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Why would would you still have pro Palestinian marches apart from now instilling more fear into the Jewish community

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mids2019 · 14/10/2025 04:21

Now we have what looks like a peace to be celebrated why are people still going to march for Palestine? The genocide has stopped in their opinion so shouldn't they be at least joyful or if that is not the case what do they really want? Do they want to keep marching until the Israeli state is no more?

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Gloriia · 14/10/2025 10:09

KoalaKoKo · 14/10/2025 09:48

Hamas are evil. Some of those being executed are also evil. Many are militants armed by Israel who stole aid and opened fire on Palestinians. These people are seen as collaborators who profiteered and were complicit in genocide. I have no doubt they have executed innocent people too as they have not being tried or had a chance to prove they are innocent of whatever they are accused of. This happens after every war - they always punish people who are seen to collaborate - it happened after WW2 - it was wrong then and is wrong now.

I am anti capital punishment but I just wanted to clarify that it is not random civilians that are being executed.

Says who, hamas? You must stop believing everything they say. 'Collaborators' well they would say they wouldn't they.

They are murderers so they murder people.

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 10:09

LeanToWhatToDo · 14/10/2025 10:08

Yet you still check up on her.
You're a fan babe.

What?

LeanToWhatToDo · 14/10/2025 10:08

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 10:06

Ugh I was about to say she would be an ex friend if any of mine behaved like that. But then realised that you described her as an ex… she might be starting an AIBU in a few weeks wondering why her good friend ghosted her out of the blue 😜

Yet you still check up on her.
You're a fan babe.

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 10:08

Instructions · 14/10/2025 10:01

Hard, really, to feel very celebratory about thousands of hungry people digging through rubble to find the dead bodies of their families and friends

Insane to think that to still care about the people whose families have been burned and starved ed and bombed to death and whose homes and all infrastructure around them have been destroyed should be interpreted as a wish to cause Jewish people fear

Well the Palestinians are celebrating in Gaza so it’s a bit strange if people can’t share their joy the war is over.

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 10:06

CrocsNotDocs · 14/10/2025 09:59

My ex-friend has been quiet on her Facebook page for a week. She was posting daily ill-informed nonsense, some so ludicrous and from sources so ridiculous that only a moron would believe it. A lot of antisemitism dressed up as anti-Zionism.

She today has pivoted to anti-capitalism nonsense, but naturally with strong hints about Jews controlling governments and finance.

Ugh I was about to say she would be an ex friend if any of mine behaved like that. But then realised that you described her as an ex… she might be starting an AIBU in a few weeks wondering why her good friend ghosted her out of the blue 😜

LeanToWhatToDo · 14/10/2025 10:03

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 09:27

This. The deluded 'marchers' dont appear to do facts.

So why are there so many posts from you lot worrying about them then?
Many hundreds have been arrested for opposing genocide. They don't trust Israel and Trump - neither of whom have a great track record.
Not an amazing surprise to anyone.

Instructions · 14/10/2025 10:01

Hard, really, to feel very celebratory about thousands of hungry people digging through rubble to find the dead bodies of their families and friends

Insane to think that to still care about the people whose families have been burned and starved ed and bombed to death and whose homes and all infrastructure around them have been destroyed should be interpreted as a wish to cause Jewish people fear

PinkBobby · 14/10/2025 10:00

CrocsNotDocs · 14/10/2025 09:59

My ex-friend has been quiet on her Facebook page for a week. She was posting daily ill-informed nonsense, some so ludicrous and from sources so ridiculous that only a moron would believe it. A lot of antisemitism dressed up as anti-Zionism.

She today has pivoted to anti-capitalism nonsense, but naturally with strong hints about Jews controlling governments and finance.

Sadly antisemitism will all be at play here, just as Islamophobia/muslim hatred is too. The best we can do is call people out when their views are clearly led by racism.

CrocsNotDocs · 14/10/2025 09:59

My ex-friend has been quiet on her Facebook page for a week. She was posting daily ill-informed nonsense, some so ludicrous and from sources so ridiculous that only a moron would believe it. A lot of antisemitism dressed up as anti-Zionism.

She today has pivoted to anti-capitalism nonsense, but naturally with strong hints about Jews controlling governments and finance.

PinkBobby · 14/10/2025 09:58

Gloriia · 14/10/2025 09:40

It's appalling isn't it. I'm sure the activist doctors and the UN will be reporting on this imminently.

What is your point? Hamas have ALWAYS killed innocent Palestinians - they are a terrorist group and not known for their tolerance of opposition views. Hence why people are pro-Palestinians and not pro Hamas.

SumUp · 14/10/2025 09:55

HellsBalls · 14/10/2025 09:21

As we saw yesterday, the UK has zero influence on what happens in Gaza.
Zero.

This isn’t right. The UK has some influence, but our power in the global stage has declined.

The US seem to have been the main brokers of the deal, but you can bet that the deal has been negotiated to the benefit of the US. They always come with strings attached. It is likely that US firms will have priority access to contracts for the rebuilding effort, and Gaza is strategically important to the US due to its location.

The UK Foreign Office supports experts and trained negotiators that are so critical in these situations. Any peace negotiations are dependent on investment in people and systems, from all the countries involved. If we aren’t prioritising this, our influence is diminished.

And yet the Foreign Office has had its budget cut recently. See

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/78/foreign-affairs-committee/news/207445/foreign-affairs-committee-chair-foreign-office-budget-stretched-thin-and-cuts-alarming/

That is something that your MP CAN influence that would have and would continue to make a difference.

Mehmeh22 · 14/10/2025 09:51

While yesterday was promising, the war is not over and its nieve to think that.

Israel have given back a wasteland to the Gazian people. The trauma doesnt just disappear. Many more Palestinians will die because there is barely any infrastructure to support them.

KoalaKoKo · 14/10/2025 09:48

SpudsAndCarrots · 14/10/2025 09:39

Palestinians are being lined up on their knees and shot execution style by hamas.
They're more in need of help than ever before, but given the peace deal they're likely to be left undefended.

Hamas are evil. Some of those being executed are also evil. Many are militants armed by Israel who stole aid and opened fire on Palestinians. These people are seen as collaborators who profiteered and were complicit in genocide. I have no doubt they have executed innocent people too as they have not being tried or had a chance to prove they are innocent of whatever they are accused of. This happens after every war - they always punish people who are seen to collaborate - it happened after WW2 - it was wrong then and is wrong now.

I am anti capital punishment but I just wanted to clarify that it is not random civilians that are being executed.

Gloriia · 14/10/2025 09:40

StewkeyBlue · 14/10/2025 09:03

Hamas are now killing Palestinians…

It's appalling isn't it. I'm sure the activist doctors and the UN will be reporting on this imminently.

HellsBalls · 14/10/2025 09:40

SomeoneSomewheree · 14/10/2025 09:32

What are you talking about? Why do you talk about things you don't know about? It's embarrassing. The UK have been very involved in the current ceasefire negotiations. Why do you think they were publicly thanked?

Well, we have got Tony Blair.

SpudsAndCarrots · 14/10/2025 09:39

Palestinians are being lined up on their knees and shot execution style by hamas.
They're more in need of help than ever before, but given the peace deal they're likely to be left undefended.

KoalaKoKo · 14/10/2025 09:36

HellsBalls · 14/10/2025 09:21

As we saw yesterday, the UK has zero influence on what happens in Gaza.
Zero.

It actually really does! EU sanctions, banning goods from settlements and the increasing number of countries recognising a Palestinian state is what forced Netanyahu to agree to a ceasefire.

Without public pressure and news coverage they never would have let food trucks back into Gaza and they never would have stopped bombing. Several leaders in Israel have said they wanted to raze Gaza and displace the citizens - just look at the quotes on the front cover of The National!

Why would would you still have pro Palestinian marches apart from now instilling more fear into the Jewish community
SomeoneSomewheree · 14/10/2025 09:34

Witkoff took to X on Monday, ahead of meeting President Donald Trump in Israel, to praise the UK.

"I would like to acknowledge the vital role of the United Kingdom in assisting and coordinating efforts that have led us to this historic day in Israel," Witkoff wrote.
"In particular, I want to recognise the incredible input and tireless efforts of National Security Advisor Jonathan Powell."

SomeoneSomewheree · 14/10/2025 09:32

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 09:27

This. The deluded 'marchers' dont appear to do facts.

Because it's not a fact so in this case the marchers are not 'deluded'

SomeoneSomewheree · 14/10/2025 09:32

HellsBalls · 14/10/2025 09:21

As we saw yesterday, the UK has zero influence on what happens in Gaza.
Zero.

What are you talking about? Why do you talk about things you don't know about? It's embarrassing. The UK have been very involved in the current ceasefire negotiations. Why do you think they were publicly thanked?

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 09:30

March, protest, whatever is within the law and the bounds of decency. Stop with "the river to the sea" and "globalise the intifada". That's not part of a peaceful solution.
Also, stop covering your faces. If you don't want to be seen, don't protest publicly.
No-one wants to stop free speech, but there are limits.

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 09:27

HellsBalls · 14/10/2025 09:21

As we saw yesterday, the UK has zero influence on what happens in Gaza.
Zero.

This. The deluded 'marchers' dont appear to do facts.

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 09:22

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 09:18

I would concur and think this is a laudable aim. However. I'm sure that you'll agree that on many of these marches, some of the chants and placards do not appear to be on the side of peace, and concern many.
I really hope that this aspect can now be pushed back.

I really wish they'd sort the signs and chants in their 'aims' of greater peace, separate states etc. Having had a shouting women thrust a leaflet in my face about Palestinian problems whilst ignoring the starving and hungry in London, her telling me I should join them felt like a cult or club. The money spent policing these marchers week in week out is astronomical now. Better spent elsewhere.

HellsBalls · 14/10/2025 09:21

SumUp · 14/10/2025 09:18

Effective action, if peace is really the aim, is educating oneself about the history of the conflict and being in the ear of one’s MP with constructive demands.

As we saw yesterday, the UK has zero influence on what happens in Gaza.
Zero.

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 09:21

SumUp · 14/10/2025 09:18

Effective action, if peace is really the aim, is educating oneself about the history of the conflict and being in the ear of one’s MP with constructive demands.

Yes, I think that's a fair point. I've been reading up to inform myself, and it's an incredibly complex situation. Just reading about the peace deal indicated how multi layered and difficult it all is.