Israel/ Palestine more than the so called Pro Palestinians.

The shallow knowledge, the lack of breadth of knowledge of geopolitics, the emotionalism, the appropriation of terminology pertinent to other groups' suffering, the circular thinking and now using the terminology " radicalised" which is usually pertaining to Islamism for people who believe in Israel's right to both exist and defend herself .
But I expect that there will be a denial of anti Semitism ( what the fuck is wrong with being for Israel? ) and no mass fleeing from the West of White anti Zionists whose privilege in relation to the rest of the world came about on the backs of free labour in the cotton, cane and corn plantations all over the Americas and which funded the Industrial Revolution. And for which the slaves not their descendants received NO reparations and which the UK finished paying reparations to the descendants of Slaves owners only within the last few years.

Which means that I, a Black Brit descendant of British slavery helped to fund reparations to some no account descedants of slave owners, whilst none of my slave ancestors or their descendants, including myself or my daughter received anything.

There is nothing unique about the Israel/ Palestinian mix up, aside from the fact that the one side with indigenous roots and consecutive history of expulsion, thus forming a diaspora, facing hatred, conspiracy,pogroms, expulsion, over taxing, ghettoisation ( the Italian word "ghetto" pertains to the scarce areas allocated where Jews were allowed to live and trade in the few trades that they were allowed to work in , in Italy starting with Venice) is both resented for existing outside of Israel and resented for having a Nation of refuge and flourish outside of a diaspora where anti Semitism is always under the surface ( as the " we are better at non racism than our Continental brethren" UK and " we cannot be racist; we never colonised anybody" Ireland have proven).

Another thing; when they go for the Jews, they always come for us Black people.
I make no apology for regarding Israel / Jew hate as my Canary In The Coalmine.

Regardless of anti Zionist Jews, anti Semitic Black people, Black Muslims who put Muslim before Black, Liberal / Leftist Whites who force team Muslims with race and Muslims who do the same whilst not acknowledging the anti Blackness of too much of the non Black Muslim world that would make a White Reformer blush if they were made privy to any behind closed doors chat.

I suspect that I am both older and far more worldly than you.
In a world where the pre war Jewish population still has not been made up , due to a real, bonafide Industrial, individually targeted genocide, where six million were murdered for being Jewish, not for living in a war zone and in still living memory, with the checks and balances of Nazi efficient evidence harbouring and having the strength to fight for a return to their roots , because the war eventually taught so many of them to believe fuck shit is fuck shit at first glance and not an apparition; yeah, I'm pro Israel.

I doubt that your concern for Palestinians liberation has lead to a soul search about the various nations and groups that have governed over the territories in the last, say one hundred and odd years ( just outside living memory, but plenty of secondary sources and of course, plenty of written primary sources) and who were regarded as Palestinians, the internal tensions that precipitated modern Zionism, the pogroms in Palestine via the Ottomans and the fact that the Holocaust was the cherry on the cake of the catalyst for a formation of modern Israel and not the cake itself.

Add to the fact that much of the land used then to form Israel was SOLD to Israelis by those who previously lived there. Whose descendants got Sellers' remorse.

I recognise these tropes as they have been used against Black people of Transatlantic slavery heritage , too and with too much success, unfortunately.

I wish that there was a Black nation willing to go to bat for its people like Israel does for hers.

Hi @EasyTouch perhaps you could answer a question for me while you are here again, you never replied last time

do you see evidence of racism in the Israeli state’s treatment of Palestinians?

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