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Why would would you still have pro Palestinian marches apart from now instilling more fear into the Jewish community

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mids2019 · 14/10/2025 04:21

Now we have what looks like a peace to be celebrated why are people still going to march for Palestine? The genocide has stopped in their opinion so shouldn't they be at least joyful or if that is not the case what do they really want? Do they want to keep marching until the Israeli state is no more?

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Stripes56 · 17/10/2025 20:26

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/10/2025 20:14

I completely understand that these people protesting felt intimidating for the Jewish community. A minority were there to spread hate, the majority of people had good intentions.
The noise definitely had an impact on arranging the ceasefire.
I have questions about the famine too, seeing a lot the healthy people, I believe that certain people manly babies were starved while some men got fatter.
I wouldn't put it past hamas,the destruction and terror inflicted in Palestine by Israel was deplorable too, the innocent children and families suffering terror, bombed, blown apart.
Not many will agree with you.
I don't think anyone outside of believers should be wearing it.

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Believers of what?

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/10/2025 20:14

Stripes56 · 17/10/2025 19:53

I can understand why the keffiyeh is considered hateful by some. It’s because it means people are showing solidarity to one side over another. But is that in itself a problem? These boards are full of people who are either clearly pro one side or another? Do one’s views need to be hidden in public?

I understand that there are real sensitivities around this with the increase in antisemitism - but is there not a danger of conflating showing solidarity with Palestinians to being antisemitic?

I completely understand that these people protesting felt intimidating for the Jewish community. A minority were there to spread hate, the majority of people had good intentions.
The noise definitely had an impact on arranging the ceasefire.
I have questions about the famine too, seeing a lot the healthy people, I believe that certain people manly babies were starved while some men got fatter.
I wouldn't put it past hamas,the destruction and terror inflicted in Palestine by Israel was deplorable too, the innocent children and families suffering terror, bombed, blown apart.
Not many will agree with you.
I don't think anyone outside of believers should be wearing it.

Stripes56 · 17/10/2025 20:13

Gloriia · 17/10/2025 20:00

No it isn't because it's associated with showing solidarity it because the people who wear them <nowadays, I accept they haven't always had this association> tend to be shouting offensive slurs about Israel.

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Completely agree that people should not shout out offensive things - but what about people wearing Keffiyehs quietly? Is that ok?

SisterTeatime · 17/10/2025 20:13

Stripes56 · 17/10/2025 19:53

I can understand why the keffiyeh is considered hateful by some. It’s because it means people are showing solidarity to one side over another. But is that in itself a problem? These boards are full of people who are either clearly pro one side or another? Do one’s views need to be hidden in public?

I understand that there are real sensitivities around this with the increase in antisemitism - but is there not a danger of conflating showing solidarity with Palestinians to being antisemitic?

Well basically, the people wearing them at present in the UK are just showing off. I think also they are quite happy if others feel intimidated. Also why would someone who really isn’t antisemitic wear something that is currently being used to signal antisemitism?

Gloriia · 17/10/2025 20:00

Stripes56 · 17/10/2025 19:53

I can understand why the keffiyeh is considered hateful by some. It’s because it means people are showing solidarity to one side over another. But is that in itself a problem? These boards are full of people who are either clearly pro one side or another? Do one’s views need to be hidden in public?

I understand that there are real sensitivities around this with the increase in antisemitism - but is there not a danger of conflating showing solidarity with Palestinians to being antisemitic?

No it isn't because it's associated with showing solidarity it because the people who wear them <nowadays, I accept they haven't always had this association> tend to be shouting offensive slurs about Israel.

Stripes56 · 17/10/2025 19:53

Gloriia · 17/10/2025 10:57

I used to live and work in the ME and think we even had one then many years ago.

It has been misappropriated now by the pro pals, it has come to symbolise hate and activism.

I can understand why the keffiyeh is considered hateful by some. It’s because it means people are showing solidarity to one side over another. But is that in itself a problem? These boards are full of people who are either clearly pro one side or another? Do one’s views need to be hidden in public?

I understand that there are real sensitivities around this with the increase in antisemitism - but is there not a danger of conflating showing solidarity with Palestinians to being antisemitic?

inamarina · 17/10/2025 19:22

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 17/10/2025 18:57

Let’s hope she’s the next one arrested and thrown in prison.

I really hope so! She sounds completely unhinged.
What makes it even scarier is the fact she’s a medical professional.

Mildorado · 17/10/2025 19:08

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 17/10/2025 18:57

Let’s hope she’s the next one arrested and thrown in prison.

She's whipping up hate, it's absolutely vile.
I keep thinking I can't get any more shocked, and then....

Mildorado · 17/10/2025 19:08

quantumbutterfly · 17/10/2025 18:45

Drug & people traffficking. Everyone is collateral damage.

True 🙏

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 17/10/2025 18:57

Mildorado · 17/10/2025 18:39

That is unbelievable.
How is it okay to write this stuff?

Let’s hope she’s the next one arrested and thrown in prison.

quantumbutterfly · 17/10/2025 18:45

Mildorado · 17/10/2025 18:39

The Palestinians are collateral damage, tragically.

Drug & people traffficking. Everyone is collateral damage.

Mildorado · 17/10/2025 18:39

quantumbutterfly · 17/10/2025 18:34

They have a lucrative gig. There's nothing godly about it. They are an organised crime syndicate with international links. Their MO is weaponising faith and discontent.

fincrimecentral.com/us-drug-cartels-terrorist-organizations/

The Palestinians are collateral damage, tragically.

Mildorado · 17/10/2025 18:39

inamarina · 17/10/2025 18:19

Rahmeh Aladwan‘s latest tweet, in response to Ayoub Khan MP celebrating the news that Maccabi Tel Aviv fans will not be permitted to watch the match at Aston Villa:

This single post has exposed the so-called British MPs, Lords, and other government officials who put 'israel' first. Remember every one of them who opposed this decision (quotes), and ensure they are not voted in again. Maccabi fans are jewish extremists. They chant violent death and rape threats, and the British public is safer without them here. Next, we must ban genocidal 'israel' and their hostile terrorist lobby groups all together. Free Britain from jewish supremacy (zionism).

That is unbelievable.
How is it okay to write this stuff?

quantumbutterfly · 17/10/2025 18:34

Mildorado · 17/10/2025 16:23

....not until they have achieved their aim to be part of the greater Caliphate, sadly.

They have a lucrative gig. There's nothing godly about it. They are an organised crime syndicate with international links. Their MO is weaponising faith and discontent.

fincrimecentral.com/us-drug-cartels-terrorist-organizations/

inamarina · 17/10/2025 18:19

Rahmeh Aladwan‘s latest tweet, in response to Ayoub Khan MP celebrating the news that Maccabi Tel Aviv fans will not be permitted to watch the match at Aston Villa:

This single post has exposed the so-called British MPs, Lords, and other government officials who put 'israel' first. Remember every one of them who opposed this decision (quotes), and ensure they are not voted in again. Maccabi fans are jewish extremists. They chant violent death and rape threats, and the British public is safer without them here. Next, we must ban genocidal 'israel' and their hostile terrorist lobby groups all together. Free Britain from jewish supremacy (zionism).

Mildorado · 17/10/2025 16:23

Ihatetomatoes · 17/10/2025 16:07

The biggest threat to peace is if Hamas continue to execute Palestinians in the street. It will mean that 'someone' will have to go in and kill them (Hamas). Just what Israel was trying to do!

President Donald Trump issued a clear warning about the violence on Thursday.
"If Hamas continues to kill people in Gaza, which was not the Deal, we will have no choice but to go in and kill them. Thank you for your attention to this matter!" he posted on Truth Social.
Asked at a press gathering whether he meant that U.S. troops could be involved, Trump said, "It's not gonna be us. We won't have to. There are people very close, very nearby that will go in. They'll do the trick very easily but under our auspices."

I really don't think Hamas want peace at all.

....not until they have achieved their aim to be part of the greater Caliphate, sadly.

Ihatetomatoes · 17/10/2025 16:07

The biggest threat to peace is if Hamas continue to execute Palestinians in the street. It will mean that 'someone' will have to go in and kill them (Hamas). Just what Israel was trying to do!

President Donald Trump issued a clear warning about the violence on Thursday.
"If Hamas continues to kill people in Gaza, which was not the Deal, we will have no choice but to go in and kill them. Thank you for your attention to this matter!" he posted on Truth Social.
Asked at a press gathering whether he meant that U.S. troops could be involved, Trump said, "It's not gonna be us. We won't have to. There are people very close, very nearby that will go in. They'll do the trick very easily but under our auspices."

I really don't think Hamas want peace at all.

Gloriia · 17/10/2025 16:06

'To liken the Keffiyeh to Hamas attire would be like me likening the Israeli flag to the swastika - deeply insulting, prejudicial and highly offensive'

The student from Oxford was wearing one whilst shrieking his offensive hate speech and incitement to violence. Like it or not is now associated with those spouting hate speech.

You even mentioning the swastika on this thread is highly offensive.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 17/10/2025 16:00

KoalaKoKo · 17/10/2025 15:24

Actually that is inaccurate, the keffiyeh has been worn in different arab countries for about 5,000 years, it is thought to originate from Iraq but has been worn across the region. Up until the 1920’s it was primarily worn by bedouin men in Palestine but has since been worn by people of all genders. In the 30’s John Baggot Glubb had the Palestinian members of the Arab Legion's Desert Patrol wear the black & white patterned keffiyeh to distinguish them from other soldiers. So the specific colour of the keffiyeh associated with Palestine is less than a hundred years old (but in saying that, older than Israel), but the Keffiyeh itself has been in the region for thousands of years.

To liken the Keffiyeh to Hamas attire would be like me likening the Israeli flag to the swastika - deeply insulting, prejudicial and highly offensive.

Actually there’s quite a lot of things in common with the Fylfot cross and Star of David in their adoption by spiritual groups and alchemists The fact the Flyfot cross was adopted by some genocidal maniacs called the Nazis in complete contrast to its origins probably also means it’s got quite a lot in common with the keffiyah

Mildorado · 17/10/2025 15:30

Nothing wrong with wearing a keffiyeh. I've seen it on lots of Israelis (I think about 20% of Israelis are Arab?). Plus you can buy things it that fabric in Israel . I had a nice abaya type robe from Tel Aviv.
I think covering your face in one at these marches is a bit bad though, but obviously some participants must be embarrassed or ashamed.

KoalaKoKo · 17/10/2025 15:24

1dayatatime · 17/10/2025 11:55

That's not factually accurate though is it? The keffiyeh or shemagh as I have always known it, was traditionally originated from Bedouin culture.

A black and white version was only invented and adopted by Palestinians in the late 1960s after Yasser Arafat started wearing one. So if anything it's a cultural appropriation of Bedouin culture.

Actually that is inaccurate, the keffiyeh has been worn in different arab countries for about 5,000 years, it is thought to originate from Iraq but has been worn across the region. Up until the 1920’s it was primarily worn by bedouin men in Palestine but has since been worn by people of all genders. In the 30’s John Baggot Glubb had the Palestinian members of the Arab Legion's Desert Patrol wear the black & white patterned keffiyeh to distinguish them from other soldiers. So the specific colour of the keffiyeh associated with Palestine is less than a hundred years old (but in saying that, older than Israel), but the Keffiyeh itself has been in the region for thousands of years.

To liken the Keffiyeh to Hamas attire would be like me likening the Israeli flag to the swastika - deeply insulting, prejudicial and highly offensive.

1dayatatime · 17/10/2025 11:55

KoalaKoKo · 17/10/2025 10:24

That is pretty insulting, the keffiyeh is part of Palestinian history and culture and should not be equated with a terrorist organisations attire. Frankly that is hate speech. My mum has a keffiyeh, gifted to her by her Palestinian hosts after she stayed in Palestine for a month.

That's not factually accurate though is it? The keffiyeh or shemagh as I have always known it, was traditionally originated from Bedouin culture.

A black and white version was only invented and adopted by Palestinians in the late 1960s after Yasser Arafat started wearing one. So if anything it's a cultural appropriation of Bedouin culture.

1dayatatime · 17/10/2025 11:47

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/10/2025 10:54

I doubt it will quieten the crowd.
If anything the heavy handed approach is making it worse.
The threat of arresting people for protesting encouraged bigger protests.

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Great the more anti Semitic far left thugs inciting violence that are arrested the better. Let's be honest with those views he was never going to be a useful contributor to society, in fact with his violent incitement, UK society is a better place without him in it.

RaisedByRobots · 17/10/2025 11:42

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/10/2025 10:54

I doubt it will quieten the crowd.
If anything the heavy handed approach is making it worse.
The threat of arresting people for protesting encouraged bigger protests.

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He wasnt arrested for protesting though.

Bigpinksweater · 17/10/2025 11:08

HellsBalls · 17/10/2025 11:07

Similar to the Cross of St George then.

No, that’s our national flag. Anyone can fly it, doesn’t indicate anything in particular unless you let it.

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