Why would would you still have pro Palestinian marches apart from now instilling more fear into the Jewish community

• There is still a land and sea blockade in Gaza.
• There are also no guarantees that Israel won’t return to bombing Gaza again. There are no ramifications if Netanyahu breaks the ceasefire as he has done before.
• The Israeli army are still oppressing people in the West Bank, raiding houses, threatening people etc…
• They are still supporting settlers there who are attacking Palestinians, destroying olive groves and houses.
• They are still demolishing Palestinian houses and building new settlements on recently stolen land.
• Palestinians are still dying, still being oppressed and still do not have human rights.

This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with human rights. People in Ireland didn’t hate Britain because they were protestant - they hated them because they stole their land, murdered families, deported people by force. People didn’t hate Osama Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein because they were muslim - it was the murder, oppression and human rights violation bit that made people hate them. People didn’t protest the Iraq war because of religion, they came out enmasse because people were dying and our governments were causing that. During the Iraq war I tried to get a taxi in Tunis - we had five taxis who drove out of the rank and refused to take us because they thought we were British so we had to walk, we had a shop assistant tell us to leave and a lot of hostile encounters. In Paris we had a waiter demand to know if we were British or American and then relax once I said Irish (my partner stayed quiet). They didn’t do this because they thought we were protestant or catholic, they did this because the US and UK were bombing Iraq. The marches aren’t against jewish people, they are for human rights and for Palestinians having the right to self determination.

Most of us have lived long enough to have seen several bombing campaigns in Gaza where Israel say they are leaving but continue to control borders, drop the occasional bomb, shoot a few random kids or farmers and then after a few months or a few years bomb the crap out of Gaza again. It is an eternal loop. Every few years you turn on the news in the safety of your own house and see another bombing - a few thousand Gazans dead, kids shot on a beach. You have Israeli leaders who say things about having to “mow the lawn” occasionally. Pre October 7th there was not a genocide but there was oppression, displacement, murder and always the lingering threat of more.

If you don’t want protests and you don’t want uprisings or resistance give people the rights that you yourself enjoy, stop expanding settlements, and make sure that they have nothing to rise up against.

Why is it sick? Surely you would expect the photos and videos to match up with the ‘facts’ people keep trying to tell you? I have read the threads and nobody has given me an adequate answer. I genuinely, honestly want to know.

It's all very well piously saying 'well they should be arrested', but it's clear that they aren't being arrested and these things keep happening and Jews and other concerned parties keep being told that there's nothing to worry about and it's all actually about peace and love.

Someone on another thread the other day literally tried to tell me that 'Death to the IDF' isn't actually calling for death.

People rightly do not want calls for death or support for terrorists on the streets of our country and yet these things keep happening. It is not fair on the rest of the country to keep pretending that it's not a problem and prattling on about how there should be arrests.

It needs to be sorted out. The organisers are clearly incapable (or more likely don't actually want to). The police are not bothering. So now what?

The subject has been discussed at length on these CEM threads if you’re following them you will have read

Here’s one called
‘what was the purpose of this level of destruction ‘. There’s some info on there but of course many others

You request for images is sick and you’re acceptance or denial irrelevant

Honestly if somebody can show me 1 recent video from a reputable source showing very thin looking Gazans I will accept it.

I have never said there aren’t some horrible people on some of the demonstrations and consistently said they should be arrested including on this thread if you RTT

Im sure we could find evidence on all types of demos many of which are scary.

Meanwhile I’m still waiting
for the proof from that Manchester demo from the pp

So are you denying the fact that children without pre-existing medical conditions have starved to death because of the blockade?

Any comment on the clips I posted from the marches/speeches?

Why do you keep peddling the starvation story? Have you seen all footage of the gazans, none have been emaciated. Children with chronic medical conditions will of course sadly have had challenges but many were medivac'd out for treatment in other countries, Israel infact facilitated this in some cases.

Aren't you furious that hamas didn't protect their own people, are you horrified that they are now running wild murdering civilians now the IDF aren't close enough to be a deterrent/stop them?

Depends on the source & who you believe:

The Israel Defence Forces confirmed its soldiers shot dead “suspects” in the Shejaiya neighbourhood of Gaza City.

Palestinian Civil Defence told the BBC that seven people were killed by Israeli forces in two separate incidents - in eastern Gaza and to the east of Khan Younis.

The Israeli military says it fired after people crossed the yellow line, where its troops have withdrawn to under Donald Trump's ceasefire plan.

www.standard.co.uk/news/world/idf-gunfire-violation-gaza-ceasefire-b1252819.html

Oh did you get through all 78 pages in those 3 mins you clicked on the page. Far too many have starved to death. Stop spreading misinformation that only children/babies with pre-existing conditions have died from malnutrition/starvation.

You could choose not to join marches that intimidate a minority.

Reasonable societies control incitement and intimidation and its not authoritarian to do so. Noone has the right not to be offended but again you can choose not to participate in offensive and intimidatory behaviour.

The marchers are showing a shocking lack of empathy and their defiance in asserting their rights, to no tangible purpose other than to intimidate, is disturbing and inflaming community tension.

Absolutely

That does not mean we should be forced into some sort of Authoritarian regime that shuts down our right to demonstrate and our right to free speech

Any demonstrators that incite violence against others should be arrested and charged. That’s the law

Those who are acting within the law have rights

Decent people have empathy for Jewish people feeling intimidated by what is going on at some of the demonstrations too.

They don't have much of a voice as such a minority group in the UK but are still important to listen to.

just to clarify
According to reports they did not cross the line.
They were approaching it when they were killed by the IDF

There is no requirement in the ceasefire to have the line and then another line within that.

Agree, back to the thread subject

Most seem to have been sadly killed in airstrikes, tragic loss of life. We can surely agree it is despicable how hamas <who are now busy shooting civilians> did not even try to protect their people. Despicable.

some of the babies and children who have died of starvation are listed here:

https://www.thedailyfile.org/forcibly-involved

IDF soldiers have killed people that crossed the yellow line they had retreated to as per the ceasefire agreement, and didn't respond to being told to move back.

Hamas have not handed the dead hostages back in close to the number they said they would.

Either thing could trigger the ceasefire ending ... let's hope it doesn't.

Let's stick to the subject of this thread. The other things can be debated elsewhere.