Why would would you still have pro Palestinian marches apart from now instilling more fear into the Jewish community

Effective action, if peace is really the aim, is educating oneself about the history of the conflict and being in the ear of one’s MP with constructive demands.

I would concur and think this is a laudable aim. However. I'm sure that you'll agree that on many of these marches, some of the chants and placards do not appear to be on the side of peace, and concern many.
I really hope that this aspect can now be pushed back.

I suspect because a ceasefire was the first step. Palestinians have lived under oppression for a long time and protests will probably now centre more around Palestinian rights e.g the ability to live freely, work freely, own property etc etc.

"If you don’t want protests and you don’t want uprisings or resistance give people the rights that you yourself enjoy, stop expanding settlements, and make sure that they have nothing to rise up against."

No one in the UK is 'expanding settlements'. The ridiculousness of singing ditties, or worse encouraging direct action with that awful 'globalise the intifada' thinking it will stop settlements. That's for Israel and the PA in the West Bank to sort out and the larger peace deal to discuss. The chaos and hatred towards Jewish people with those awful chants, signs, direct action encouragement shouldn't continue. If it does, it feels the motive isn't about the conflict ending and a peace deal but just plain hatred. More and more people are speaking out against the 'marchers' causing chaos week in week out and wasting police resources which could be better used to improve our own country including badly needed funding for other things.

They’ve been killing Palestinians for decades. Hamas needed to go. Israel also needs to change in order for Palestinians to enjoy actual peace.

I think it important to remember that the issues many ‘Pro Palestinians’ have with Israel go back way before this wave of conflict and the atrocities on 7/10. It is so much more than the violence of the last three years: the dynamic between Israel and Gaza/WB (which is where Palestinian people live so both relevant) has been an issue for decades. To believe that all that was needed was an end to the bombing/fighting totally ignores the actual issues with Gaza/WB and Israel and the conditions which meant Hamas could gain power and support.

Personally, I think the Palestinian cause should be kept in the spotlight until many more of the conditions for peace are met. It is such early days, there are still people in desperate need of help, Gaza’s medical infrastructure has been flattened, its children have been traumatised, the risk of radicalisation is huge amongst the general population who have lost everything. Not having bombs dropped on you is obviously a good thing (even if the people who did it are all smiling and celebrating a few miles away), but the people of Gaza and West Bank should be treated as equal to the rest of us. Serious work/investment is needed if we don’t want this all to happen again in 2/5/10 years time. Hamas didn’t appear in a vacuum and if you want to believe that Israel played no part in their ‘success’, you have decided to rewrite history to fit your agenda.

If this post is frustrating to you, it may be worth remembering that going back to the set up pre-7/10 is not a win for Israel. Why on earth would we want to replicate the conditions that lead to that atrocity? Hamas are still a threat to innocent Israelis and much work needs to be done to break the cycle of radicalisation. I’m not even sure how successful it can be with BN and his right wing buddies in office, but that’s a separate point.

The pressure needs to be kept on Israel so that both sides ‘win’ long term from this ‘peace’ (the two sides now being Palestinian civilians and israel). Hamas needed to go but the Palestinian people also need to be treated way better if the aim is to protect Israel citizens. Once Palestinians have access to proper homes, hospitals and education and live autonomous lives under their own government, then we can debate why people are still marching. And, of course, when the state funded terrorism in the WB ends too.

So, as I said, if you are questioning why the marches are still happening, you need to go and look at the situation in Gaza/WB pre-7/10 and why for many people, stopping the bombing is just step one to actual real peace for Palestinians.

For a two state solution, Palestine is not “free” until they officially have their own sovereign state, free from Israeli control, interference, and threat.
Many people here care about the Palestinian population and want to see all of the above, and they know that none of that will automatically happen. It’s important to keep the pressure up.

Are you actually serious? We should be "joyful"? Joyful about what, exactly?

Tone-deaf came to mind when I read this thread, honestly.

Hamas are now killing Palestinians…

Are Israeli troops still in Palestine?
are Israelis still occupying Palestine homes?

when Isreal gets out of Palestine completely and stops killing Palestinians then I will shut up

It's certainly given a very good argument for governments to restrict freedom of association, freedom of expression and face covering in public spaces, even within the framework of human rights legislation. Useful idiots indeed, and they might wonder who has been playing them to achieve such a spectacular own goal.

What happens next should be as eye opening as watching the UK government finding ways to invalidate a referendum it organised but didn't like the result of.

There never was a famine...it's utter nonsense...I have no doubt some were going hungry and there were shortages and those who were very vulnerable with other illnesses were affected..but actual famine...please! Where are the photos/videos of actual starving adults?

• There is still a land and sea blockade in Gaza.
• There are also no guarantees that Israel won’t return to bombing Gaza again. There are no ramifications if Netanyahu breaks the ceasefire as he has done before.
• The Israeli army are still oppressing people in the West Bank, raiding houses, threatening people etc…
• They are still supporting settlers there who are attacking Palestinians, destroying olive groves and houses.
• They are still demolishing Palestinian houses and building new settlements on recently stolen land.
• Palestinians are still dying, still being oppressed and still do not have human rights.

This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with human rights. People in Ireland didn’t hate Britain because they were protestant - they hated them because they stole their land, murdered families, deported people by force. People didn’t hate Osama Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein because they were muslim - it was the murder, oppression and human rights violation bit that made people hate them. People didn’t protest the Iraq war because of religion, they came out enmasse because people were dying and our governments were causing that. During the Iraq war I tried to get a taxi in Tunis - we had five taxis who drove out of the rank and refused to take us because they thought we were British so we had to walk, we had a shop assistant tell us to leave and a lot of hostile encounters. In Paris we had a waiter demand to know if we were British or American and then relax once I said Irish (my partner stayed quiet). They didn’t do this because they thought we were protestant or catholic, they did this because the US and UK were bombing Iraq. The marches aren’t against jewish people, they are for human rights and for Palestinians having the right to self determination.

Most of us have lived long enough to have seen several bombing campaigns in Gaza where Israel say they are leaving but continue to control borders, drop the occasional bomb, shoot a few random kids or farmers and then after a few months or a few years bomb the crap out of Gaza again. It is an eternal loop. Every few years you turn on the news in the safety of your own house and see another bombing - a few thousand Gazans dead, kids shot on a beach. You have Israeli leaders who say things about having to “mow the lawn” occasionally. Pre October 7th there was not a genocide but there was oppression, displacement, murder and always the lingering threat of more.

If you don’t want protests and you don’t want uprisings or resistance give people the rights that you yourself enjoy, stop expanding settlements, and make sure that they have nothing to rise up against.

I would imagine now that the government will move to ban the marches.

Yes, I agree. It troubles me that there are so many radicalised people, and how many appear to be quite open.
Germany is right to clamp down on fascism, and I hope the rest of Europe follows suit.

I know - I remember seeing the heart-breaking images coming out of Ethiopia.

The media didn't use photos of children with pre existing medical conditions then.

Good for them. They probably realise that Europe's biggest threat is from its own citizens who have been radicalised and people who now live in Europe who promote globalise the intifada and terrorism here. The counter terrorist watchlist is huge. The growth in radical Islamists in Europe and the world is not something any sane person should support.

Sorry if you can't read the above article, but Germany has removed citizenship from this man who has explicitly supported Hamas. He posted an Instagram picture, and called them "heroes".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/10/12/germany-strips-citizenship-palestinian-celebrated-hamas/
Interesting.

Germany is cracking down on supporters of Hamas.

I don't doubt that there have been countless victims in this terrible war, the death and destruction has been horrific and anyone with any humanity is repulsed.
However, I feel that these have not really been "anti war" protests, as such.

I do find it very troubling, and I'm a Lefty who's been on lots of demos! These have become problematic. As you say, the chanting and some of the placards are less about peace than you'd think. I wish that they'd been clamped down more in the early days.
Some people are behaving with impunity now.
On the very day of an attack on a synagogue, in the same city, there was a pro-Pal protest, with some hiding their faces in keffiyehs. Not acceptable.

The famine ended pretty quickly. When you see pictures of the famine in many countries it's awful. There were cries of mass starvation for over a year but apart from sad images of children with medical conditions it was thankfully untrue.

Maybe they will amend the chants to 'Hamas go' or perhaps they keep.on with the Jewish hate with 'Globalise the intifada' and other such jolly ditties. They are either anti semitic or just plain dumb idiots or perhaps they have nothing else to do but worship a cult.

I agree there is a palpable sense of bitterness from many that support the Palestinian cause which was unexpected by me.

Did they want the war to go on longer? Possibly some are upset that they can't call it a famine anymore since aid can flood in now we have a ceasefire and also we can all see with our own eyes that the thousands of Gazans we see on our screens thankfully look a healthy weight.

And can they keep insisting it's a genocide now we have evidence that Netanyahu didn't choose to prolong the war indefinitely or to push Gazans into concentration-like camps or to expel them from Gaza.