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Why would would you still have pro Palestinian marches apart from now instilling more fear into the Jewish community

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mids2019 · 14/10/2025 04:21

Now we have what looks like a peace to be celebrated why are people still going to march for Palestine? The genocide has stopped in their opinion so shouldn't they be at least joyful or if that is not the case what do they really want? Do they want to keep marching until the Israeli state is no more?

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Gloriia · 15/10/2025 09:04

'Israel has got it followers saying "don't believe a word hamas says'

The terrorists rounding civilians up and shooting them in the street? Yep sorry their reports on hardship is going to be questionable. I'm surprised they haven't tried to blame the recent murders on the IDF snipers.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 09:02

Gloriia · 15/10/2025 08:55

Pixelate their faces then. Allow them some privacy and dignity.
Would you want your sick children's images all over the internet?

These are real people not just things to back up your argument.

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That’s why they’re flagged as sensitive images.

The irony of repeatedly claiming that children in Gaza aren’t starving or dying- and then lecturing me about their dignity- is frankly absurd. Ignoring their deaths doesn’t respect them either.

Twiglets1 · 15/10/2025 09:00

JacknDiane · 15/10/2025 08:58

This suits the Israeli narrative. They didn't let any journalists into gaza to report what was actually happening. So the only people who could report was hamas...and lo and behold, Israel has got it followers saying "don't believe a word hamas says"....therefore discrediting any information coming out of gaza, UNLESS they supply it.

And their useful idiots supply plenty of it.

Do you seriously think people should believe what Hamas say?

JacknDiane · 15/10/2025 08:58

This suits the Israeli narrative. They didn't let any journalists into gaza to report what was actually happening. So the only people who could report was hamas...and lo and behold, Israel has got it followers saying "don't believe a word hamas says"....therefore discrediting any information coming out of gaza, UNLESS they supply it.

And their useful idiots supply plenty of it.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 08:58

Gloriia · 15/10/2025 08:40

'Targeting children specifically.Medical experts targetedHospitals, churches, schools and refugee centres not spared'

Hamas set up shop in churches, schools and hospitals. They knew exactly what they were doing putting people in harms way, civilians were told to evacuate by the IDF. That is highly unusual for anyone doing a genocide to warn folk in advance.

Children were not targeted nor were medical experts. Unless you're believing the activist drs with their 'someone told me' testimony.

What is happening now in gaza with terrorists murdering people in the streets whilst being filmed should give you an example of the depraved animals who have been feeding the western media with their tales for the last 2 yrs. Don't believe a word they say.

That’s simply not true. There is verified footage of children being targeted- for example, 13-year-old Alma Mufti.

You might want to check the UN, WHO, and Médecins Sans Frontières reports before dismissing ‘activist doctors’. These aren’t randoms- they’re international medical teams and verified hospital staff. The UN has documented repeated strikes on hospitals, ambulances, and medics. You don’t get 400+ health workers killed by coincidence.

Gloriia · 15/10/2025 08:55

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 08:54

I posted those in response to someone saying ‘Honestly if someone can show me 1 recent video from a reputable source showing very thin looking Gazans I will accept it.’

Of course they deserve dignity- that’s exactly why I shared them. Their deaths are being denied, mocked, and erased. The families and medics who documented these children did so precisely because they want the world to see what’s happening.

These children were denied the basic right of food and medical treatment.

Pixelate their faces then. Allow them some privacy and dignity.
Would you want your sick children's images all over the internet?

These are real people not just things to back up your argument.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 08:54

Gloriia · 15/10/2025 08:42

To post pictures of seriously ill children is so dehumanising. Shouldn't they be allowed some privacy, dignity and respect?

I posted those in response to someone saying ‘Honestly if someone can show me 1 recent video from a reputable source showing very thin looking Gazans I will accept it.’

Of course they deserve dignity- that’s exactly why I shared them. Their deaths are being denied, mocked, and erased. The families and medics who documented these children did so precisely because they want the world to see what’s happening.

These children were denied the basic right of food and medical treatment.

Gloriia · 15/10/2025 08:53

I think it should be a standard on forums that children's faces are pixelated. We wouldn't allow photos of our ill children to be posted globally. Everyone, even children, should be entitled to privacy and confidentiality particularly when vulnerable and suffering serious medical conditions.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 08:48

The Israeli embassy calling the UN’s famine data “fabricated”- because nothing says “credible source” like the party blocking the aid. Every major humanitarian body (WHO, UNRWA, UNICEF, OCHA, MSF) has reported starvation and child deaths. You can dispute the wording of “famine,” but not the fact that children are dying for lack of food.

Gloriia · 15/10/2025 08:42

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 08:22

Even in death these children are denied humanity.

To post pictures of seriously ill children is so dehumanising. Shouldn't they be allowed some privacy, dignity and respect?

Gloriia · 15/10/2025 08:40

'Targeting children specifically.Medical experts targetedHospitals, churches, schools and refugee centres not spared'

Hamas set up shop in churches, schools and hospitals. They knew exactly what they were doing putting people in harms way, civilians were told to evacuate by the IDF. That is highly unusual for anyone doing a genocide to warn folk in advance.

Children were not targeted nor were medical experts. Unless you're believing the activist drs with their 'someone told me' testimony.

What is happening now in gaza with terrorists murdering people in the streets whilst being filmed should give you an example of the depraved animals who have been feeding the western media with their tales for the last 2 yrs. Don't believe a word they say.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 08:22

Bigpinksweater · 14/10/2025 19:56

Honestly if somebody can show me 1 recent video from a reputable source showing very thin looking Gazans I will accept it.

Even in death these children are denied humanity.

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Gloriia · 15/10/2025 08:02

'Can we just call a spade a spade and act now to legislate against these marches?'

Starmer just seems so very incapable of acting. After the Southport 'riots' it was all so very heavy handed with an arrest everyone approach yet this hatred and incitement of violence for Jews on our streets they do fuck all.

That Oxford 'zios' prat should be arrested and sent to jail speedily. Set an example.

Gloriia · 15/10/2025 07:58

Interesting and it was what many said at the time.

These groups, the UN the ipc etc, I really hope are scrutinised further and their appalling shit stirring fake reports are pulled apart for all to see.

mids2019 · 15/10/2025 07:09

Look Israel exists and she will continue to exist. Let's face it the hate marchers do not even want a two state solution as none of their badly drawn signs call for this -they want Israel gone and Palestinians in a single Islamic state. This is not fundamentally about war that has ended but the right of Islrealis to have their home land and self determination.

there is so much bitterness rooted in anti sentism about the formation of the state of Israel in lands that the Arab feel is Muslim that it is palpable. October 7th was rooted in militant Islam and so are the actions of many Who support Hamas and the Palestinian state. Can we just call a spade a spade and act now to legislate against these marches?

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Timeforabitofpeace · 15/10/2025 06:18

Israelis are not black South Africans under apartheid 😂

EasyTouch · 15/10/2025 05:42

No, Apartheid, the real one did not come to an end due to weekly marches in London and people being sassy online.
Apartheid came to an end because South Africans, mostly Black , many White, many Jewish did the work, through intellectualism, sacrifice, guerilla tactics, exile, having a leader who was prepared to be seen as an anti hero on behalf of a husband who gained martyrdom and left her in the dust at his convenience, a genuine peacemaker in Desmond Tutu, a Prime Minister DeKlerk who knew that the jig was up, artistes and most importantly a Truth and Consequences ( I think that was the name) " tribunal" that despite the unequivocal unfairness that was Apartheid, for the Republic to go forward without backsliding into partisan ism.....everybody's deeds on all sides would have to be known.
"Bad guys" doing good shit, " good guys" doing bad shit. The end justifying the means. Violence for violence sake. Power moves for personal gain as opposed for " the cause". Treachery. Playing both sides.

The South Africans who were anti Apartheid overwhelmingly has that mission as a primary motive.

THAT is why Apartheid was dismantled.

The INTERNAL aim , although by various methods was not duplicitous.

International pressure was the cherry on the top of the cake that South African anti Apartheid activists mixed and baked themselves, for themselves.

Hence why they were able to achieve far more with far less than the Palestinians.

KoalaKoKo · 15/10/2025 00:56

The footage of the hostages released by Israel was shocking - many held for decades and many held without charge. Some were so emaciated they could not walk - really awful.

Imagine being locked up for years without charge or the right to a trial, beaten and starved. One man found out that his entire family was wiped out by an Israeli bomb just before he was released and just completely broke down. Really sad scenes.

BluntPlumHam · 14/10/2025 23:43

TicklishMauveSquid · 14/10/2025 23:17

If Francesca Albanese is involved with it, don’t bother looking. She’s not a lawyer anyway so probably not.

What you’ve accused Israel of in your post is blatantly unhinged propaganda so I won’t bother debating it.

I think it would be more accurate to say what the Palestinians did on Oct 7th to Israelis, and the citizens of other countries who just happened to be there, reached levels of depravity never seen before.

‘Blatantly unhinged propaganda’ ok and yet you’re here to justify genocide.

It wasn’t Albanese.

TicklishMauveSquid · 14/10/2025 23:17

BluntPlumHam · 14/10/2025 23:00

the extermination of the Palestinian people reached levels of depravity that have never been seen before.

Leaving babies to die in incubators.
Journalists targeted.
Educide, targeting intellectuals and the most brightest.
Targeting children specifically.
Medical experts targeted
Hospitals, churches, schools and refugee centres not spared
complete annihilation and flattening of an entire civilian population not seen before in modern history.

It’s also use of banned weapons such as white phosphorus but also bombs that cause amputation deliberately.

International human rights lawyers and orgs agree it does fit the existing definition of genocide but given how let’s say ‘creative’ they have been it can be argued that the definition could be graver.

I tried to find the link for the article written by international lawyers discussing this but it was a long time ago and can’t seem to find it.

If Francesca Albanese is involved with it, don’t bother looking. She’s not a lawyer anyway so probably not.

What you’ve accused Israel of in your post is blatantly unhinged propaganda so I won’t bother debating it.

I think it would be more accurate to say what the Palestinians did on Oct 7th to Israelis, and the citizens of other countries who just happened to be there, reached levels of depravity never seen before.

FreedomandPeace · 14/10/2025 23:13

BluntPlumHam · 14/10/2025 23:00

the extermination of the Palestinian people reached levels of depravity that have never been seen before.

Leaving babies to die in incubators.
Journalists targeted.
Educide, targeting intellectuals and the most brightest.
Targeting children specifically.
Medical experts targeted
Hospitals, churches, schools and refugee centres not spared
complete annihilation and flattening of an entire civilian population not seen before in modern history.

It’s also use of banned weapons such as white phosphorus but also bombs that cause amputation deliberately.

International human rights lawyers and orgs agree it does fit the existing definition of genocide but given how let’s say ‘creative’ they have been it can be argued that the definition could be graver.

I tried to find the link for the article written by international lawyers discussing this but it was a long time ago and can’t seem to find it.

What an incredibly shocking and sad rundown

Real reasons to demonstrate until Palestinians are guaranteed their freedom from Israel
Real reasons to demonstrate to ensure the world keeps watching and keeps supporting

TicklishMauveSquid · 14/10/2025 23:08

TicklishMauveSquid · 14/10/2025 22:42

That didn’t pan out though did it, and we’re all very glad about that aren’t we, because at least 2400 Gazans would have died from starvation in the two months since the ‘famine’ was declared, at the rate of 40 a day within a population of 2 million.

I wonder if the IPC will be updating its conclusion that a famine was taking place or tumbleweed…..

Just noticed a typo. The death rate for a Class 3 famine in a population of 2 million people would be 400 deaths a day, not 40 so 24,000 deaths over 2 months.

In Gaza City, with a population of 500,000, there would have been 100 deaths a day, so 6,000 over
2 months.

There has been 453 deaths reported that were attributed to ‘starvation’ in the whole of Gaza from the beginning of the war up to 30/09/2025 so just under 2 years.

We obviously don’t know if any of the 453 deaths were related to medical conditions, such as generic diseases like cystic fibrosis, or cancer, where malabsorption leading to malnutrition was a factor.

Kind of puts the ‘famine’ into perspective doesn’t it.

noblegiraffe · 14/10/2025 23:03

the extermination of the Palestinian people reached levels of depravity that have never been seen before.

It has been fucking awful, but that really doesn't seem to be true.

BluntPlumHam · 14/10/2025 23:00

TicklishMauveSquid · 14/10/2025 22:47

I think I came across you on another thread where you said the definition of genocide is being redefined so Israel can be accused of it.

Not sure if you responded as haven’t looked but can you explain why the legal definition needs to be looked at again.

Surely a genocide is a genocide and if it doesn’t fit the legal parameters it’s not a genocide?

Is there something worse than a genocide?

the extermination of the Palestinian people reached levels of depravity that have never been seen before.

Leaving babies to die in incubators.
Journalists targeted.
Educide, targeting intellectuals and the most brightest.
Targeting children specifically.
Medical experts targeted
Hospitals, churches, schools and refugee centres not spared
complete annihilation and flattening of an entire civilian population not seen before in modern history.

It’s also use of banned weapons such as white phosphorus but also bombs that cause amputation deliberately.

International human rights lawyers and orgs agree it does fit the existing definition of genocide but given how let’s say ‘creative’ they have been it can be argued that the definition could be graver.

I tried to find the link for the article written by international lawyers discussing this but it was a long time ago and can’t seem to find it.

TicklishMauveSquid · 14/10/2025 22:47

BluntPlumHam · 14/10/2025 21:39

How do you think apartheid in SA came to an end? Israel has done irreparable damage to itself during this horrendous genocide, the legal definition needs to be looked at again because they’ve commuted unthinkable crimes.

They were able to because they’re an occupying force and apartheid regime. They exposed all this in the last two years so people are no longer demanding a ceasefire they want an end to the occupation because otherwise what happened to Gaza can happen again.

I think I came across you on another thread where you said the definition of genocide is being redefined so Israel can be accused of it.

Not sure if you responded as haven’t looked but can you explain why the legal definition needs to be looked at again.

Surely a genocide is a genocide and if it doesn’t fit the legal parameters it’s not a genocide?

Is there something worse than a genocide?